Do you have or want a “Trad” Wife?

[TimHauck 1,804]

41 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I'll give a different perspective; an evolutionary viewpoint I heard on a pod a while back (forget which one).  Men are programmed to have sex with multiple women, to propagate their genes.  They are also, however, less interested in women who sleep with multiple men, because then they don't know if the baby is theirs.

Women, conversely, are programmed to NOT sleep around, for the above reason, but also because each sexual encounter brings with it the risk of pregnancy, which for her means 9 months of gestation then years of child raising.  That is why women are programmed to be much more selective in their mates.

Now, as you pointed out, we as a culture have decided we don't like this programming, so we make comments like "that is so early 2000's $#@!" and try to convince women that it is in their interest to sleep around.  I believe that women are in general not happy "swiping right" often, and that history will show that this was a bad idea.

This is a better argument than that of those other idiots, but still dumb.

So high school and college dudes that have lots of sex are doing so because they’re “programmed to propagate their genes”?  Yeah, OK.

And the birth control pill pretty much makes your second paragraph moot.

I never said “it is in women’s best interest to sleep around.”  I do think women with a “high body count” (which of course is relative) can be considered sluts.  But men with “high body counts” should be too.

[TheNewGirl 1,031]

14 hours ago, iam90sbaby said:

It's hard for men

It's easy for women

People don't respect things that are easy. You're braindead. 

But how is this true when men take women out to dinner and expect s3x? They are looking for someone whom they do not respect? They are looking for someone easy? It's kind of countering what you're saying. 

It's difficult for men to get laid, but yet it's what they are expecting when they take a woman out for one date and drop some change on dinner. They are literally seeking a woman they can disrespect, someone they can use for one night, claim that she gave it up TOO easily and that she's not the one for them. THEN comes along the one WHO doesn't give it up, and she's too difficult for them and not worth the chase. 

What gives? This makes NO sense. 

[jerryskids 5,212]

2 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

This is a better argument than that of those other idiots, but still dumb.

So high school and college dudes that have lots of sex are doing so because they’re “programmed to propagate their genes”?  Yeah, OK.

And the birth control pill pretty much makes your second paragraph moot.

I never said “it is in women’s best interest to sleep around.”  I do think women with a “high body count” (which of course is relative) can be considered sluts.  But men with “high body counts” should be too.

What's dumb is to take a valid argument which explains WHY we, deep down, feel the way we do about the body count of different sexes, and say things like "but we have the pill now!" 

And yes, basically, to your second paragraph.

You are free to think sex is exactly the same to both sexes; if so, you have either successfully fooled yourself that it is the case.  For most of us, this isn't the case.  A boy in puberty will fock a sock, a canteloupe, a toilet paper cardboard cylinder, anything that can be focked.  Perhaps you didn't experience this.   

[iam90sbaby 2,125]

10 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

But how is this true when men take women out to dinner and expect s3x? They are looking for someone whom they do not respect? They are looking for someone easy? It's kind of countering what you're saying. 

It's difficult for men to get laid, but yet it's what they are expecting when they take a woman out for one date and drop some change on dinner. They are literally seeking a woman they can disrespect, someone they can use for one night, claim that she gave it up TOO easily and that she's not the one for them. THEN comes along the one WHO doesn't give it up, and she's too difficult for them and not worth the chase. 

What gives? This makes NO sense. 

I'm just answering the question on why women are sluts if they have a high body count and why men aren't.  

That's what they are expecting with women they have zero intentions of having a long term relationship with.  They're just playing along long enough to get laid.  Most men would never marry a woman that gave it up after the first date anyways.

It makes sense, you just don't want it to.

[IGotWorms 3,317]

20 hours ago, TheNewGirl said:

So I've been seeing a lot of tik Tok and reels lately about what men/women are looking for these days, and it brought me back to this thread and some of the stuff that I read on this site in general. 

I really do think that the traditional marriage is out the door, or close to it. I really feel like men have a strong dislike or even hatred towards women.

I am misreading? It really just feels like men feel that women are out for someone to pay their bills and take care of them? And the hatred that these men express...especially if the man feels like the woman bring nothing to the table? The expectations the men have for s#x is crazy. Go out for dinner/drinks, and he immediately expects something in return, if she doesn't give it up, he doesn't bother. 

Is this really how it is now? 

The problem is you run in far right wing circles, so that’s all you see. But for that segment, yes I would say this is probably more true than not, unfortunately.

[iam90sbaby 2,125]

1 minute ago, IGotWorms said:

The problem is you run in far right wing circles, so that’s all you see. But for that segment, yes I would say this is probably more true than not, unfortunately.

Simp

[IGotWorms 3,317]

16 hours ago, iam90sbaby said:

Most modern women act like hoes so most get treated like hoes, that simple 

See case in point. This guy is a downright misogynist assh0le, and no doubt a fat lonely angry incel. And we know he’s a Trumper

[iam90sbaby 2,125]

7 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

See case in point. This guy is a downright misogynist assh0le, and no doubt a fat lonely angry incel. And we know he’s a Trumper

I'm 6'2, I weight 185 and I have pretty blue eyes nerd

[IGotWorms 3,317]

Just now, iam90sbaby said:

I'm 6'2 and I weight 185 nerd 

So maybe not fat, if we believe you. But the rest stands regardless 

[iam90sbaby 2,125]

Just now, IGotWorms said:

So maybe not fat, if we believe you. But the rest stands regardless 

Whatever you say little guy 

[IGotWorms 3,317]

Just now, iam90sbaby said:

Whatever you say little guy 

I’m bigger than you, apparently  

[TheNewGirl 1,031]

14 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

The problem is you run in far right wing circles, so that’s all you see. But for that segment, yes I would say this is probably more true than not, unfortunately.

I can't even with you and this, so I am going to just let you continue to think that you know all there is to know about me. 

[iam90sbaby 2,125]

2 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

I’m bigger than you, apparently  

BMI don't count 

[TheNewGirl 1,031]

4 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said:

Whatever you say little guy 

You guys should really just fock and get it over with. 

[IGotWorms 3,317]

4 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

I can't even with you and this, so I am going to just let you continue to think that you know all there is to know about me. 

Ok, cast your lot with the angry right wing incels then ask why you see so much misogyny. Makes sense to me

[IGotWorms 3,317]

3 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

You guys should really just fock and get it over with. 

I have no doubt that 90sbaby is a closeted homosexual, though that’s okay. I, however, am not.

[TheNewGirl 1,031]

 

1 minute ago, IGotWorms said:

I have no doubt that 90sbaby is a closeted homosexual, though that’s okay. I, however, am not.

You're a lib, you're all closeted homos. 

[BeachGuy23 512]

16 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said:

I'm 6'2, I weight 185 and I have pretty blue eyes nerd

LMFAO

What man refers to their own eyes as "pretty"?  Oh yea, the gay ones.

And 100% you're a baldcell.

SAD

[BeachGuy23 512]

5 hours ago, TheNewGirl said:

 

You're a lib, you're all closeted homos. 

LOL

So says the alt right Karen.

Dumber than the day is long. 

[iam90sbaby 2,125]

5 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

I have no doubt that 90sbaby is a closeted homosexual, though that’s okay. I, however, am not.

That's some nice projecting there worms 

[iam90sbaby 2,125]

2 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said:

LMFAO

What man refers to their own eyes as "pretty"?  Oh yea, the gay ones.

And 100% you're a baldcell.

SAD

I have a full head of hair bud lol.

[BeachGuy23 512]

1 minute ago, iam90sbaby said:

I have a full head of hair bud lol.

Zero chance.

You described your eyes as pretty.  You're 100% a baldcell.

[iam90sbaby 2,125]

Just now, BeachGuy23 said:

Zero chance.

You described your eyes as pretty.  You're 100% a baldcell.

Lol ok

[Jose M 49]

4 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said:

LMFAO

What man refers to their own eyes as "pretty"?  Oh yea, the gay ones.

And 100% you're a baldcell.

SAD

Boyosexual Guys

  What a twink.

[BeachGuy23 512]

4 minutes ago, Jose M said:

Boyosexual Guys

  What a twink.

Oh my amazing hair is well documented boyo.  Any man would be proud of that.

What any "man" wouldn't do is describe his eyes as pretty...but I can see why that drew in the serial gay porn poster Horsegirl.

No visit from Mike yet huh?

[TimHauck 1,804]

1 hour ago, jerryskids said:

What's dumb is to take a valid argument which explains WHY we, deep down, feel the way we do about the body count of different sexes, and say things like "but we have the pill now!" 

And yes, basically, to your second paragraph.

You are free to think sex is exactly the same to both sexes; if so, you have either successfully fooled yourself that it is the case.  For most of us, this isn't the case.  A boy in puberty will fock a sock, a canteloupe, a toilet paper cardboard cylinder, anything that can be focked.  Perhaps you didn't experience this.   

I guess my issue is more with the claim that guys having a lot of sex are “respected.”  Why should they be “respected” for simply satisfying their programmed urges?

[EternalShinyAndChrome 2,529]

1 hour ago, IGotWorms said:

Ok, cast your lot with the angry right wing incels then ask why you see so much misogyny. Makes sense to me

I think the problem here is you have ZERO idea what "misogyny" means since you seem to think that it applies to anyone who even remotely criticizes women.

Just another word you cucks have co-opted and rendered it useless. GTFO with your dumb sh#t.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 2,529]

1 hour ago, Jose M said:

Boyosexual Guys

  What a twink.

This is now the 2nd time in a day you've busted him accusing others of doing the same exact thing he's doing himself! 

It's TOO....F'N....EASY! 

[jerryskids 5,212]

1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

I guess my issue is more with the claim that guys having a lot of sex are “respected.”  Why should they be “respected” for simply satisfying their programmed urges?

I never said "respected."  "Accepted" or "understood," more like.

That being said, this idea of "well, if boys can do it, girls can and should too" is poor logic.  Males and females approach a myriad of situations differently, both physically and psychologically.  But somehow, people think they should approach one of our most fundamental behaviors the same?  This is foolish.

[TimHauck 1,804]

4 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I never said "respected."

@iam90sbaby did, and @EternalShinyAndChrome seemed to agree 

[BeachGuy23 512]

1 hour ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

This is now the 2nd time in a day you've busted him accusing others of doing the same exact thing he's doing himself! 

It's TOO....F'N....EASY! 

Da phuk are you talking about boyo?

Link where I said my eyes were pretty?

Your obsession and gay desire for me is getting seriously troubling boyo.

I told you Horsegirl swings that way, you two should have at it.

Man cultist are morons...SMH

[jerryskids 5,212]

5 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

@iam90sbaby did, and @EternalShinyAndChrome seemed to agree 

I gave you a very polite, thought-out counter theory to that idea, and you called it dumb.  So I had moved on to addressing that comment, not the one about respect.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 2,529]

43 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

@iam90sbaby did, and @EternalShinyAndChrome seemed to agree

Are you actually making the argument that women who are railroaded by a ton of guys are respected?

[Engorgeous George 1,185]

4 hours ago, TheNewGirl said:

But how is this true when men take women out to dinner and expect s3x? They are looking for someone whom they do not respect? They are looking for someone easy? It's kind of countering what you're saying. 

It's difficult for men to get laid, but yet it's what they are expecting when they take a woman out for one date and drop some change on dinner. They are literally seeking a woman they can disrespect, someone they can use for one night, claim that she gave it up TOO easily and that she's not the one for them. THEN comes along the one WHO doesn't give it up, and she's too difficult for them and not worth the chase. 

What gives? This makes NO sense. 

I never expected sex on the first date.  I didn't expect it on the third date but I certainly took a look at where things were headed and at what pace.  

 

I did get sex on the first date twice, both lead to relationships which were monogamous for a few years.  In both instances they cheated, I never did.  I broke it off with each.  They each made multiple overtures to get back together.  I am nobody's second choice or fall back plan, I had nothing to do with either after I broke it off.  One ended up doing fine for herself, the other ended up a wreck, passed around, then a drug habit, and finally jail.  

 

Of course i am old and my experiences may be wholly irrelevant to current dating.

 

 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 2,529]

I've never in my entire life expected sex on a first date. Or a second date. Or third date. For me It was always when the time was right.

[TheNewGirl 1,031]

Of course, not all men expect it, just like not all women expect men to pay their bills. 

 

 

[TimHauck 1,804]

1 hour ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Are you actually making the argument that women who are railroaded by a ton of guys are respected?

No, I’m saying guys who railroad a ton of girls shouldn’t be respected.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 2,529]

9 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

No, I’m saying guys who railroad a ton of girls shouldn’t be respected.

uhm...ok. 

Another liberal separated from reality.

[TheNewGirl 1,031]

5 hours ago, BeachGuy23 said:

LOL

So say the alt right Karen.

Dumber than the day is long. 

Ah, you know if given the chance you and Worms would like to fock the alt right out of me the first chance you got. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 2,529]

5 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

Ah, you know if given the chance you and Worms would like to fock the alt right out of me the first chance you got. 

Sorry TnG, BeachGhey is a boyosexual - he's only into twinks.