Harrison Butker, geek club hero

[jerryskids 6,790]

1 minute ago, BeachGuy23 said:

Did you just put forth as an argument that trad cath was practiced for 2000k years until 1965?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA'

Riddle me this Mr. Patent, do you believe the cult member Butker's social views are consistent with say THE POPE?

Good gravy you'll argue any point.  What's weird is that you don't seem to understand how you come off sounding like a moron.

Trad Caths do not represent the views of the vast majority of Catholics today.  65 years ago yes.  When blacks couldn't drink out of white water fountains and men could beat their women if they wanted.

GREAT TIMES!

Many Catholics disagree with the Pope and want a more conservative Church, not just Trad Catholics.  It's been in the news and everything just this week.

https://www.newsweek.com/pope-risks-fury-conservative-bishops-border-comments-1902520

Trad Catholic talking to Catholics is like atheist talking to a Christian school.  Perfect analogy.  SMH

Yip yip.

Hmm... yup...

[GutterBoy 2,899]

6 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

It’s a bad message when you’re there to celebrate their educational achievements and professional futures. Yes

The graduating females in the audience didn't like it.  But leave it to the males here to tell the women that their feelings don't matter and that is was a good speech for them to listen to.

[jerryskids 6,790]

3 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

It’s a bad message when you’re there to celebrate their educational achievements and professional futures. Yes

Ehhh... again, I think he could have done it better.  Instead of coming off as "you should" he could have been more "I hope you become open to, if not now, then later in life."

I think my story is a great example.  My wife graduated, got a job, we met at work.  We mutually decided for her to stay home with the kids.  Much later we had some financial issues, and the kids were older, and she went back to work.  Now, I've retired because of my cancer and she is our primary earner.  Her college education gave her the flexibility to focus on career or family based on our situation.  That IMO is true feminism, true freedom for a woman.

[jerryskids 6,790]

4 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

The graduating females in the audience didn't like it.  But leave it to the males here to tell the women that their feelings don't matter and that is was a good speech for them to listen to.

All of them?  Or that one TikTok video.  Didn't she say something about 10 of them not clapping, or walking out?  I forget exactly.  But my impression was that most of the people in the audience applauded.

[BeachGuy23 642]

5 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Many Catholics disagree with the Pope and want a more conservative Church, not just Trad Catholics.  It's been in the news and everything just this week.

https://www.newsweek.com/pope-risks-fury-conservative-bishops-border-comments-1902520

Trad Catholic talking to Catholics is like atheist talking to a Christian school.  Perfect analogy.  SMH

Yip yip.

Hmm... yup...

Holy phuk you argue like a woman.  Now you're stuck on an analogy I threw in at the last minute to give you some idea of how a cult member talking about women being beholden to men at a college graduation was tone deaf.

And no boyo, the vast majority of catholics approve of the Pope and understand that going backwards socially ain't how progress is made.

"A new Pew Research Center survey finds that 75% of U.S. Catholics view Pope Francis favorably, down 8 percentage points since we last asked this question in 2021 and 15 points below his peak favorability rating, which was 90% in early 2015."

https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2024/04/12/majority-of-u-s-catholics-express-favorable-view-of-pope-francis/#:~:text=Read the questions used in,was 90% in early 2015.

Can you give us the numbers of the patents you authored so we can all steer clear of any products that you may have actually been involved in designing.

Cause you dumb AF which is why you made your living not with your brain but by getting hammered with customers.

Strong strong life's work boyo...

[BeachGuy23 642]

Just now, jerryskids said:

All of them?  Or that one TikTok video.  Didn't she say something about 10 of them not clapping, or walking out?  I forget exactly.  But my impression was that most of the people in the audience applauded.

Oh chit people clapped when he was done?

Well that settles it, they just LOVED the message.  Unless boos and tomatoes rained down everyone loved the speech...

HFS

[jerryskids 6,790]

1 minute ago, BeachGuy23 said:

Holy phuk you argue like a woman.  Now you're stuck on an analogy I threw in at the last minute to give you some idea of how a cult member talking about women being beholden to men at a college graduation was tone deaf.

And no boyo, the vast majority of catholics approve of the Pope and understand that going backwards socially ain't how progress is made.

"A new Pew Research Center survey finds that 75% of U.S. Catholics view Pope Francis favorably, down 8 percentage points since we last asked this question in 2021 and 15 points below his peak favorability rating, which was 90% in early 2015."

https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2024/04/12/majority-of-u-s-catholics-express-favorable-view-of-pope-francis/#:~:text=Read the questions used in,was 90% in early 2015.

Can you give us the numbers of the patents you authored so we can all steer clear of any products that you may have actually been involved in designing.

Cause you dumb AF which is why you made your living not with your brain but by getting hammered with customers.

Strong strong life's work boyo...

I literally responded only to your analogy, and that threw you into this ongoing tizzy where you are spewing diarrhea from your fingers yet again, BeachBlade.

Hmm... yup...

[BeachGuy23 642]

4 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Ehhh... again, I think he could have done it better.  Instead of coming off as "you should" he could have been more "I hope you become open to, if not now, then later in life."

I think my story is a great example.  My wife graduated, got a job, we met at work.  We mutually decided for her to stay home with the kids.  Much later we had some financial issues, and the kids were older, and she went back to work.  Now, I've retired because of my cancer and she is our primary earner.  Her college education gave her the flexibility to focus on career or family based on our situation.  That IMO is true feminism, true freedom for a woman.

That is all anyone is saying.  Rather than dictating to the lowly women like he was (he's a man after all, they're just women) he could have phrase the same ideas in a different way but christian cultist think they know what's best for you and your family so that's the narrative they push.

[jerryskids 6,790]

2 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said:

Oh chit people clapped when he was done?

Well that settles it, they just LOVED the message.  Unless boos and tomatoes rained down everyone loved the speech...

HFS

Should I ask Gutter for his PROOF that all of the women in the audience hated it?   

Hmm... yup...

[BeachGuy23 642]

1 minute ago, jerryskids said:

I literally responded only to your analogy, and that threw you into this ongoing tizzy where you are spewing diarrhea from your fingers yet again, BeachBlade.

Hmm... yup...

LMFAO

You are so high Estrogen, holy phuk you argue like a chick.  My analogy was a throw away, meant nothing to the comments that I backed up with facts and data.

100% chance you have man bewbs...LMFAO

[Strike 5,536]

Geez.  People weren't this up in arms when Thornton Melon told the graduating class to stay at home with their parents!!!!

[jerryskids 6,790]

3 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said:

LMFAO

You are so high Estrogen, holy phuk you argue like a chick.  My analogy was a throw away, meant nothing to the comments that I backed up with facts and data.

100% chance you have man bewbs...LMFAO

I argue like a chick?  One of us took a comment about your analogy sucking and threw a bunch of shiot at the wall hoping something would stick.  That, my lady, is how a chick argues.

[BeachGuy23 642]

Just now, jerryskids said:

I argue like a chick?  One of us took a comment about your analogy sucking and threw a bunch of shiot at the wall hoping something would stick.  That, my lady, is how a chick argues.

The analogy had nothing to do with what I'm arguing moron.  I could go back and delete it and still make my points.

The girl in the room (you) for some feminine reason latched onto it and decided to act like it was the central point I was trying to make.

HFS

[jerryskids 6,790]

7 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said:

The analogy had nothing to do with what I'm arguing moron.  I could go back and delete it and still make my points.

The girl in the room (you) for some feminine reason latched onto it and decided to act like it was the central point I was trying to make.

HFS

A man, when shown that his analogy sucked, would have said something like "yeah, that wasn't great, I only did it as part of being a pseud and desperately needing to feel that my Leftie clique is superior to others.  But my other points still stand."  Then I could have chosen to discuss your other points.

Instead, you argued that a Trad Catholic talking to Catholics is a perfect analogy to an atheist talking to a Christian college, then spew a bunch of other stuff like a chick does in an argument.

[GutterBoy 2,899]

24 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

All of them?  Or that one TikTok video.  Didn't she say something about 10 of them not clapping, or walking out?  I forget exactly.  But my impression was that most of the people in the audience applauded.

Here's several female graduates speaking out against Butker: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/students-speak-harrison-butkers-uncomfortable-commencement-speech-rcna152789

And here's the nuns from the school taking issue: https://www.kcur.org/sports/2024-05-19/benedictine-college-nuns-denounce-harrison-butkers-speech-at-their-school

But women just don't know any better, right?

[TimHauck 2,858]

1 hour ago, jerryskids said:

We've discussed the TLM; what is your hangup with this?  He is a Catholic talking to Catholics.  He wasn't talking to you.

Also, amazing that this gets 16 pages while by far the worst speech of the week -- Biden telling Morehouse graduates that their country hates them -- gets barely a blip.

 

And even among Catholics he was saying it was a “necessity.”  Like I said when I first brought it up, it’s just another example of why I thought pretty much the whole speech was disingenuous.  He tries to pass off his comments as just giving his opinion while simultaneously making comments that suggest his opinion is superior.

Edit: Trump’s entire campaign slogan is saying our country wasn’t great, what’s your point?

 

[GutterBoy 2,899]

23 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Should I ask Gutter for his PROOF that all of the women in the audience hated it?   

Hmm... yup...

Except I never said that, you did.  You can't get anything straight these days.  Maybe if Tiktok was included....

[GutterBoy 2,899]

1 hour ago, jerryskids said:

Biden telling Morehouse graduates that their country hates them -- gets barely a blip.

 

Another lie.  You alright?

[TimHauck 2,858]

1 hour ago, jerryskids said:

Sorry, but your analogy sucks.  He is a Catholic, he spoke at a Catholic school, and the message of his speech was to embrace Catholicism.

Serious question, maybe it’s a yes: does Catholicism recommend being a homemaker?

[GutterBoy 2,899]

7 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

like a chick does in an argument.

Fitting that you're using female as a derogatory in the thread about how a women's value is taking care of a man.

[TimHauck 2,858]

1 hour ago, Engorgeous George said:

I would venture to guess that more than 9 out of 10 persons posting in this thread had a mother.

A stay at home mother?

[TBayXXXVII 2,545]

50 minutes ago, MDC said:

Butler’s jersey becomes best seller on the Chiefs after his speech.

Imagine buying a kicker’s jersey because he said women find motherhood more fulfilling than careers.  

Imagine criticizing a man for celebrating his religious beliefs, at a religious school, in a country that was built on religious freedom. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,414]

Glad to see all of our super successful titans of industry and business are hard at work again. 

[TimHauck 2,858]

1 hour ago, Engorgeous George said:

Dude was like Hhey, look at this path over here.  I bet many of you re excited about walking down this path."  I don't see how that upsets those intending to walk another path.

Except that’s not what he said.  He said they had been told “diabological lies” about that path over here

[MDC 7,407]

2 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Imagine criticizing a man for celebrating his religious beliefs, at a religious school, in a country that was built on religious freedom. 

Butker jersey going for $130 at the NFL store.  

[TimHauck 2,858]

1 hour ago, squistion said:

https://x.com/TheDailyShow/status/1792979565679128989

"Enjoy the PTA bitches" is not the thing graduates want to hear at graduation. @jonstewart on Harrison Butker

Stewart nailed that whole segment about right wing media (fake) “outrage”

 

[Cdub100 3,903]

Liberals are still mad someone celebrated homemakers. 

[jerryskids 6,790]

6 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Fitting that you're using female as a derogatory in the thread about how a women's value is taking care of a man.

That was in response to him calling me a chick.  Are you extra dense today?

[TBayXXXVII 2,545]

3 minutes ago, MDC said:

Butker jersey going for $130 at the NFL store.  

I wouldn't pay that for a Mahomes jersey.

[jerryskids 6,790]

10 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Another lie.  You alright?

True.  Here were his exact words:

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It’s natural to wonder if democracy you hear about actually works for you. 

What is democracy if Black men are being killed in the street? 

What is democracy if a trail of broken promises still leave Black -- Black communities behind? 

What is democracy if you have to be 10 times better than anyone else to get a fair shot? 

And most of all, what does it mean, as we’ve heard before, to be a Black man who loves his country even if it doesn’t love him back in equal measure?  (Applause.)

You win, it's much better.   

[GutterBoy 2,899]

2 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

That was in response to him calling me a chick.  Are you extra dense today?

He's a doosh too.

[BeachGuy23 642]

8 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Fitting that you're using female as a derogatory in the thread about how a women's value is taking care of a man.

Know what you're right.  Women deserve more respect then to be lumped in with anal retentive, facts constantly wrong jackholes like Jerry.

Dude literally argued that Biden changed his stance on Israel due to protests and backed it with "facts" from an opinion piece.  He then spent a whole day arguing that tik tok users were excluded from a survey when they were clearly included.

Other than all the patents he's responsible for because he's so gosh darn smart and successful WTF does Jerry bring to any conversation other than being wrong every time?

 

[TimHauck 2,858]

5 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

True.  Here were his exact words:

You win, it's much better.   

There you go doing the same thing you were accusing us of doing to Butker again

[jerryskids 6,790]

6 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

He's a doosh too.

Yet you called me out.

Seriously, what's happened to you?  You used to be smart and witty.  Now you troll around supporting a 60 IQ reject from FBGs.  

I made the mistake of engaging with BeachBlade by telling him, rightfully so, that his analogy sucked.  Like I said earlier, he is a yip yip special needs dog who just keeps spewing shiot thinking that volume of diarrhea makes him correct.  I'll think hard about it in the future.

I'm going to respond to @TimHauck because we are having an adult conversation, then I'm moving on because I have some things to do.  As opposed to, apparently, a VP of corporate finance for a large company.

Carry on.

[TimHauck 2,858]

11 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

True.  Here were his exact words:

You win, it's much better.   

But anyway I don’t see much issue with this comment.  Overall his speech seemed fine, albeit a little race-baity.  But like Butker speaking at a Catholic school, he was speaking at an all-male HBCU, so that’s not too surprising IMO.

The one comment I take issue with is him blaming white supremacy for “black men being killed on the streets.”

[jerryskids 6,790]

22 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Serious question, maybe it’s a yes: does Catholicism recommend being a homemaker?

I had to look it up.  Short answer is:  kinda, maybe, if you can make it work.

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“The Church does not teach that women are committing a mortal sin if they work outside the home—specifically moms. Sometimes it’s a matter of necessity—you just don’t have a choice. … But it often happens that because of financial necessity … mom does some work outside the home to make ends meet. There’s nothing whatsoever wrong with that,” explained Patrick.

If a mother chooses to work outside the home and there is no serious financial reason for her to do so, does she have a heightened obligation to stay home? “This is where there is a bit of a gray area,” says Patrick. “The Church does teach as a general precept that parents are obliged and we have this serious duty before God to do everything we can within our abilities and to the extent that we know better, to do everything we can to see to the upbringing of our children.”

https://relevantradio.com/2019/09/should-catholic-moms-stay-at-home-not-necessarily/#:~:text=“The Church does not teach,home to make ends meet.

That same link also calls for fathers to be engaged with their families, as Butker did in his speech.

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The same could be said for dads and a host of various situations. “The Church doesn’t say that you can’t go to, I don’t know, like, a bingo parlor. But if dad, after work, has a gambling addiction and he goes to the bingo parlor and he’s gambling and gambling and not only losing the family’s money but also he’s spending time away from his wife and children to their detriment—he’s committing a sin,” explains Patrick. The Church doesn’t say that having a job or going to a bar are sinful, but they could be the means by which a sin—such as neglecting one’s duty to one’s family—is committed.

The above is not an official statement from the Church of course.

[jerryskids 6,790]

9 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

There you go doing the same thing you were accusing us of doing to Butker again

What's that?  Picking one thing out of a speech?

[TimHauck 2,858]

2 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

What's that?  Picking one thing out of a speech?

Saying he said something that he really didn’t

 

edit:  sorry I probably shouldn’t have said “again.”  That was mostly @Cdub100 and @EternalShinyAndChrome before

[jerryskids 6,790]

10 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

But anyway I don’t see much issue with this comment.  Overall his speech seemed fine, albeit a little race-baity.  But like Butker speaking at a Catholic school, he was speaking at an all-male HBCU, so that’s not too surprising IMO.

The one comment I take issue with is him blaming white supremacy for “black men being killed on the streets.”

 

5 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Saying he said something that he really didn’t

 

edit:  sorry I probably shouldn’t have said “again.”  That was mostly @Cdub100 and @EternalShinyAndChrome before

I already admitted that.  So I guess we are talking apathy (lack of love) vs. hatred?

You have no problem with the POTUS telling graduates that the country they love does not love them back in equal measure?

[Cdub100 3,903]

3 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Saying he said something that he really didn’t

 

edit:  sorry I probably shouldn’t have said “again.”  That was mostly @Cdub100 and @EternalShinyAndChrome before

Dude, we get it you and your liberal friends hate women. You're trying to replace them in sports, you let men into their changing rooms, and call mothers "birthing persons". You try and force everyone to call mentally ill men women. It's painfully obvious and disgusting what your side is doing.

Give it a rest all ready.