Fireballer 2,385 Posted April 14 53 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Excellent article on the real life consequences of what the MAGA folks are trying to push through: https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/14/us/texas-immigration-law-iowa-other-us-states-cec/index.html Fear, distrust, bigotry. Not the kind of America I want to live in; how about you? Preach on, Maxine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 682 Posted April 14 2 hours ago, jerryskids said: How about you just link to the post where I said immigrants didn't build this country? That's right, I didn't. White protestant immigrants Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,664 Posted April 14 9 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: White protestant immigrants Well that’s bullshit right there anyway. My grandfather worked on the Empire State Building before he got deported. And then there’s all the Irish on the railroads. And the ones that built New Orleans out of a swamp. Never mind the countless war heroes. Many if not most medals of honor for the Irish Catholics. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 682 Posted April 14 5 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Well that’s bullshit right there anyway. My grandfather worked on the Empire State Building before he got deported. And then there’s all the Irish on the railroads. And the ones that built New Orleans out of a swamp. Never mind the countless war heroes. Many if not most medals of honor for the Irish Catholics. Take it up with Jerry, that was his argument against me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,664 Posted April 14 4 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Take it up with Jerry, that was his argument against me. I know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,664 Posted April 14 And never mind the Catholic Italians that came here , the greatest masons in the world. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 652 Posted April 14 12 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Take it up with Jerry, that was his argument against me. I love this for the Pedocrat Cultists Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 5,212 Posted April 14 46 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Take it up with Jerry, that was his argument against me. You claim to have listened to that podcast but you have gone full retard on this. My point was that you were wrong about our long history of immigration. We have a long history of controlled entry of white protestants from Britain and Germany. In the early 1900s we started letting in Catholics and Jews, for which I'm grateful, because my Polish, Slovak, and Italian Catholic ancestors all came in that window. But then the white protestants didn't like that, so they changed the rules. It wasn't until the Immigration Act of 1965, almost within my lifetime, that we basically opened things up to others. So this idyllic idea of "oooh, Statue of Liberty, give me your tired... we've always welcomed everyone$#@!" is horseshiot. ETA: And I'm being kind with a description of "wrong." If you actually did listen to that podcast, you are either lying or stupid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 682 Posted April 14 9 minutes ago, jerryskids said: You claim to have listened to that podcast but you have gone full retard on this. My point was that you were wrong about our long history of immigration. We have a long history of controlled entry of white protestants from Britain and Germany. In the early 1900s we started letting in Catholics and Jews, for which I'm grateful, because my Polish, Slovak, and Italian Catholic ancestors all came in that window. But then the white protestants didn't like that, so they changed the rules. It wasn't until the Immigration Act of 1965, almost within my lifetime, that we basically opened things up to others. So this idyllic idea of "oooh, Statue of Liberty, give me your tired... we've always welcomed everyone$#@!" is horseshiot. ETA: And I'm being kind with a description of "wrong." If you actually did listen to that podcast, you are either lying or stupid. The first thing I told you about what struck me about the podcast was the disdain people had for immigrants. I thought it was a recent phenomena but it's not. We're on the same page but for whatever reason you just wanna act like a douche. Enjoy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
double tour 82 Posted April 14 50 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: I love this for the Pedocrat Cultists I heard a commercial today on the radio. Biden said his #1 goal of his first term was to "save democracy". Do these liberals even know WTF they are talking about anymore? They are lost in their own stupidity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 2,529 Posted April 14 1 hour ago, double tour said: I heard a commercial today on the radio. Biden said his #1 goal of his first term was to "save democracy". Do these liberals even know WTF they are talking about anymore? They are lost in their own stupidity. The push from the left is towards Communism. It's not Democracy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 5,212 Posted April 15 1 hour ago, Ron_Artest said: The first thing I told you about what struck me about the podcast was the disdain people had for immigrants. I thought it was a recent phenomena but it's not. We're on the same page but for whatever reason you just wanna act like a douche. Enjoy. I feel like you are acting the doosh, we can agree to disagree on that. And yes, there has always been that disdain for immigrants, at least the non-white-protestant ones. That was my point. There will always be a fear of unknown cultures, that's perfectly understandable. The question is: is it justified? Countries like Sweden might look at their Somali gangs and think... maybe notsomuch. Just because we've had past success with our controlled immigration, doesn't mean that letting in all immigrants today is a good thing. Trying to steer this in a more productive direction: what was your thought on Canada and their focus on education/productivity of immigrants vs. family? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 2,955 Posted April 15 4 hours ago, jerryskids said: You claim to have listened to that podcast but you have gone full retard on this. My point was that you were wrong about our long history of immigration. We have a long history of controlled entry of white protestants from Britain and Germany. In the early 1900s we started letting in Catholics and Jews, for which I'm grateful, because my Polish, Slovak, and Italian Catholic ancestors all came in that window. But then the white protestants didn't like that, so they changed the rules. It wasn't until the Immigration Act of 1965, almost within my lifetime, that we basically opened things up to others. So this idyllic idea of "oooh, Statue of Liberty, give me your tired... we've always welcomed everyone$#@!" is horseshiot. ETA: And I'm being kind with a description of "wrong." If you actually did listen to that podcast, you are either lying or stupid. The Statue of Liberty poetry isn’t horsesh!t; it’s an ideal. Like the preamble to the Constitution, it’s represents aspiration for us to become a more perfect Union. We don’t always live up to the ideal, but we’ve actually done a better job at immigration and racial diversity than any nation in world history. That’s why, despite our faults, we remain the greatest nation that has ever existed, But we shouldn’t turn our back on this ideal in the name of security or racial cohesion or even economic concerns. When we do we lose just a little of our greatness, IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
double tour 82 Posted April 15 2 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: The Statue of Liberty poetry isn’t horsesh!t; it’s an ideal. Like the preamble to the Constitution, it’s represents aspiration for us to become a more perfect Union. We don’t always live up to the ideal, but we’ve actually done a better job at immigration and racial diversity than any nation in world history. That’s why, despite our faults, we remain the greatest nation that has ever existed, But we shouldn’t turn our back on this ideal in the name of security or racial cohesion or even economic concerns. When we do we lose just a little of our greatness, IMO. Ok. So you want to live in the past and not adjust according to how our country has grown over the years. Let's go back to how things were in 1885. Get a clue. Time to shut the borders. Completely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 682 Posted April 15 4 hours ago, double tour said: Ok. So you want to live in the past and not adjust according to how our country has grown over the years. Let's go back to how things were in 1885. Get a clue. Time to shut the borders. Completely. Shut up peefoam. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeachGuy23 512 Posted April 15 4 hours ago, double tour said: Ok. So you want to live in the past and not adjust according to how our country has grown over the years. Let's go back to how things were in 1885. Get a clue. Time to shut the borders. Completely. Take your ban like the little girl you are and stay away Peafoam. Everyone is glad you're gone, even your fellow cultist morons can't stand you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,664 Posted April 15 13 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Shut up peefoam. Shut up Gutterboy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,664 Posted April 15 5 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said: Take your ban like the little girl you are and stay away Ravens fan Everyone is glad you're gone, even your fellow cultist morons can't stand you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeachGuy23 512 Posted April 15 2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Here's an idea boyo, how about you spend a few days a week, heck a few hours a day away from this cesspool? You literally post 18 hours a day 50x a day. It's honestly pathetic, particularly if you have younger kids. Get your priorities straight boyo, I think you're probably a decent guy beneath it all but man you drank the orange cool aide so bigly it's consumed your life. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,664 Posted April 15 5 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said: Here's an idea boyo, how about you spend a few days a week, heck a few hours a day away from this cesspool? You literally post 18 hours a day 50x a day. It's honestly pathetic, particularly if you have younger kids. Get your priorities straight boyo, I think you're probably a decent guy beneath it all but man you drank the orange cool aide so bigly it's consumed your life. Ok Ravens Fan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeachGuy23 512 Posted April 15 1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Ok Ravens Fan I'm just trying to help boyo. You spend way way way more time on there then a man should who has a young family. You are such a cuck for Trump that you can't even break away from this cultist cesspool for a few days. Ask anyone what they think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,664 Posted April 15 6 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said: I'm just trying to help boyo. You spend way way way more time on there then a man should who has a young family. You are such a cuck for Trump that you can't even break away from this cultist cesspool for a few days. Ask anyone what they think. Sure thing Wade Garrett Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
double tour 82 Posted April 15 1 hour ago, BeachGuy23 said: Take your ban like the little girl you are and stay away Peafoam. Everyone is glad you're gone, even your fellow cultist morons can't stand you. 'boyo'. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
double tour 82 Posted April 15 Anyone wonder why the FBG doors closed? They just can't stop. Even daddy Joe hated his own kind. 1 hour ago, Ron_Artest said: Shut up peefoam. 1 hour ago, BeachGuy23 said: Take your ban like the little girl you are and stay away Peafoam. Everyone is glad you're gone, even your fellow cultist morons can't stand you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 5,212 Posted April 15 10 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: The Statue of Liberty poetry isn’t horsesh!t; it’s an ideal. Like the preamble to the Constitution, it’s represents aspiration for us to become a more perfect Union. We don’t always live up to the ideal, but we’ve actually done a better job at immigration and racial diversity than any nation in world history. That’s why, despite our faults, we remain the greatest nation that has ever existed, But we shouldn’t turn our back on this ideal in the name of security or racial cohesion or even economic concerns. When we do we lose just a little of our greatness, IMO. If you want to argue that we are better off with the Palestinian State of Dearborn, go right ahead. Just don't act like that is reverting to the good old days. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 2,955 Posted April 15 27 minutes ago, jerryskids said: If you want to argue that we are better off with the Palestinian State of Dearborn, go right ahead. Just don't act like that is reverting to the good old days. Of course we’re better off for having them. It’s not even a question. And yes it’s part of our tradition. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Hunt 154 Posted April 15 6 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Of course we’re better off for having them. It’s not even a question. And yes it’s part of our tradition. Not a fan of the "Death to America" chants in Dearborn. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 5,212 Posted April 15 7 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Of course we’re better off for having them. It’s not even a question. And yes it’s part of our tradition. We've clearly established that it is NOT part of our tradition, so I will give you the benefit of the doubt that you are being obtuse and not stupid. Carry on with Tim World, if you ever want to discuss this in the real world, let me know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 2,955 Posted April 15 Just now, jerryskids said: We've clearly established that it is NOT part of our tradition, so I will give you the benefit of the doubt that you are being obtuse and not stupid. Carry on with Tim World, if you ever want to discuss this in the real world, let me know. I think YOURE being obtuse. I don’t agree with your arguments, though that’s nothing new. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 682 Posted April 15 3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: I think YOURE being obtuse. I don’t agree with your arguments, though that’s nothing new. He tried making the same argument with me, that we don't have a long history or ideals of immigration, then he accused me of drinking, being a liar, and being stupid. Then it was not worth engaging. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 5,212 Posted April 15 2 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: He tried making the same argument with me, that we don't have a long history or ideals of immigration, then he accused me of drinking, being a liar, and being stupid. Then it was not worth engaging. You listened to the same podcast with the same data, and this is your response? And I'm being obtuse. I'm sorry the data doesn't fit your liberal worldview. Carry on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 652 Posted April 15 2 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: then he accused me of drinking I think he said your wife is a drunk, not you. But I think it was directed at Timmay, not you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 5,212 Posted April 15 "Give us your tired, your poor, your huddled white protestants yearning to be free. Oh, and some Chinese slave labor to build the railroads." -- original inscription on the Statue of Liberty Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,664 Posted April 15 Tim thinks Planet Fitness declaring it a no judgement zone is a law. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 3,981 Posted April 15 Denver gonna defund the police and fire departments to help pay for the illegals. Someone tell me why we have to pay for the illegals??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,125 Posted April 15 7 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: Of course we’re better off for having them. It’s not even a question. And yes it’s part of our tradition. Again, it was a very specific congregation of immigrants until 1965. Now all we take is stupid third worlders with dumb religions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 2,529 Posted April 15 3 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said: Again, it was a very specific congregation of immigrants until 1965. Now all we take is stupid third worlders with dumb religions. And their hatred for America. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 652 Posted April 16 22 hours ago, BeachGuy23 said: You are such a cuck I love this for all the Cultist Pedocrat BOYOS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 682 Posted April 16 You guys should like this map Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,385 Posted April 16 How does this even get organized? They just coincidently show up at the same time? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites