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[seafoam1 3,027]

1 minute ago, GutterBoy said:

Well I guess that's a nice baseless opinion.  The European leaders want Biden because they know he supports them and NATO, and they fear Trump/Putin.

You're right I didn't see the Biden decline before 2020, wasn't really paying attention, same way you don't see Trump's decline.

Why are you making shlt up? Is creepy joe finally hurting you that bad?

[jerryskids 6,799]

3 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Well I guess that's a nice baseless opinion.  The European leaders want Biden because they know he supports them and NATO, and they fear Trump/Putin.

You're right I didn't see the Biden decline before 2020, wasn't really paying attention, same way you don't see Trump's decline.

Baseless?  I mean, I haven't talked to any of those three, if that's what you mean.

Also, from your Trump whataboutism, I guess you mean that Biden has a 4 year head start down the road to senility?  Congrats, I guess.   

[GutterBoy 2,899]

4 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Baseless?  I mean, I haven't talked to any of those three, if that's what you mean.

Also, from your Trump whataboutism, I guess you mean that Biden has a 4 year head start down the road to senility?  Congrats, I guess.   

Yes, baseless means you say something with no basis in fact, which I'm sure we can agree that they haven't said this to you nor has it been reported anywhere.  It's a baseless opinion.

[jerryskids 6,799]

1 minute ago, GutterBoy said:

Yes, baseless means you say something with no basis in fact, which I'm sure we can agree that they haven't said this to you nor has it been reported anywhere.  It's a baseless opinion.

That's probably why I said "I do think" instead of presenting it as any kind of fact.

Also you seem quite agitated about this.  Methinks the leftie doth protest too much.

[GutterBoy 2,899]

1 minute ago, jerryskids said:

That's probably why I said "I do think" instead of presenting it as any kind of fact.

Also you seem quite agitated about this.  Methinks the leftie doth protest too much.

Not at all, I just wanted to point out that your opinion was baseless, which if you agreed, I don't know why you took umbrage with that.  Probably some projection going on here.

[Strike 5,551]

3 hours ago, GutterBoy said:

Yup.  Trump and Putin have talked about this.  Trump told Putin that if he wins then the US backs off, and in return Putin is doing everything he can to get Trump into office like 2016.

And people that call themselves "Patriots" support this.

This sure sounds like a baseless opinion

[GutterBoy 2,899]

1 minute ago, Strike said:

This sure sounds like a baseless opinion

No.  We know that Russians influenced the 2016 election.  We saw Trump stand on stage and agree with Putin that he didn't do anything, contradicting our own intelligence that we did.  We have heard Trump praise Putin numerous times.  He said Putin was very smart to invade Ukraine.  Trump said he talked to Putin before the invasion about how it's his life long dream.  Trump said he will end the war immediately.  There are many other examples, which means it's not baseless, it is based in fact.

[Reality 3,121]

1 hour ago, Jose M said:

 

 

It's 25th amendment time, I guess it's nice that a portion of the people, who could no longer cover it up, are finally doing the right thing like our buddy Tapper here....

But...

Who cares about the election, he has absolutely zero business being in the Whitehouse even 1 more minute. It's a security risk, right now.

Kamala is a blithering idiot but, I believe she is at very least, coherent.

[Strike 5,551]

4 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

No.  We know that Russians influenced the 2016 election.  We saw Trump stand on stage and agree with Putin that he didn't do anything, contradicting our own intelligence that we did.  We have heard Trump praise Putin numerous times.  He said Putin was very smart to invade Ukraine.  Trump said he talked to Putin before the invasion about how it's his life long dream.  Trump said he will end the war immediately.  There are many other examples, which means it's not baseless, it is based in fact.

Now you're just making sh*t up.  The only documented involvement with Russians in the 2016 election had to do with Hitlery and the Dems.  That doesn't mean they didn't TRY to influence the election.   But saying Trump had anything to do with that is ridiculous.  If you have PROOF of Trump conspiring with Putin to influence the U.S. Presidential election I'd love to see it.  But you don't because it doesn't exist.  And, of course, the U.S. has been influencing elections all over the world for decades.  You have zero problem with it but when it's "RUSSIA" you go ape sh*t.  You're like Jan Brady screaming "Marcia Marcia Marcia" except your refrain is "Russia Russia Russia!!!!"

[GutterBoy 2,899]

Just now, Strike said:

Now you're just making sh*t up.  The only documented involvement with Russians in the 2016 election had to do with Hitlery and the Dems.  That doesn't mean they didn't TRY to influence the election.   But saying Trump had anything to do with that is ridiculous.  If you have PROOF of Trump conspiring with Putin to influence the U.S. Presidential election I'd love to see it.  But you don't because it doesn't exist.  And, of course, the U.S. has been influencing elections all over the world for decades.  You have zero problem with it but when it's "RUSSIA" you go ape sh*t.  You're like Jan Brady screaming "Marcia Marcia Marcia" except your refrain is "Russia Russia Russia!!!!"

Open your eyes jack ass and take a breath, and reread.  I never said Trump conspired with Putin.  I said Russia interfered, and Trump took the side of Putin over his own intelligence.  And it's in the Muller report that it happened.  Paul Manafort was indicted.

So no, I didn't make anything up.  Facts bro.

[Jose M 125]

4 minutes ago, Strike said:

Now you're just making sh*t up.  The only documented involvement with Russians in the 2016 election had to do with Hitlery and the Dems.  That doesn't mean they didn't TRY to influence the election.   But saying Trump had anything to do with that is ridiculous.  If you have PROOF of Trump conspiring with Putin to influence the U.S. Presidential election I'd love to see it.  But you don't because it doesn't exist.  And, of course, the U.S. has been influencing elections all over the world for decades.  You have zero problem with it but when it's "RUSSIA" you go ape sh*t.  You're like Jan Brady screaming "Marcia Marcia Marcia" except your refrain is "Russia Russia Russia!!!!"

 

[Strike 5,551]

4 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Open your eyes jack ass and take a breath, and reread.  I never said Trump conspired with Putin.  I said Russia interfered, and Trump took the side of Putin over his own intelligence.  And it's in the Muller report that it happened.  Paul Manafort was indicted.

So no, I didn't make anything up.  Facts bro.

No, that's not what you said.  Here is EXACTLY what you said, quoted:

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Trump and Putin have talked about this.  Trump told Putin that if he wins then the US backs off, and in return Putin is doing everything he can to get Trump into office like 2016.

That is 100% different than what you just posted GutterJanBrady.  

[Maximum Overkill 1,992]

Just now, Strike said:

No, that's not what you said.  Here is EXACTLY what you said, quoted:

That is 100% different than what you just posted GutterJanBrady.  

CuckerBoy has spun himself out. He's very confused  

[IGotWorms 4,058]

9 minutes ago, Strike said:

Now you're just making sh*t up.  The only documented involvement with Russians in the 2016 election had to do with Hitlery and the Dems.  That doesn't mean they didn't TRY to influence the election.   But saying Trump had anything to do with that is ridiculous.  If you have PROOF of Trump conspiring with Putin to influence the U.S. Presidential election I'd love to see it.  But you don't because it doesn't exist.  And, of course, the U.S. has been influencing elections all over the world for decades.  You have zero problem with it but when it's "RUSSIA" you go ape sh*t.  You're like Jan Brady screaming "Marcia Marcia Marcia" except your refrain is "Russia Russia Russia!!!!"

 

 

[GutterBoy 2,899]

2 minutes ago, Strike said:

No, that's not what you said.  Here is EXACTLY what you said, quoted:

That is 100% different than what you just posted GutterJanBrady.  

This is a reading problem on your side.  I never said Trump conspired with Putin in 2016.  What I said was Putin is doing everything he can to get Trump into office like 2016, so the same thing he did in 2016.  I'm sorry I can't make it any clearer for you unless I draw a picture.

[Strike 5,551]

3 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

 

 

Do you have a point, or are you trying to support my argument? 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,435]

3 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

This is a reading problem on your side.  I never said Trump conspired with Putin in 2016.  What I said was Putin is doing everything he can to get Trump into office like 2016, so the same thing he did in 2016.  I'm sorry I can't make it any clearer for you unless I draw a picture.

“Everything he can”.  What a clown you are. Sad.  

[Strike 5,551]

1 minute ago, GutterBoy said:

This is a reading problem on your side.  I never said Trump conspired with Putin in 2016.  What I said was Putin is doing everything he can to get Trump into office like 2016, so the same thing he did in 2016.  I'm sorry I can't make it any clearer for you unless I draw a picture.

No, you said Trump and Putin have spoken.  And that if Trump wins the U.S. backs off, and IN RETURN Putin is doing everything he can to get Trump in to office.     Here, let me post your quote again:

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Trump and Putin have talked about this.  Trump told Putin that if he wins then the US backs off, and in return Putin is doing everything he can to get Trump into office like 2016.

Those are YOUR words.  You can try to change the meaning of them now since I'm calling you out but words have meaning and those words are pretty damn clear.  That's "baseless opinion."  Unless of course you have some proof to back it up. 

[IGotWorms 4,058]

Just now, Strike said:

Do you have a point, or are you trying to support my argument? 

Meh, I’m not gonna argue with you. Theres a video of Trump himself trying to get Russia (and other foreign governments, he threw in China too in a different clip) to hack a political opponent for his own gain. I’d call it treasonous.

You've got the Mueller report too and intelligence assessments (which Trump rejected — his own intelligence agencies — in favor of Putin), indictments and prosecutions against certain people for Russia meddling in 2016 election.

You're pretending that doesn’t exist and then calling other people liars and whatever for relying on the fact that this all did happen.

But you know what? It doesn’t matter now anyways. That was 2016, this is 2024. When Trump wins this time, it won’t be because of the Russians, and he won’t even have to lead an attack on the Capitol since he will win, so January 6 basically doesn’t matter either.

It’s a crazy world we’re living in but there you have it.

[Strike 5,551]

3 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Meh, I’m not gonna argue with you. Theres a video of Trump himself trying to get Russia (and other foreign governments, he threw in China too in a different clip) to hack a political opponent for his own gain. I’d call it treasonous.

You've got the Mueller report too and intelligence assessments (which Trump rejected — his own intelligence agencies — in favor of Putin), indictments and prosecutions against certain people for Russia meddling in 2016 election.

You're pretending that doesn’t exist and then calling other people liars and whatever for relying on the fact that this all did happen.

But you know what? It doesn’t matter now anyways. That was 2016, this is 2024. When Trump wins this time, it won’t be because of the Russians, and he won’t even have to lead an attack on the Capitol since he will win, so January 6 basically doesn’t matter either.

It’s a crazy world we’re living in but there you have it.

These the same people who found that Trump paid a Russian prostitute to pee on him? 

[IGotWorms 4,058]

Just now, Strike said:

These the same people who found that Trump paid a Russian prostitute to pee on him? 

Cute

[Strike 5,551]

5 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Meh, I’m not gonna argue with you. Theres a video of Trump himself trying to get Russia (and other foreign governments, he threw in China too in a different clip) to hack a political opponent for his own gain. I’d call it treasonous.

You've got the Mueller report too and intelligence assessments (which Trump rejected — his own intelligence agencies — in favor of Putin), indictments and prosecutions against certain people for Russia meddling in 2016 election.

You're pretending that doesn’t exist and then calling other people liars and whatever for relying on the fact that this all did happen.

But you know what? It doesn’t matter now anyways. That was 2016, this is 2024. When Trump wins this time, it won’t be because of the Russians, and he won’t even have to lead an attack on the Capitol since he will win, so January 6 basically doesn’t matter either.

It’s a crazy world we’re living in but there you have it.

Let me ask you this though.  Do you consider the following statements to be "baseless opinion" or substantiated fact, since you chose to insert yourself in to a discussion that had nothing to do with you:

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Trump and Putin have talked about this.  Trump told Putin that if he wins then the US backs off, and in return Putin is doing everything he can to get Trump into office like 2016.

 

[Reality 3,121]

Gutter, stay down, we all know you're focking pathetic but, this is embarrassing.

[GutterBoy 2,899]

7 minutes ago, Strike said:

No, you said Trump and Putin have spoken.  And that if Trump wins the U.S. backs off, and IN RETURN Putin is doing everything he can to get Trump in to office.     Here, let me post your quote again:

Those are YOUR words.  You can try to change the meaning of them now since I'm calling you out but words have meaning and those words are pretty damn clear.  That's "baseless opinion."  Unless of course you have some proof to back it up. 

Ok now your pivoting.

Fact, we know they spoke, trump said so. Fact, we know that Trump said he'll end the war in one day.

So my opinion that they are working together now is based in fact, not baseless like you said.

Nice try bud.

[GutterBoy 2,899]

12 minutes ago, Strike said:

These the same people who found that Trump paid a Russian prostitute to pee on him? 

Not the same people, that was the Steele dossier.  Damn kid you really don't know much about this

[Strike 5,551]

2 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Ok now your pivoting.

Fact, we know they spoke, trump said so. Fact, we know that Trump said he'll end the war in one day.

So my opinion that they are working together now is based in fact, not baseless like you said.

Nice try bud.

We know they spoke?  When did they speak?  I've asked you multiple times for PROOF.  Facts are usually pretty easy to prove.  If you've got them, go ahead and post them.   TIA Jan.

[Strike 5,551]

6 minutes ago, Reality said:

Gutter, stay down, we all know you're focking pathetic but, this is embarrassing.

Seriously.  It's not like there's much ambiguity in the following statements:

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Trump and Putin have talked about this.  Trump told Putin that if he wins then the US backs off, and in return Putin is doing everything he can to get Trump into office like 2016.

 

[GutterBoy 2,899]

5 minutes ago, Strike said:

We know they spoke?  When did they speak?  I've asked you multiple times for PROOF.  Facts are usually pretty easy to prove.  If you've got them, go ahead and post them.   TIA Jan.

 

[seafoam1 3,027]

Just now, GutterBoy said:

 

[Jose M 125]

Hey guys it's not collusion!   They just talked about it and agreed they were both going to do things after it happened!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Strike 5,551]

1 minute ago, GutterBoy said:

 

 

Nothing in your clip says the following:

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Trump told Putin that if he wins then the US backs off, and in return Putin is doing everything he can to get Trump into office like 2016.

 

OMG Trump spoke to Putin!!!!  Why would a former President, and likely NEXT President, talk to another world leader?  I'm shocked, shocked I tell you, that that happened!!!  But there are no details.   We don't know when or why, have zero context.  That's weak.  I asked for proof of your assertions detailed, AGAIN, in the above quote.  Do you have that proof or don't you? 

[Maximum Overkill 1,992]

CuckerBoy is so stupid.  

Everyone and their Grandmother knew it was going to happen once Biden became President. Biden had plenty of time to diffuse the situation but he didn't. 

[GutterBoy 2,899]

1 minute ago, Strike said:

 

Nothing in your clip says the following:

 

OMG Trump spoke to Putin!!!!  Why would a former President, and likely NEXT President, talk to another world leader?  I'm shocked, shocked I tell you, that that happened!!!  But there are no details.   We don't know when or why, have zero context.  That's weak.  I asked for proof of your assertions detailed, AGAIN, in the above quote.  Do you have that proof or don't you? 

Pivot again.

I never claimed to have proof of my opinion.  It is in fact my opinion, and it's based it facts, all the facts that you asked for and I gave you.  So no, it's not a baseless opinion like you originally said.  Keep trying but you're failing.

 

[Strike 5,551]

1 minute ago, GutterBoy said:

Pivot again.

I never claimed to have proof of my opinion.  It is in fact my opinion, and it's based it facts, all the facts that you asked for and I gave you.  So no, it's not a baseless opinion like you originally said.  Keep trying but you're failing.

 

This is a flat out lie.  The ONLY fact you've given me is that clip that says Trump spoke to Putin, which would not be unexpected of world leaders.  You have not posted any facts that suggest anything else in the quote I've posted at least 5 times.  So you don't have those facts, and now you're lying about having posted them because I've made you look stupid.  Got it.

[Engorgeous George 2,331]

4 hours ago, thegeneral said:

Putin knows if Trump wins the weapons to Ukraine are done. That is the secret plan that will have the war “over in 24 hours”.

Zelensky has to know this too. 

Some of you all may be too young to remember, but Nixon, too, had a secret plan.

[Jose M 125]

7 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

 

Hey DrJack!  Anyone with a remote knowledge of Russian history and the European geopolitical climate knows Putin wanted Ukraine, you don't actually need get him drunk for him to spill the secret.  

 

[Jose M 125]

No amount of mental gymnastics, unless you're a midget, can explain why Putin waited for Biden to invade Ukraine if you thought Putin and Trump were in cahoots with each other. 

[GutterBoy 2,899]

7 minutes ago, Strike said:

This is a flat out lie.  The ONLY fact you've given me is that clip that says Trump spoke to Putin, which would not be unexpected of world leaders.  You have not posted any facts that suggest anything else in the quote I've posted at least 5 times.  So you don't have those facts, and now you're lying about having posted them because I've made you look stupid.  Got it.

Trump is not a world leader, he holds no office.  They spoke before the invasion, fact.  Russia interfered in 2016, fact.  Trump said he will end the war, fact.  Have a good night strike, we're done here.

[IGotWorms 4,058]

36 minutes ago, Strike said:

Let me ask you this though.  Do you consider the following statements to be "baseless opinion" or substantiated fact, since you chose to insert yourself in to a discussion that had nothing to do with you:

 

But that wasn’t what I was responding to.

I guess you got caught with your pants down and now you want to pivot?

To answer the question though, I have no idea whether Trump has spoken to Putin about the 2024 election or what was said if he has.

[Jose M 125]

1 minute ago, GutterBoy said:

Trump is not a world leader, he holds no office.  They spoke before the invasion, fact.  Russia interfered in 2016, fact.  Trump said he will end the war, fact.  Have a good night strike, we're done here.

Weaklings always run away.