The U.S. national debt is at $34,135,530,482,291 and rapidly growing

[seafoam1 3,404]

We should give more money to those Ukrainian thieves. Oh...and 10% for the big guy of course. 

...

"This is a warning shot across the U.S. government's bow that it needs to right its fiscal ship," Sean Snaith, an economist at the University of Central Florida, told FOX Business. "You can't just spend trillions of dollars more than you have in revenue every year and expect no ill consequences."

The outlook for the federal debt level is bleak, with economists increasingly sounding the alarm over the torrid pace of spending by Congress and the White House. 

[The Real timschochet 7,391]

Why do conservatives only care about this issue when a Democrat is President? 

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

It's closing in on how many lame, childish and unfunny posts you've created here is July 2017.

I'd take the national debt over that any day.

[seafoam1 3,404]

Just now, Pimpadeaux said:

It's closing in on how many lame, childish and unfunny posts you've created here is July 2017.

I'd take the national debt over that any day.

Clownzo at his best.

 

[seafoam1 3,404]

4 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Why do conservatives only care about this issue when a Democrat is President? 

You don't pay attention much. You should think before you vote. As well as think before you keep pumping chinese flu shots into yourself. 

[Strike 5,995]

5 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Why do conservatives only care about this issue when a Democrat is President? 

So you don't think it's a problem?

[seafoam1 3,404]

Just now, Strike said:

So you don't think it's a problem?

He only defends it when a liberal is in the white house. 

[Cdub100 3,995]

11 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Why do conservatives only care about this issue when a Democrat is President? 

Good question. Republicans don't do anything to address the problem while in power. I think Trump tried but got denied. 

[The Real timschochet 7,391]

7 minutes ago, Strike said:

So you don't think it's a problem?

Of course it’s a problem. But it can only be addressed by cutting military spending, or Social Security, or Medicare, or raising taxes. Thats it. Those are your 4 choices. You could eliminate everything that conservatives typically complain about and you wouldn’t make the slightest dent. 
 

OR- you could try and grow our economy so that the deficit and debt become less significant. How do we grow the economy? We invest in infrastructure, which Biden has done. We invest in viable new energy sources (see-nuclear fusion) which neither party seems willing to do. And you expand trade by eliminating tariffs, which Biden will not do and which Trump will only make worse. 

[The Real timschochet 7,391]

8 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

Good question. Republicans don't do anything to address the problem while in power. I think Trump tried but got denied. 

Trump did not try to reduce spending or address the deficit in any way. 

[seafoam1 3,404]

3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Trump did not try to reduce spending or address the deficit in any way. 

Of course this has to turn into a bash Trump thread. Because he created slavery, caused WW2, and is now attacking Israel!!! TRUMP!!!! 

[Cdub100 3,995]

3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Trump did not try to reduce spending or address the deficit in any way. 

Jesus Christ. Yes he tried but he doesn't control the purse, does he? 

I hate agreeing with you idiots because you focking want to slap-fight about everything and can't give one ounce of credit to Trump.

[The Psychic Observer 498]

Just now, Cdub100 said:

Jesus Christ. Yes he tried but he doesn't control the purse, does he? 

I hate agreeing with you idiots because you focking want to slap-fight about everything and can't give one ounce of credit to Trump.

He didn't try.  He pushed for and got a huge tax cut and he signed the covid bills which both added tremendously to the national debt.

And now he wants us to believe that he will fix it.  Nobody is that dumb.

[thegeneral 3,565]

18 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

Good question. Republicans don't do anything to address the problem while in power. I think Trump tried but got denied. 

What’s this now?

[The Real timschochet 7,391]

3 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

Jesus Christ. Yes he tried but he doesn't control the purse, does he? 

I hate agreeing with you idiots because you focking want to slap-fight about everything and can't give one ounce of credit to Trump.

I honestly can’t recall one proposal from Trump, when he was President, that involved reducing the deficit in any way. You’re welcome to offer one. 

[weepaws 3,323]

4 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

Jesus Christ. Yes he tried but he doesn't control the purse, does he? 

I hate agreeing with you idiots because you focking want to slap-fight about everything and can't give one ounce of credit to Trump.

Hey dummy up, stop taking God’s name in vain , replace it with your mommy’s name.  Foolish one.  

[Cdub100 3,995]

Just now, The Psychic Observer said:

He didn't try.  He pushed for and got a huge tax cut and he signed the covid bills which both added tremendously to the national debt.

And now he wants us to believe that he will fix it.  Nobody is that dumb.

I just searched and found dozens of articles about trump trying to reduce the deficit. 

So you liars can stop lying. He tried but the Republicans and Democrats love spending too much.

[weepaws 3,323]

Who was president, and what side did he pretend to be on , when the national depot went down during his term? 

[Cdub100 3,995]

Y'all pretend like the internet doest exist. And we can't easily look this up.

[seafoam1 3,404]

Liberals are so defensive everytime they realise their failures. And their go to is always....TRUMP!!!! 

[seafoam1 3,404]

3 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

Y'all pretend like the internet doest exist. And we can't easily look this up.

They need try to deflect to Trump because otherwise they would have to admit they are stupid. But ironically, it all ends up with the same result.

[The Real timschochet 7,391]

5 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

I just searched and found dozens of articles about trump trying to reduce the deficit. 

So you liars can stop lying. He tried but the Republicans and Democrats love spending too much.

Can you link one please? Thanks 

[Cdub100 3,995]

Just now, The Real timschochet said:

Can you link one please? Thanks 

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/07/13/cbo-releases-analysis-of-trumps-budget.html

Trump's budget would reduce deficit but wouldn't balance like White House promised, CBO says

[The Psychic Observer 498]

6 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

I just searched and found dozens of articles about trump trying to reduce the deficit. 

So you liars can stop lying. He tried but the Republicans and Democrats love spending too much.

So he's a failure.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,528]

20 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Of course it’s a problem. But it can only be addressed by cutting military spending, or Social Security, or Medicare, or raising taxes. Thats it. Those are your 4 choices. You could eliminate everything that conservatives typically complain about and you wouldn’t make the slightest dent. 
 

OR- you could try and grow our economy so that the deficit and debt become less significant. How do we grow the economy? We invest in infrastructure, which Biden has done. We invest in viable new energy sources (see-nuclear fusion) which neither party seems willing to do. And you expand trade by eliminating tariffs, which Biden will not do and which Trump will only make worse. 

or you could gut the useless fat, starting with the IRS and implementing a flat tax with zero write offs

 

[thegeneral 3,565]

By October of 2019 the deficit was up 68% from when Trump took office.

Then it of course really kicked into overdrive.

The point being made is we don’t care about the debt. Republicans certainly don’t. It’s all play money until at some point it isn’t any more. 

[Tree of Knowledge 2,104]

Elect (ahem Install) a clown, expect a circus.  

[The Real timschochet 7,391]

4 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/07/13/cbo-releases-analysis-of-trumps-budget.html

Trump's budget would reduce deficit but wouldn't balance like White House promised, CBO says

Thank you. Thats from his first year before he got his tax cut through, which significantly increased the deficit. And his cuts were insignificant. Trump made no move to seriously address this issue. To be fair, no other President has either. 

[seafoam1 3,404]

It's amazing how such an incredably massive problem in this country is mentioned and the liberals just instantly flock in to whine about Trump.

If that doesn't show mental illness, then I don't know what does. 

[Cdub100 3,995]

1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

Thank you. Thats from his first year before he got his tax cut through, which significantly increased the deficit. And his cuts were insignificant. Trump made no move to seriously address this issue. To be fair, no other President has either. 

Again.... my point was Trump wanted to reduce the deficit but the Republicans and Democrats don't. I never said he was successful just that he wanted to. You guys jumped all over me, because you are misinformed.

[The Real timschochet 7,391]

4 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

or you could gut the useless fat, starting with the IRS and implementing a flat tax with zero write offs

 

There isn’t enough useless fat that, if it were all removed, would make any difference whatsoever in the deficit or debt. And a flat tax would result in less annual revenue which would only increase the deficit. 

I gave you the 5 ways to address this problem. There aren’t any others. 

[The Real timschochet 7,391]

Just now, Cdub100 said:

Again.... my point was Trump wanted to reduce the deficit but the Republicans and Democrats don't. I never said he was successful just that he wanted to. You guys jumped all over me, because you are misinformed.

He didn’t. Not in any meaningful way. He wanted to cut a few programs he didn’t like. 

[seafoam1 3,404]

5 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

He didn’t. Not in any meaningful way. He wanted to cut a few programs he didn’t like. 

Timmy, how are you so wounded by Trump that you need to turn a serious current US problem into a Trump bashing thread?

Why are you liberals so hurt? Didn't you get the president you wanted 12 of the last 16 years? Where's their accountability? 

I bet THAT'S what you are trying to avoid. 

[thegeneral 3,565]

8 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

Again.... my point was Trump wanted to reduce the deficit but the Republicans and Democrats don't. I never said he was successful just that he wanted to. You guys jumped all over me, because you are misinformed.

They all say stuff like this

 

[Strike 5,995]

7 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

There isn’t enough useless fat that, if it were all removed, would make any difference whatsoever in the deficit or debt. And a flat tax would result in less annual revenue which would only increase the deficit. 

I gave you the 5 ways to address this problem. There aren’t any others. 

How about some links supporting your position?

[Engorgeous George 2,332]

Deficit passed one billion during the Civil War, passed one trillion 120 years later during Reagan.  

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,528]

11 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

There isn’t enough useless fat that, if it were all removed, would make any difference whatsoever in the deficit or debt. And a flat tax would result in less annual revenue which would only increase the deficit. 

I gave you the 5 ways to address this problem. There aren’t any others. 

no it wouldn't you guys b1tch about taxing the rich and all their write offs, a 20% flat tax over 50k annually would generate far more revenue than the current system

cut foreign aid, also its a start.  Reform SSI, reform medicare, reform everything

 

[The Real timschochet 7,391]

2 minutes ago, Strike said:

How about some links supporting your position?

Which part? How about some links refuting it? 

[The Real timschochet 7,391]

5 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

Timmy, how are you so wounded by Trump that you need to turn a serious current US problem into a Trump bashing thread?

Why are you liberals so hurt? Didn't you get the president you wanted 12 of the last 16 years? Where's their accountability? 

I bet THAT'S what you are trying to avoid. 

You need to read through this thread again. I don’t bring up Trump. Trump has been no worse on this issue than any other President. 

[seafoam1 3,404]

1 minute ago, Engorgeous George said:

Deficit passed one billion during the Civil War, passed one trillion 120 years later during Reagan.  

This country is going to go Venezuela on us if creepy joe gets another term.