Jamie Dimon says Trump 'wasn't wrong' about critical issues, warns Biden campaign on MAGA label

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Just now, Engorgeous George said:

Killed, not murdered.

 

Also, very different circumstances, they are hardly like enough to be discussed together.  In particular discussing Trayvon Martin in a discussion of policing is just plain wrong since it was not the police but a psycho neighborhood watcher who ended his life. 

The Martin and Brown instances were low handing fruit to the race hucksters, but those instances really lacked the needed elements to be some "proof" that AA's were somehow mistreated.  One would think there must be better instances to exploit out there......not sure why these were chosen.

And you take these instances, and reverse the pigment of the participants and no one cares......because racial exploiters cannot benefit from those. 

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31 minutes ago, RLLD said:

The Martin and Brown instances were low handing fruit to the race hucksters, but those instances really lacked the needed elements to be some "proof" that AA's were somehow mistreated.  One would think there must be better instances to exploit out there......not sure why these were chosen.

And you take these instances, and reverse the pigment of the participants and no one cares......because racial exploiters cannot benefit from those. 

Tim's take on the Brown case is in contradiction to the forensic evidence which showed Brown was approaching the officer.  That evidence was looked at by the local prosecutor, the state prosecutor and the feds who all would have benefitted politically from a prosecution and all three declined to prosecute in the face of the forensic evidence.  

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17 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

Signed Cuomo newsoulini whitmer

spare me dummy

It’s like they paid no attention. And think no one else did.  

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Just now, Engorgeous George said:

Tim's take on the Brown case is in contradiction to the forensic evidence which shouwed Brown was approaching the officer.  That evidence was looked at by the local prosecutor, the state prosecutor and the feds who all would have benefitted politically from a prosecution and all three declined to prosecute in the face of the forensic evidence.  

The evidence showed he did more that approach the officer. His dna was on the officer, and the officer had injuries. And the officers story was confirmed by eyewitnesses. Does. Anyone think the DOJ didn’t want to prosecute this? 

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59 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Mistakes were made.

In his zeal to appease his more militant elements within the party, he swung too hard.   His actions to upheave the policies that were effective only hurt him, well, it emboldened the more militant elements as well....and their radical marxist antics then went into play.

If you are going to follow good policies with anarchist marxism....its not really going to go well.

I wasn't so surprised it wasn't such a big deal with the liberal run media at the time, but the spite with which biden and his handlers unleashed on the Trump policies and their venomous attacks across the board on that man early and often in 2015 onward was something out of the dark ages. Then in 2020 Pelosi was like a witch in a fairy tale whispering in the king's ear telling him to sign the orders the second he takes over and start a full scale war on Trumps policies and all of his voters because now they had the power finally in the White House.

This is how the cult of anti- MAGA came about. It was a poisonous gas set upon the liberals in this country to burn hatred into their souls and cause them to attack at every turn. How can a group of people literally HATE the phrase Make America Great Again. Think about it. People who wore those hats were literally attacked and the hat was basically outlawed by organizations and schools and other gatherings as such.

What I was surprised at was the lack of support from the leadership of non political entities coming out and asking WTF is going on here? You just won the election in 2020, why are you destroying the good policies that make this country strong?

And the left calls MAGA a cult for some reason. When in fact, the people who supported Trump are more the defenders of what this country was set up to be. Pushed even further into being daily defenders of the constitution and the laws and language and the culture and the strength of this country, by the true cult called the liberal democratic party who wants no part of those things. 

 

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3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

The evidence showed he did more that approach the officer. His dna was on the officer, and the officer had injuries. And the officers story was confirmed by eyewitnesses. Does. Anyone think the DOJ didn’t want to prosecute this? 

As I recall (and it has been years so memory does fade) the dna was on the officer from the struggle in the car.  Brown got shot in the hand when he was reaching in.  Then Brown ran and when the officer got out of his car(SUV i believe) brown, at 6 feet 4 inches and 294 pounds turned and charged.  He was hit 5 or six more times.  The forensic evidence (blood splatter) showed Brown approaching the officer.  Other forensic evidence (shell casings) showed the officer retreating slightly.

 

Folks like Tim put a great deal of stock in the statement of the second perpetrator.  Here's the thing, perpetrators lie.  Forensic evidence, not so much.

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6 minutes ago, RLLD said:

The Martin and Brown instances were low handing fruit to the race hucksters, but those instances really lacked the needed elements to be some "proof" that AA's were somehow mistreated.  One would think there must be better instances to exploit out there......not sure why these were chosen.

And you take these instances, and reverse the pigment of the participants and no one cares......because racial exploiters cannot benefit from those. 

Because there aren't better instances; unarmed police killings are extremely rare.  I've posted this link before but:

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As of the June 22 update, the Washington Post’s database of fatal police shootings showed 14 unarmed Black victims and 25 unarmed white victims in 2019. The database does not include those killed by other means, like George Floyd.

The number of unarmed Black shooting victims is down 63% from 2015, when the database began. There are about 7,300 Black homicide victims a year. The 14 unarmed victims in fatal police shootings would comprise only 0.2% of that total.

Ideally, officers would never take anyone’s life in the course of their duties. But given the number of arrests they make each year (around 10 million) and the number of deadly-weapons attacks on officers (an average of 27 per day in just two-thirds of the nation’s police departments, according to a 2014 analysis), it is not clear that these 1,000 civilian shooting deaths suggest that law enforcement is out of control.

https://manhattan.institute/article/there-is-no-epidemic-of-fatal-police-shootings-against-unarmed-black-americans

It is an incredibly low number given the number of interactions, and went down during the Trump admin.  And given that those interactions are, in general, with the less savory members of our society.

You are twice as likely to die from being struck by lightning:

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In the United States in the period 2009 to 2018 an average of 27 lightning fatalities occurred per year. In the United States an average of 23 people died from lightning per year from 2012 to 2021.

Unfortunately for the Left (the party of science), this data does not fit their narrative.

Put another way, the reason they can "say their names" is because there are so few victims.

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8 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Because there aren't better instances; unarmed police killings are extremely rare.  I've posted this link before but:

https://manhattan.institute/article/there-is-no-epidemic-of-fatal-police-shootings-against-unarmed-black-americans

It is an incredibly low number given the number of interactions, and went down during the Trump admin.  And given that those interactions are, in general, with the less savory members of our society.

You are twice as likely to die from being struck by lightning:

Unfortunately for the Left (the party of science), this data does not fit their narrative.

Put another way, the reason they can "say their names" is because there are so few victims.

Correct. Statistically its irrelevant.  But if you reverse the ethnicity of the participants (and there are examples) no one makes a sound.....because that is what racism looks like....

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11 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Because there aren't better instances; unarmed police killings are extremely rare.  I've posted this link before but:

https://manhattan.institute/article/there-is-no-epidemic-of-fatal-police-shootings-against-unarmed-black-americans

It is an incredibly low number given the number of interactions, and went down during the Trump admin.  And given that those interactions are, in general, with the less savory members of our society.

You are twice as likely to die from being struck by lightning:

Unfortunately for the Left (the party of science), this data does not fit their narrative.

Put another way, the reason they can "say their names" is because there are so few victims.

It's a non topic as far as I am concerned. I've seen all those 2019 numbers and of the 14 shootings of unarmed black guys, it was determined through thorough investigations that 12 of the officers were in real danger while being attacked or had valid enough reason to suspect the black criminal had a gun and were considered legal kills. The 2 that were thought to have been bad kills both lost their jobs and spent time in prison after going through the justice system. 

And therefore the use of the word 'victims' should not be used to described those who were killed while attacking the police. They just lost the fight is all. 

I may be off on a couple numbers, but, like you are implying, this "problem" should be on the lowest end of a list of problems this country is facing. Actually, it shouldn't even be on the list because it shows a good example to the youth of America not to focking attack the police. 

 

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Man, nothing sets the righties off like suggesting black lives have value. They can’t focking stand it 

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GC: Trump is for the Working Man and sticking it to the donor class!   

Also GC: OMG look at the kind things that sweet man from JPMorgan Chase said about Donald!   

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2 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Man, nothing sets the righties off like suggesting black lives have value. They can’t focking stand it 

I see that you are allergic to data.  Good quality for a lawyer.   

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8 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Man, nothing sets the righties off like suggesting black lives have value. They can’t focking stand it 

I don't care what color they are. If they are violent good for nothing a-holes, I'm happy to see them die. 

You are the doosh that values black criminals doing criminal things to good people. 

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16 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Man, nothing sets the lefties off like suggesting all lives have value. They can’t focking stand it 

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50 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I see that you are allergic to data.  Good quality for a lawyer.   

Oh, is there data showing black live don’t have value? Sounds like something the Nazis would collect. At least it’s in keeping with your love for the Bell Curve

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14 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Oh, is there data showing black live don’t have value? Sounds like something the Nazis would collect. At least it’s in keeping with your love for the Bell Curve

There is no way you are any kind of a lawyer when you talk like that. 

You really are stupid. It's glaring. 

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1 hour ago, IGotWorms said:

Man, nothing sets the righties off like suggesting black lives have value. They can’t focking stand it 

Dude. I like you and mostly agree with you. But the above statement is bs.

Don't stoop to the level of telling other people what they think. Most righties (even most MAGAMOOKS) aren't racists. And Jerry is definitely one of the more level headed conservatives in the GC. Save your disdain for the truly ignorant, nasty bastards around here. There are plenty to choose from.

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1 hour ago, Fnord said:

truly ignorant, nasty bastards around here. There are plenty to choose from.

At least you are self aware. Now the hard part. Stop being an ignorant, nasty bastard. 

Something tells me you would fail if you even tried to be intelligent. 

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1 hour ago, seafoam1 said:

At least you are self aware. Now the hard part. Stop being an ignorant, nasty bastard. 

Something tells me you would fail if you even tried to be intelligent. 

Thing is, ya miserable mope, when one is actually intelligent they don't have to try. It's inherent. That's how we all know you have the IQ (and appeal) of a turnip sandwich. 

You were the primary poster I was thinking of when I wrote that, of course. The next time you say something insightful, witty, or relevant will be the first.

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17 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Thing is, ya miserable mope, when one is actually intelligent they don't have to try. It's inherent. That's how we all know you have the IQ (and appeal) of a turnip sandwich. 

You were the primary poster I was thinking of when I wrote that, of course. The next time you say something insightful, witty, or relevant will be the first.

It's very intelligent of you to be so sensitive. 

But at least you are sensitive about your shortcomings and know your limitations of which you have many. 

It's awesome how you copy paste this from pimpledoosh and other insecure online posters having said it over and over to many posters on this site for years on end. : 

"The next time you say something insightful, witty, or relevant will be the first."

You are mentally weak. And it shows peanut. You don't have a place in the world of intellects. 

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Darren Wilson, George Zimmerman and Derek Chauvin will end up being American hero’s. They may have to chisel a new mountain. 

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23 hours ago, HellToupee said:

This person seems very astute and might be on to something 

 

This girl agrees...

 

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Dimon is trying to help the democrats. He don’t GAF about MAGA. But he’s right about Biden and Harris and the rest of that freak show on the left constantly attacking regular people. This started under Obama and now they can’t help themselves. You would think they would learn after that type of rhetoric doing in Mitt Romney. But they have MSM  cover and they repeat the same. 

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6 hours ago, Fnord said:

Dude. I like you and mostly agree with you. But the above statement is bs.

Don't stoop to the level of telling other people what they think. Most righties (even most MAGAMOOKS) aren't racists. And Jerry is definitely one of the more level headed conservatives in the GC. Save your disdain for the truly ignorant, nasty bastards around here. There are plenty to choose from.

You probably haven’t seen Jerry opine on the inherent genetic inferiority of blacks

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2 hours ago, IGotWorms said:

You probably haven’t seen Jerry opine on the inherent genetic inferiority of blacks

WTF do you know about anything? You are an idiot. You were even called out by another liberal hack. 

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30 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

WTF do you know about anything? You are an idiot. You were even called out by another liberal hack. 

Yeah he’d regret that if I cared enough to dig up the posts

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5 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Yeah he’d regret that if I cared enough to dig up the posts

Oh no! Is mr. pretend lawyer guy going to get him? 

Oooh...scary.

You would be best off leaving him to continue showing off what an idiot he is all on his own. 

 

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15 hours ago, IGotWorms said:

You probably haven’t seen Jerry opine on the inherent genetic inferiority of blacks

 I have not.

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18 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Dimon is trying to help the democrats. He don’t GAF about MAGA. But he’s right about Biden and Harris and the rest of that freak show on the left constantly attacking regular people. This started under Obama and now they can’t help themselves. You would think they would learn after that type of rhetoric doing in Mitt Romney. But they have MSM  cover and they repeat the same. 

He is among a select few who see the writing on the wall and are trying to help the Democrats.

Here is the problem.....if you are a Democrat.....you cannot admit something you did is wrong....or failed....they do not have the capacity to do that....

They can only insist they are right, things are great, everything they think is moral and therefore perfect.....even when its clearly not....

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2 minutes ago, RLLD said:

He is among a select few who see the writing on the wall and are trying to help the Democrats.

Here is the problem.....if you are a Democrat.....you cannot admit something you did is wrong....or failed....they do not have the capacity to do that....

They can only insist they are right, things are great, everything they think is moral and therefore perfect.....even when its clearly not....

And it's gotten old. 

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3 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

And it's gotten old. 

Its like cancer.   It ultimately is self-defeating.   Which is why their only maneuver now is to pretend conservatives are evil....terrorists....and what ever else they can lob over the fence.  They cannot tout anything god about them, so they distract and redirect be selling fear and lies.

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Democrats went from “I feel your pain” to “you people are a threat “ with some more divisive rhetoric in between, in short order.  Obama was the one that made it ok.  And like good cultists, the rest of them followed their leader. 

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1 hour ago, RLLD said:

Here is the problem.....if you are a Democrat.....you cannot admit something you did is wrong....or failed....they do not have the capacity to do that....

They can only insist they are right, things are great, everything they think is moral and therefore perfect.....even when its clearly not....

 

54 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Its like cancer.   It ultimately is self-defeating.   Which is why their only maneuver now is to pretend conservatives are evil....terrorists....and what ever else they can lob over the fence.  They cannot tout anything god about them, so they distract and redirect be selling fear and lies.

 

52 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Democrats went from “I feel your pain” to “you people are a threat “ with some more divisive rhetoric in between, in short order.  Obama was the one that made it ok.  And like good cultists, the rest of them followed their leader. 

Where do you guys come up with this drivel?

Lemme set y'all straight on a couple things. I'm not a Democrat, but in this place I'm to the left of Marx, so I feel emboldened to speak for at least some Democrats. 

Broadly:

We don't hate you, we don't think you're evil, we don't think Democrats are perfect and Republicans are villains, we don't seek division, we're not all in lockstep with every stupid little peeve of the far left loonies and we don't blindly support Biden or the party at all costs.

We are united by our complete inability to understand how the righteous fock anyone with good morals or good sense (which the majority of Americans possess, at least to some degree) could allow themselves to support and vote for Donald Trump.

He is like the living embodiment of everything that is wrong with America. He's a walking, talking example of every single one of the seven deadly sins, but supported by the Christian right. He has zero leadership qualities, but his supporters are convinced he's the best POTUS ever. He has no empathy, morality, or ethics. He cares about nothing other than his own wealth, power, and aggrandizement. But he's somehow built the most fervent, dedicated following I've ever seen in American politics. He's so vile that we elected an ancient nincompoop with no new ideas or charisma instead. And that was BEFORE he got himself justifiably indicted several dozen times.

So here you are, ready to elect him again. And when asked to justify why you could possibly think that is a good idea, can't defend it without whataboutisms, deflection, and projection. 

 

 

[RLLD 4,231]

Just now, Fnord said:

 

 

Where do you guys come up with this drivel?

Lemme set y'all straight on a couple things. I'm not a Democrat, but in this place I'm to the left of Marx, so I feel emboldened to speak for at least some Democrats. 

Broadly:

We don't hate you, we don't think you're evil, we don't think Democrats are perfect and Republicans are villains, we don't seek division, we're not all in lockstep with every stupid little peeve of the far left loonies and we don't blindly support Biden or the party at all costs.

We are united by our complete inability to understand how the righteous fock anyone with good morals or good sense (which the majority of Americans possess, at least to some degree) could allow themselves to support and vote for Donald Trump.

He is like the living embodiment of everything that is wrong with America. He's a walking, talking example of every single one of the seven deadly sins, but supported by the Christian right. He has zero leadership qualities, but his supporters are convinced he's the best POTUS ever. He has no empathy, morality, or ethics. He cares about nothing other than his own wealth, power, and aggrandizement. But he's somehow built the most fervent, dedicated following I've ever seen in American politics. He's so vile that we elected an ancient nincompoop with no new ideas or charisma instead. And that was BEFORE he got himself justifiably indicted several dozen times.

So here you are, ready to elect him again. And when asked to justify why you could possibly think that is a good idea, can't defend it without whataboutisms, deflection, and projection. 

 

 

Thank you for your reply.

Trump is imperfect, and as a person I am not a fan.  But I do not need to like him, I just need his policies and leadership. He is precisely what we need. 

Now, if I can trust that either Desantis or Haley will implement the same approach, the same policies and lead the same way....then fine, i will go with them.

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1 hour ago, RLLD said:

Thank you for your reply.

Trump is imperfect, and as a person I am not a fan.  But I do not need to like him, I just need his policies and leadership. He is precisely what we need. 

Now, if I can trust that either Desantis or Haley will implement the same approach, the same policies and lead the same way....then fine, i will go with them.

What is it about his leadership that appeals to you?

[seafoam1 3,031]

1 minute ago, Fnord said:

What is it about his leadership that appeals to you?

Learn to read. 

[RLLD 4,231]

19 minutes ago, Fnord said:

What is it about his leadership that appeals to you?

I see him as being a disruptive force against the status quo and power-elites.  He is tough and direct, the latter being what people use to make false claims of racism and such. I love it that he fights for Americans, and American well-being over that of others. He leverages humor....which those who dislike him never fail to pretend to not see and then ultimately misuse.... He is unpredictable in the perfect way, the foreign leaders pause when dealing with him, I love that....

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Not quoting that long winded soliloquy.  I’ll just say we hate what you do.  Not as individuals, but because you empower the people that are intentionally wrecking the place.