Gender affirming care increases suicide?

[ROCK BOTTOM 58]

I thought it helped but this new study makes me question if gender affirming care is literally harmful.

[Fireballer 2,641]

There’s a bill in the NY state legislature to give tax breaks to patients who move there for GAC or doctors who move there to provide GAC.  

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,286]

Yep always has been the case.  It’s cause trannies think that’s the solution to their mental issues and when it doesn’t solve it they are more depressed and now can’t even have an orgasm the rest of their life 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,958]

5 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

Yep always has been the case.  It’s cause trannies think that’s the solution to their mental issues and when it doesn’t solve it they are more depressed and now can’t even have an orgasm the rest of their life 

Yep.  100%.  Almost as if being a tranny is a mental illness.

If only there were a bunch of people out there that were saying this to begin with.  Or had previously classified it as such. 

[TimHauck 2,662]

Lol you guys are idiots.  It’s possible the title of this thread is true, but that chart doesn’t come close to proving it.   That is a chart of ALL suicides, we’d need to know how many of those were from kids with gender dysphoria to even show a correlation.  Most likely those are an extremely small % of the total number

[squistion 2,039]

Another tweet from the anti-LGBTQ group "Gays Against Groomers" who despite their name, are comprised of few, if any, actual LGBT+ folks.

As TimHauck noted, the chart shown is misleading and doesn't prove what is claimed here.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,123]

Oh look, another brilliant idea from the left that does more harm than good. Leave the kids alone. 

[seafoam1 2,859]

Anyone born with an ounce of logic knew this shlt was all mental derangement and supremely harmful from the first time anyone even suggested this was a good idea. Only a liberal would put it into practice. It's self abuse and child abuse all rolled into one major class of abuse.

Oh and hey, for an encore, if a chinese fle pandemic hits, let's form a march to Chinatown and scream TRUMP ORANGE MAN BAD!!!  the whole way there and demand the border stays open. 

 

[Cdub100 3,868]

The way some people support this mental illness is mind-boggling. Men can't be women and vs versa.

People who get sex reassignment surgery are left mutilated monsters. They are lied to and pushed to get the surgery. Especially when they are young. There are so many stories about people who regretted getting mutilated later in life.

Hopefully the world will come to it senses some day.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,286]

10 minutes ago, squistion said:

Another tweet from the anti-LGBTQ group "Gays Against Groomers" who despite their name, are comprised of few, if any, actual LGBT+ folks.

As TimHauck noted, the chart shown is misleading and doesn't prove what is claimed here.

T doesn’t belong with LGB. The previous 3 are a sexual preference while the latter is a mental illness. And there are plenty of gays and lesbians that agree.  Hell my aunt still doesn’t understand why she has to be lumped with the gay dudes 

[seafoam1 2,859]

2 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

The way some people support this mental illness is mind-boggling. Men can't be women and vs versa.

People who get sex reassignment surgery are left mutilated monsters. They are lied to and pushed to get the surgery. Especially when they are young. There are so many stories about people who regretted getting mutilated later in life.

Hopefully the world will come to it senses some day.

After doctor's perform the surgeries on these nut jobs they prescribe them two razor blades and say "won't be seeing you in the morning".

It's criminal even the thoughts of this gender garbage are shared and supported. 

[seafoam1 2,859]

The president of the US buys whole heartedly into all of this.

[squistion 2,039]

Just now, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

T doesn’t belong with LGB. The previous 3 are a sexual preference while the latter is a mental illness. And there are plenty of gays and lesbians that agree.  Hell my aunt still doesn’t understand why she has to be lumped with the gay dudes 

Your aunt isn't lumped in with the gay dudes if she is a lesbian (Fun Fact: That is what the L in LGB represents).

And being gay or lesbian is not a sexual preference or a choice (living an LGBT lifestyle would be a choice, but sexual identity is not)

[seafoam1 2,859]

3 minutes ago, squistion said:

Your aunt isn't lumped in with the gay dudes if she is a lesbian (Fun Fact: That is what the L in LGB represents).

And being gay or lesbian is not a sexual preference or a choice (living an LGBT lifestyle would be a choice, but sexual identity is not)

It's sexual choice. Nothing to do with what you were born as. It's a label that identifies who you want to have sex with. 

[cyclone24 1,913]

1 hour ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Yep.  100%.  Almost as if being a tranny is a mental illness.

If only there were a bunch of people out there that were saying this to begin with.  Or had previously classified it as such. 

Iowa is putting forth a bill to call them disabled. 

[iam90sbaby 2,529]

45 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Lol you guys are idiots.  It’s possible the title of this thread is true, but that chart doesn’t come close to proving it.   That is a chart of ALL suicides, we’d need to know how many of those were from kids with gender dysphoria to even show a correlation.  Most likely those are an extremely small % of the total number

Found the groomer 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,958]

8 minutes ago, cyclone24 said:

Iowa is putting forth a bill to call them disabled. 

I don't know if that's a good idea either. By calling it mental illness, they can't claim victimhood status.

[squistion 2,039]

31 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

It's sexual choice. Nothing to do with what you were born as. It's a label that identifies who you want to have sex with. 

If you think that it is a choice, then please tell us when you made the choice to be heterosexual.

For a choice that important you should remember all the details, such as your age, plus the date, time, location when you made such an important choice. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,123]

Gay men have children with straight women. That’s the choice they made. Who you have sex with can absolutely be a choice. To say otherwise is ridiculous. 

[seafoam1 2,859]

7 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Gay men have children with straight women. That’s the choice they made. Who you have sex with can absolutely be a choice. To say otherwise is ridiculous. 

I have a gay brother who somehow has 2 kids and an ex-wife.  Squid is off his rocker. 

[TimHauck 2,662]

1 hour ago, squistion said:

Another tweet from the anti-LGBTQ group "Gays Against Groomers" who despite their name, are comprised of few, if any, actual LGBT+ folks.

As TimHauck noted, the chart shown is misleading and doesn't prove what is claimed here.

What’s even worse is the chart is broken down by 15-19, 20-24, and 25-34 (they actually cut off the 25-34 legend but doing a quick search it looks like that’s what it should be).

Both 20-24 and 25-34 show big increases, but 15-19 is roughly flat.  So if that’s actually when affirming care started, if there’s any possible conclusion to be drawn about trans youth here (probably not due to the low % it makes up), if anything this chart shows the opposite of what they’re claiming.

But as is typical of the GC, they go off their script without actually looking at the data…

[squistion 2,039]

42 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Gay men have children with straight women. That’s the choice they made. Who you have sex with can absolutely be a choice. To say otherwise is ridiculous. 

So you could choose to have sex with men right now if you wanted to? For most men who self-identify as heterosexual that would be difficult if not impossible.

[Raven Fan 362]

1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

Lol you guys are idiots.  It’s possible the title of this thread is true, but that chart doesn’t come close to proving it.   That is a chart of ALL suicides, we’d need to know how many of those were from kids with gender dysphoria to even show a correlation.  Most likely those are an extremely small % of the total number

LOLOLOL

Yet another lie from the alt right.  It's like they think we normal people are as gullible and as stupid as they are.

Shows a graph for all suicides and tries to imply that transitioned folks are killing themselves more than every.

Man the alt right are dumb AF.  Note how every alt righty who's posted here lapped it up hook, line, and sinker. 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,286]

1 hour ago, squistion said:

Your aunt isn't lumped in with the gay dudes if she is a lesbian (Fun Fact: That is what the L in LGB represents).

And being gay or lesbian is not a sexual preference or a choice (living an LGBT lifestyle would be a choice, but sexual identity is not)

Did I say choice dip sh1t. And yes she is expected to be part of the lgbt crap cause she’s a lesbian 

 

[squistion 2,039]

3 minutes ago, Raven Fan said:

LOLOLOL

Yet another lie from the alt right.  It's like they think we normal people are as gullible and as stupid as they are.

Shows a graph for all suicides and tries to imply that transitioned folks are killing themselves more than every.

Man the alt right are dumb AF.  Note how every alt righty who's posted here lapped it up hook, line, and sinker. 

Yup.

[TimHauck 2,662]

1 hour ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

T doesn’t belong with LGB. The previous 3 are a sexual preference while the latter is a mental illness. And there are plenty of gays and lesbians that agree.  Hell my aunt still doesn’t understand why she has to be lumped with the gay dudes 

What is the difference between gay and lesbian other than gender?

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,286]

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7317390/
 

 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,286]

2 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

What is the difference between gay and lesbian other than gender?

Just because I’m a Jew doesn’t mean I want to be lumped with all Jews.  My aunt has more in common with straight blue collar men that the gay boys 

[TimHauck 2,662]

2 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7317390/
 

 

Thanks for proving OP wrong!

[MDC 7,223]

I’m sorta cornfused by this chart. Which line are trannies on and what year does GOC start?

Dumb.

[TimHauck 2,662]

5 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

Just because I’m a Jew doesn’t mean I want to be lumped with all Jews.  

Better tell that to @Cdub100!

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,286]

5 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Thanks for proving OP wrong!

I’ve always said this. That conforming and surgery doesn’t improve the risk of suicide. Numbers fluctuate from year to year but my premise remains the same as I stated above 

[Raven Fan 362]

Just now, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

I’ve always said this. That conforming and surgery doesn’t improve the risk of suicide. Numbers fluctuate from year to year but my premise remains the same as I stated above 

You may want to inform your friends ITT who have argued the opposite and tried to use that meaningless graph to somehow back up their claim. 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,286]

Just now, Raven Fan said:

You may want to inform your friends ITT who have argued the opposite and tried to use that meaningless graph to somehow back up their claim. 

I always state my opinion. Here’s the difference between me and you. People have their own choice on how they perceive and what they want to believe. By me posting. That is informing others my opinion and they can argue or agree with me. That’s on them 

[Raven Fan 362]

Just now, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

I always state my opinion. Here’s the difference between me and you. People have their own choice on how they perceive and what they want to believe. By me posting. That is informing others my opinion and they can argue or agree with me. That’s on them 

I respect that take boyo.

[TimHauck 2,662]

12 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

I’ve always said this. That conforming and surgery doesn’t improve the risk of suicide. Numbers fluctuate from year to year but my premise remains the same as I stated above 

Huh?  This is what you said earlier, agreeing with the OP.  The study you linked  refutes this claim.

3 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

Yep always has been the case.  It’s cause trannies think that’s the solution to their mental issues and when it doesn’t solve it they are more depressed and now can’t even have an orgasm the rest of their life 

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,123]

48 minutes ago, squistion said:

So you could choose to have sex with men right now if you wanted to? For most men who self-identify as heterosexual that would be difficult if not impossible.

Why would it be impossible? 

[seafoam1 2,859]

51 minutes ago, squistion said:

So you could choose to have sex with men right now if you wanted to? For most men who self-identify as heterosexual that would be difficult if not impossible.

It's not difficult to eat cooked spinach, it's just gross. 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,286]

9 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Huh?  This is what you said earlier, agreeing with the OP.  The study you linked  refutes this claim.

 

I looked at the line that was flat, and saw its always been the same, I didnt click on the graph or anything

but the premise that gender affirming care and suicide rates are unchanged was something I was already aware of 

and my statement remains true, I guess I should have looked closer before responding but my response would have been the same either way

dont put kids into transitioning, it doesn't prevent suicide

 

[squistion 2,039]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Why would it be impossible? 

Not physically impossible of course, but impossible in the sense that most straight guys just couldn't perform sexually with another guy, as the desire would not be there.