Krafty Bob pulls all support for Columbia U.

[edjr 5,587]

4 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I’m getting the sense that, just as with the George Floyd protests of 2020 that were very different from the riots that also occurred, we are not getting the full story here. There are many Jewish students involved in these protests, which are peaceful and not anti-Semitic. And then there are other groups going around spreading hate and violence. Typically conservatives will never distinguish between the two groups (it doesn’t serve them to do so) but thoughtful people should. 

the police haven’t been called/asked to remove them yet. No violence, just a nuisance, what the FOCK are you talking about

[Hardcore troubadour 12,710]

1 minute ago, edjr said:

the police haven’t been called/asked to remove them yet. No violence, just a nuisance, what the FOCK are you talking about

Yeah they were. Then they just came back. 

[edjr 5,587]

6 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Eisenhower sent in the national guard so black kids could safely attend school. Time for Biden to do the same for Jewish students. 

Were they called back? has there been violence ? 

[Hardcore troubadour 12,710]

Just now, edjr said:

Were they called back? has there been violence ? 

They have gone to remote learning. 

[Gepetto 989]

4 hours ago, MDC said:

1) That’s not my mantra.

2) I can’t find anything about this. Was it an anti-Semitic stabbing?

I heard it on the radio. She was stabbed in the eye by someone with a Palestinian flag.

[Mark Davis 181]

8 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I’m getting the sense that, just as with the George Floyd protests of 2020 that were very different from the riots that also occurred, we are not getting the full story here. There are many Jewish students involved in these protests, which are peaceful and not anti-Semitic. And then there are other groups going around spreading hate and violence. Typically conservatives will never distinguish between the two groups (it doesn’t serve them to do so) but thoughtful people should. 

If only this were true I'd feel a lot better about it.  However, when they say they support Hamas, I take them at their word.  Saying you support people who want to wipe a country and race off the planet is not something someone would say if they were just a casual supporter of some benign cause.  At some point there's going to be violence from these folks, if not now, later on a larger scale.  They not only hate you, they hate our entire system and capitalism itself.

[Hardcore troubadour 12,710]

12 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I’m getting the sense that, just as with the George Floyd protests of 2020 that were very different from the riots that also occurred, we are not getting the full story here. There are many Jewish students involved in these protests, which are peaceful and not anti-Semitic. And then there are other groups going around spreading hate and violence. Typically conservatives will never distinguish between the two groups (it doesn’t serve them to do so) but thoughtful people should. 

Sounds like Jan 6

[The Real timschochet 2,992]

7 minutes ago, Mark Davis said:

If only this were true I'd feel a lot better about it.  However, when they say they support Hamas, I take them at their word.  Saying you support people who want to wipe a country and race off the planet is not something someone would say if they were just a casual supporter of some benign cause.  At some point there's going to be violence from these folks, if not now, later on a larger scale.  They not only hate you, they hate our entire system and capitalism itself.

I just heard a couple of the student organizers on MSNBC. They said they do NOT support Hamas, and that they condemn all anti-semitism. They were celebrating the Seder tonight (Passover.) They are opposed to Netanyahu’s regime but not to Israel. 
 

Maybe they are lying for television, who knows? But i suspect this is not as simple as we are being told by some. 

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12 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I just heard a couple of the student organizers on MSNBC. They said they do NOT support Hamas, and that they condemn all anti-semitism. They were celebrating the Seder tonight (Passover.) They are opposed to Netanyahu’s regime but not to Israel. 
 

Maybe they are lying for television, who knows? But i suspect this is not as simple as we are being told by some. 

At the very least, those types are either seriously outnumbered or sitting passively by while the more radicals are taking actions against Jewish people.  Some of the videos from Columbia are pretty damning. 

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3 minutes ago, Mark Davis said:

At the very least, those types are either seriously outnumbered or sitting passively by while the more radicals are taking actions against Jewish people.  Some of the videos from Columbia are pretty damning. 

Sounds mostly peaceful.  We should leave them all there, like the Summer of Love.  That's what a thoughtful poster like Tim would recommend.   

[Hardcore troubadour 12,710]

Shut the gates and leave them in there. Nothing gets in. Now youse can’t leave. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 2,545]

2 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Sounds mostly peaceful.  We should leave them all there, like the Summer of Love.  That's what a thoughtful poster like Tim would recommend.   

Or like the couple of posters at the other forum who - also during the Summer of Love - said they looked out their front window and walked around the block, saw no violence, looting or arson and proclaimed that it wasn't happening. 

[MDC 5,902]

32 minutes ago, Gepetto said:

I heard it on the radio. She was stabbed in the eye by someone with a Palestinian flag.

Can’t find a link.

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36 minutes ago, Gepetto said:

I heard it on the radio. She was stabbed in the eye by someone with a Palestinian flag.

I saw the girl speaking in a television interview about it this morning.  I don't recall the show.  Said when she tried to pursue to identify for the police that the mob cut her off so she couldn't follow enough to keep him within sight.

[jerryskids 5,215]

https://www.thefp.com/p/they-were-assaulted-on-campus-for

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They Were Assaulted on Campus for Being Jews

At Yale, Sahar Tartak was stabbed in the eye. At Columbia, Jonathan Lederer’s Israeli flag was burned and he was hit in the face.

For a second, imagine that black students at Columbia were taunted: Go back to Africa. Or imagine that a gay student was surrounded by homophobic protesters and hit with a stick at Yale University. Or imagine if a campus imam told Muslim students that they ought to head home for Ramadan because campus public safety could not guarantee their security.

There would be relentless fury from our media and condemnation from our politicians.

Just remember the righteous—and rightful—outrage over the white supremacist “Unite the Right” march in Charlottesville, Virginia, in 2017, where neo-Nazis chanted “The Jews will not replace us.” 

This weekend at Columbia and Yale, student demonstrators did all of the above—only it was directed at Jews. They told Columbia students to “go back to Poland.” A Jewish woman at Yale was assaulted with a Palestinian flag. And an Orthodox rabbi at Columbia told students to go home for their safety.

Demonstrators on these campuses shouted more chic versions of “Jews will not replace us.” At Columbia they screamed: “Say it loud and say it clear, we don’t want no Zionists here.” At Yale they blasted bad rap with the following lyrics: 

Fock Israel, Israel a biotch / Biotch we out here mobbin’ on some Palestine shiot / Free Palestine biotch, Israel gon’ die biotch / N**** it’s they land why you out here tryna rob it / Bullshiot prophets, y’all just want the profit

These campus activists are not simply “pro-Palestine” protesters. They are people who are openly celebrating Hamas and physically intimidating identifiably Jewish students who came near. We are publishing the accounts of two of those students—Sahar Tartak and Jonathan Lederer—today.

Students—all of us—have a right to protest. We have a right to protest for dumb causes and horrible causes. At The Free Press, we will always defend that right. (See here and here, for example.)

It is not, however, a First Amendment right to physically attack another person. It is not a First Amendment right to detain another person as part of your protest. And while Americans are constitutionally protected when they say vile things, like wishing upon Jews a thousand October 7s, we are certainly free to criticize those who say them. We are also free to condemn institutions dedicated to the pursuit of truth who have abandoned that mission, and who stand by and do nothing meaningful to stop scenes like the ones of the past 48 hours.

The students who support terror have given in to madness. Refusing to condemn them is madness.

There are courageous students who see that madness clearly. Please read these essays by Jonathan Lederer and Sahar Tartak.

We’ll continue to follow this unfolding story. If you believe in the kind of journalism we do, become a paid subscriber today. — BW

 

[The Real timschochet 2,992]

Well obviously I condemn that. I don’t, however, condemn students who are peacefully protesting against the actions of the current government of Israel. I think it’s possible to distinguish between the two. 
 

Going to a Seder dinner now. Happy Passover! 

[Cdub100 3,390]

Maybe the students are scared the Jews will continue their genocide over here. I'm sure it's hard watching your home blown up and Jews covet the land to build a new settlement.

From the river to the sea

[EternalShinyAndChrome 2,545]

22 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Well obviously I condemn that. I don’t, however, condemn students who are peacefully protesting against the actions of the current government of Israel. I think it’s possible to distinguish between the two. 
 

Going to a Seder dinner now. Happy Passover! 

Except they're not peacefully protesting. 

You said the same f****** thing as protesters burned down cities, looted businesses, assaulted and murdered people during the summer of love. Get the f*** out of here with your fake history.

Your side of the aisle literally had one of your reporters standing in front of a burning neighborhood saying the protesters were peaceful. And you f****** believed it.

[Hardcore troubadour 12,710]

Where’s all that normalcy we were promised? I’m watching the news and it’s starting to look like the summer of 2020. 

[Strike 3,999]

So "peaceful"  Columbia had to go back to remote learning today.  Sooooooooo peaceful........

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Just now, Strike said:

So "peaceful"  Columbia had to go back to remote learning today.  Sooooooooo peaceful........

There should be a volunteer group to escort students to class.  If the odds were a little more level, it would be amazing how paths would open up.  I think over half of them have covid masks on outdoors.  Mental illness running wild out there.

[Hardcore troubadour 12,710]

Just now, Mark Davis said:

There should be a volunteer group to escort students to class.  If the odds were a little more level, it would be amazing how paths would open up.  I think over half of them have covid masks on outdoors.  Mental illness running wild out there.

Those punks aren’t wearing masks because of Covid. 

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5 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Those punks aren’t wearing masks because of Covid. 

In most cases you're probably right.  Even around here though it's shocking to occasionally see people walking outside with them.