NFL Free Agency/ Draft 2024

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6 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

No.  Just because he does well with another team doesn't mean he would've been that good for the Bears.  I'm a firm believer that if the Bears drafted Mahomes he would just be another average QB.  The Bear's ownership is trash.

Sad.  

Bears really should have fired the GM and coach this off-season and started entirely new.

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2 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

That's the cycle I was referring too.  A team can not be successful doing that.

It's helped the Packers be successful for much of the last 30 years! 

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1 minute ago, MDC said:

Sad.  

Bears really should have fired the GM and coach this off-season and started entirely new.

Why? What's wrong with Poles?

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Just now, Mike Honcho said:

It's helped the Packers be successful for much of the last 30 years! 

I use to like you

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1 minute ago, Mike Honcho said:

It's helped the Packers be successful for much of the last 30 years! 

Rex Grossman same number of conference championships as Aaron Rodgers. 

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2 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

Why? What's wrong with Poles?

You tell us.  You guys are the ones who dont trust him to take a QB when he has the pick of the litter.  

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Just now, seafoam1 said:

Rex Grossman same number of conference championships as Aaron Rodgers. 

I miss the Lovie Smith era.  I would have loved to see Fields on those teams.

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Just now, listen2me 23 said:

You tell us.  You guys are the ones who dont trust him to take a QB when hr had thr pick of the litter.  

What the fock are you making up now? Where did you get that from? 

See, this is the problems with packer fans, they just make shlt up. 

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Just now, listen2me 23 said:

You tell us.  You guys are the ones who dont trust him to take a QB when he has the pick of the litter.  

I like Poles.  If he thinks Williams is the right pick then I'll support it.  If I were him I would trade that pick.  I'm not a GM and for good reason though.

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Just now, seafoam1 said:

What the fock are you making up now? Where did you get that from? 

See, this is the problems with packer fans, they just make shlt up. 

You have said youd like to not take a QB at 1 overall.  Hawk has now said it.  

Have you guys not?  

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4 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

Rex Grossman same number of conference championships as Aaron Rodgers. 

Trent Dilfer has more SB wins than Dan Marino. 

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1 minute ago, Hawkeye21 said:

I miss the Lovie Smith era.  I would have loved to see Fields on those teams.

Fields just got a raw deal because Poles had to break this team down and get the salary cap in check. It was the right thing to do. 

The Bears are back on track to a decent rebuild. First time in a while. 

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5 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

You have said youd like to not take a QB at 1 overall.  Hawk has now said it.  

Have you guys not?  

What's your point?  Maybe Pace feels the same as we do.  Who knows?

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3 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

Fields just got a raw deal because Poles had to break this team down and get the salary cap in check. It was the right thing to do. 

The Bears are back on track to a decent rebuild. First time in a while. 

I agree.

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7 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

You have said youd like to not take a QB at 1 overall.  Hawk has now said it.  

Have you guys not?  

I'm all for if they take a different QB. I wouldn't mind even if they kept Fields and sat Williams (or whoever) for a year. I prefer the rookie to sit. 

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3 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

What's your point?  Maybe Pace feels the same as we do.  Who knows?

You guys come off as you are totally afraid to fock up the pick.  Yet trust Poles.  Logic doesnt add.  Instead you want Poles to sit with thr guy he didn't draft and just "hold on for dear life" thats not trust in the guy.   

(I think I called Poles, Pace too)

Who knows what he wants to do.  But overwhelming signs point to Fields leaving, even if he doesnt have a strong market.  

 

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More Bears / Fields talk. Awesome. Has anyone mentioned Rex Grossman yet? I love when that happens.  

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Just now, listen2me 23 said:

You guys come off as you are totally afraid to fock up the pick.  Yet trust Poles.  Logic doesnt add.  Instead you want Poles to sit with thr guy he didn't draft and just "hold on for dear life)  thats not trust in thr guy.   

(I think I called Poles, Pace too)

Who knows what he wants to do.  But overwhelming signs point to Fields leaving, ecen if he doesnt have a strong market.  

 

I think you're trying to make this something it's not.  If Poles thinks that Williams is the QB that will take the Bears to the next level then he should draft him.  I don't think Williams is the answer.  That's all.

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1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

More Bears / Fields talk. Awesome. Has anyone mentioned Rex Grossman yet? I love when that happens.  

YUP!

14 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

Rex Grossman same number of conference championships as Aaron Rodgers. 

 

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2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

More Bears / Fields talk. Awesome. Has anyone mentioned Rex Grossman yet? I love when that happens.  

Yep. Why don't you bring up Barkley and his great success in NY as a #2 pick in the draft? I think he's on the open market now.

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1 minute ago, seafoam1 said:

Yep. Why don't you bring up Barkley and his great success in NY as a #2 pick in the draft? I think he's on the open market now.

I did. Why don’t you tell us about Kyle Orton too. Wasn’t he on that Bears team as well? 

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1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I did. Why don’t you tell us about Kyle Orton too. Wasn’t he on that Bears team as well? 

So you DO want to talk about the Bears? Mixed signals here. 

Make up your mind. 

6 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

More Bears / Fields talk. Awesome. Has anyone mentioned Rex Grossman yet? I love when that happens.  

 

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4 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

I think you're trying to make this something it's not.  If Poles thinks that Williams is the QB that will take the Bears to the next level then he should draft him.  I don't think Williams is the answer.  That's all.

Yeah thats fine.  With regular Bears posters we are 3 for 3.   Each one has said thr same thing.  Fields is good, its everyone elses fault.  You want Fields.  You queation Caleb and with what youve seen dont care for him.  So I just draw conclusions of where the fanbase generally stands.  Behind Fields, ironically.  

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4 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

I think you're trying to make this something it's not.  If Poles thinks that Williams is the QB that will take the Bears to the next level then he should draft him.  I don't think Williams is the answer.  That's all.

Mock on the Athletic had them going with Rome Odunze with the 2nd pick.  Him and Moore would make for a really scary combo. 

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Just now, listen2me 23 said:

Yeah thats fine.  With regular Bears posters we are 3 for 3.   Each one has said thr same thing.  Fields is good, its everyone elses fault.  You want Fields.  You queation Caleb and with what youve seen dont care for him.  So I just draw conclusions of where the fanbase generally stands.  Behind Fields, ironically.  

I'm not sure why it bothers you this much.

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1 minute ago, listen2me 23 said:

Yeah thats fine.  With regular Bears posters we are 3 for 3.   Each one has said thr same thing.  Fields is good, its everyone elses fault.  You want Fields.  You queation Caleb and with what youve seen dont care for him.  So I just draw conclusions of where the fanbase generally stands.  Behind Fields, ironically.  

I never said that. I said he got a raw deal. I didn't boast Fields. I thought he had a shot for sure. He still might. 

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1 minute ago, Hawkeye21 said:

I'm not sure why it bothers you this much.

3 words. -fudge packer fan. 

They truly are all the same. 

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Just now, Hawkeye21 said:

I'm not sure why it bothers you this much.

Im talking football.  This is your shtick here lol.  "Why does it matter"  

Um ok.  Wont talk football with you.  You apparently dont care lol.  

Doesn't bother me.  Im just trying to understand what logic you Bears fans are operating with.  

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1 minute ago, seafoam1 said:

3 words. -fudge packer fan. 

They truly are all the same. 

Is this where you tell me Packers fans cant not make it about the Packers?  

Yet I havent mentioned the Packers once in this exchange and you have multiple times?  

Lol

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Just now, listen2me 23 said:

Im talking football.  This is your shtick here lol.  "Why does it matter"  

Um ok.  Wont talk football with you.  You apparently dont care lol.  

Doesn't bother me.  Im just trying to understand what logic you Bears fans are operating with.  

I don't have a schtick.  If you want to talk football, that's great.  You seem to get emotional and defensive about it though.  We're just fans with opinions, relax.

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1 minute ago, listen2me 23 said:

Is this where you tell me Packers fans cant not make it about the Packers?  

Yet I havent mentioned the Packers once in this exchange and you have multiple times?  

Lol

No. It's the football version of liberal TDS. It's always about the Bears. 

I join in plenty of other team discussions without being obsessed with trying to put them down. 

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Just now, seafoam1 said:

No. It's the football version of liberal TDS. It's always about the Bears. 

The Bears hold 2 top 10 picks.  Yeah thr Bears are the story of the draft this year.  You need to get out some.

 Now you are upset when I dont mwntion the Packers and talk about the Bears.  

Lol Bears fan.  Gotta love them. 

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13 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

I don't have a schtick.  If you want to talk football, that's great.  You seem to get emotional and defensive about it though.  We're just fans with opinions, relax.

Most packer fans are so miserable to talk football with. 

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34 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

More Bears / Fields talk. Awesome. Has anyone mentioned Rex Grossman yet? I love when that happens.  

I know you said dream would be trade down some. But lets say QBs go 1 2 3.  And you guys stay at 6.  What kind of player are you hoping for?  What direction do the Giants go in?  BPA?

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24 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

I don't have a schtick.  If you want to talk football, that's great.  You seem to get emotional and defensive about it though.  We're just fans with opinions, relax.

My apologies for talking football.  I forgot how fragile you are.  

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1 minute ago, listen2me 23 said:

My apologies for talking football.  I forgot how fragile you are.  

Seriously, there's no need to be so defensive.  I gave my opinions on what I think the Bears should do.  What more did you want, an argument?

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4 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

I know you said dream would be trade down some. But lets say QBs go 1 2 3.  And you guys stay at 6.  What kind of player are you hoping for?  What direction do the Giants go in?  BPA?

WR. But it doesn’t matter. They are a mess. Anything but another tackle and I’ll be ok with it. I’d rather wait until next year to go after the QB, and not necessarily in the draft, but that’s ok too. 

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Just now, Hawkeye21 said:

Seriously, there's no need to be so defensive.  I gave my opinions on what I think the Bears should do.  What more did you want, an argument?

Nope. He said you are fragile. So I guess you are fragile. 

And he called me upset. So...it MUST be true.

He's great to talk football with. 

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Packers needs:  safety (multiple), CB depth, a LBer since Campbell has hit a wall and may be gone, backup RB, OL depth.  

Hard to really say since changing DCs with a new scheme.  Not sure exactly what sorts of players Hafley wants.  But hes mentioned tackling and they will play much more single high over 2 deep.   They will need a deep safety.   I am expecting a FA pickup at S since the FA class is so good.  

Id rather not go OL early.  I see guys selectiing a Tackle and saying they need one.  Perhaps they didn't watch any games this year.  OL early is still a possibility, but I myself am fine with the starting 5 we would put on the field.  Rasheed Walker was great last year at LT and still raw.  

Id love Cooper Dejean.  For the deep saftey Nubin from Minny is really good.  Very smart, athletic enough, great production.  

Packers can go several different directions early. But secondary will havd to be addressed.  

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6 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Seriously, there's no need to be so defensive.  I gave my opinions on what I think the Bears should do.  What more did you want, an argument?

I want nothing.  You are being dramatic.  If you don't want to spitball about football thats fine.