Did We Just Witness a Coup?

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,863]

9 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

So The New York Times is legit now?

 

You MAGAs are fickle

So now the New York Times ISN'T legit now?

You liberal cultists are fickle

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15 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

So now the New York Times ISN'T legit now?

You liberal cultists are fickle

I prefer the Mississippi Magnolia Tribune myself.  They seem to on top of things. 

[The Real timschochet 6,472]

Maureen Dowd uses the word “coup” rather liberally. In Latin America, a coup is when a leader is forced out by gunpoint, on pain of death, etc. 

In this case strong pressure was put on Biden to withdraw from the race, but in the end it was his decision. He wasn’t blackmailed, wasn’t threatened with anything other than embarrassment and potentially a spoiled legacy. Nothing illegal occurred. So the answer to the question of the title of this thread is still no, whatever Maureen Dowd thinks. There was no coup. 

 

[Reality 3,105]

29 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

So now the New York Times ISN'T legit now?

You liberal cultists are fickle

We didn't need the NYT to tell us it was a coup. Of course, we aren't retarded, anybody with an ounce of common sense, already knew. 

Can't speak for the others here. Just be thankful you don't have to deal with dipshlts like the dude you quoted in every day real life. I couldn't imagine somebody actually being that focking stupid but, here we are.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,966]

3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Maureen Dowd uses the word “coup” rather liberally. In Latin America, a coup is when a leader is forced out by gunpoint, on pain of death, etc. 

In this case strong pressure was put on Biden to withdraw from the race, but in the end it was his decision. He wasn’t blackmailed, wasn’t threatened with anything other than embarrassment and potentially a spoiled legacy. Nothing illegal occurred. So the answer to the question of the title of this thread is still no, whatever Maureen Dowd thinks. There was no coup. 

 

If Obama was involved with using the 25th amendment as a threat there certainly was a law broken. If. I’d bet it was. 

[Reality 3,105]

9 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

He wasn’t blackmailed, wasn’t threatened with anything other than embarrassment and potentially a spoiled legacy. Nothing illegal occurred. So the answer to the question of the title of this thread is still no

You don't know any of this, stop stating it as if it's fact. It's what you wish happened.

Your own media is telling you what happened.

 

[The Real timschochet 6,472]

9 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

If Obama was involved with using the 25th amendment as a threat there certainly was a law broken. If. I’d bet it was. 

I don’t believe that happened. If you or anyone can provide evidence that it did I will certainly reconsider my opinion on this entire matter. But as of now I don’t believe it. 
What Pelosi (and perhaps Obama) threatened to do was come forward publicly and call on Biden to withdraw. Up to that point they hadn’t done so. To do so would have been a major embarrassment to Biden. That’s what Pelosi meant by doing it “the hard way.” But it was still Joe’s decision. 

[The Real timschochet 6,472]

3 minutes ago, Reality said:

You don't know any of this, stop stating it as if it's fact. It's what you wish happened.

Your own media is telling you what happened.

 

No, my own media has reported exactly what I wrote and Dowd uses words and phrases and implications in her opinion piece I disagree with. 
If you have real evidence to contradict what I wrote please provide it. 

[seafoam1 2,808]

19 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Maureen Dowd uses the word “coup” rather liberally. In Latin America, a coup is when a leader is forced out by gunpoint, on pain of death, etc. 

In this case strong pressure was put on Biden to withdraw from the race, but in the end it was his decision. He wasn’t blackmailed, wasn’t threatened with anything other than embarrassment and potentially a spoiled legacy. Nothing illegal occurred. So the answer to the question of the title of this thread is still no, whatever Maureen Dowd thinks. There was no coup. 

 

"Spoiled LEGACY". 

Shlt economy, open borders, foreign wars, tranny revolution and this...

 

[Sean Mooney 1,949]

48 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

So now the New York Times ISN'T legit now?

You liberal cultists are fickle

The NY Times is always legit. Maureen Dowd is a columnist inside the paper. You know that whole thing about "the views expressed do not represent the opinion of the paper as a whole."?

 

She's within her right to feel it is a coup however. But I'm glad we are determining the NY Times is legit from MAGA land....I'm sure it will not change back at any point. 

20 minutes ago, Reality said:

We didn't need the NYT to tell us it was a coup. Of course, we aren't retarded, anybody with an ounce of common sense, already knew. 

Can't speak for the others here. Just be thankful you don't have to deal with dipshlts like the dude you quoted in every day real life. I couldn't imagine somebody actually being that focking stupid but, here we are.

Your entire posting history contradicts this point about yourself. 

Also, don't be a puss and passive aggressively post at me. Be the man you think you are and do it directly. 

[seafoam1 2,808]

1 minute ago, Sean Mooney said:

The NY Times is always legit. Maureen Dowd is a columnist inside the paper. You know that whole thing about "the views expressed do not represent the opinion of the paper as a whole."?

 

She's within her right to feel it is a coup however. But I'm glad we are determining the NY Times is legit from MAGA land....I'm sure it will not change back at any point. 

Your entire posting history contradicts this point about yourself. 

Also, don't be a puss and passive aggressively post at me. Be the man you think you are and do it directly. 

Says the shemale. 

[Reality 3,105]

8 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

No, my own media has reported exactly what I wrote and Dowd uses words and phrases and implications in her opinion piece I disagree with. 
If you have real evidence to contradict what I wrote please provide it. 

He was a forced out. I'm sorry you can't handle the truth.

[Sean Mooney 1,949]

1 minute ago, Reality said:

He was a forced out. I'm sorry you can't handle the truth.

Honestly who cares if he was or wasn't.....you wanted that and cried on here for weeks and months about him being President. They wipe him way from running and you cry about that.

Is it really because you felt Biden was easier to beat than Harris?

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,863]

1 hour ago, Sean Mooney said:

The NY Times is always legit. Maureen Dowd is a columnist inside the paper. You know that whole thing about "the views expressed do not represent the opinion of the paper as a whole."?

 

She's within her right to feel it is a coup however. But I'm glad we are determining the NY Times is legit from MAGA land....I'm sure it will not change back at any point. 

Your entire posting history contradicts this point about yourself. 

Also, don't be a puss and passive aggressively post at me. Be the man you think you are and do it directly. 

Passive aggressive? 

I LITERALLY responded to your very post you whiny biatch.  I simply turned your words back on to you.

I don't think you know what passive aggressive means. 

Don't be a dipsh#t.

[Sean Mooney 1,949]

1 hour ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Passive aggressive? 

I LITERALLY responded to your very post you whiny biatch.  I simply turned your words back on to you.

I don't think you know what passive aggressive means. 

Don't be a dipsh#t.

I wasn't speaking to you at that part. I was speaking to Reality.

Look at the post...that second quote break is a different person's post. 

You don't have to go 0 to 60 always

[5-Points 3,399]

2 hours ago, Sean Mooney said:

Honestly who cares if he was or wasn't.....you wanted that and cried on here for weeks and months about him being President. They wipe him way from running and you cry about that.

Is it really because you felt Biden was easier to beat than Harris?

Are you serious? 

The dems have been saying Trump will bring about the end of democracy for years now. 

Then they turn around and force their own nominee out, via a letter on X that he didn't write or sign btw, and install a different "nominee" for POTUS that nobody voted for. 

Apparently you guys don't care as much about democracy as you previously pretended. 

 

[Sean Mooney 1,949]

8 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

Are you serious? 

The dems have been saying Trump will bring about the end of democracy for years now. 

Then they turn around and force their own nominee out, via a letter on X that he didn't write or sign btw, and install a different "nominee" for POTUS that nobody voted for. 

Apparently you guys don't care as much about democracy as you previously pretended. 

 

His letter that was put out on July 21st had

1.) His name in big bold letters at the top

2.) by all accounts was written by him

3.) Was signed by him at the end

Additionally- people voted for the Biden/Harris ticket in 2020 so in a roundabout way yes Harris was voted for. They ran a Democratic primary and Biden won it. When it became clear he was not the best person to be running or was perhaps diminished (something people on the right were railing about) he stepped aside. 

 

Look the way this all happened is strange and obviously not common in politics but I think if you were saying he should quit and then he does you don't have the right to be complaining. 

[Reality 3,105]

9 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

Are you serious? 

The dems have been saying Trump will bring about the end of democracy for years now. 

Then they turn around and force their own nominee out, via a letter on X that he didn't write or sign btw, and install a different "nominee" for POTUS that nobody voted for. 

Apparently you guys don't care as much about democracy as you previously pretended. 

 

Yup.

[thegeneral 2,953]

So Biden did sign or write this letter. Like they just did it and didn’t tell him

[seafoam1 2,808]

8 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

So Biden did sign or write this letter. Like they just did it and didn’t tell him

creepy joe is busy. 

 

[5-Points 3,399]

5 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

His letter that was put out on July 21st had

1.) His name in big bold letters at the top

2.) by all accounts was written by him

3.) Was signed by him at the end

Additionally- people voted for the Biden/Harris ticket in 2020 so in a roundabout way yes Harris was voted for. They ran a Democratic primary and Biden won it. When it became clear he was not the best person to be running or was perhaps diminished (something people on the right were railing about) he stepped aside. 

 

Look the way this all happened is strange and obviously not common in politics but I think if you were saying he should quit and then he does you don't have the right to be complaining. 

The letter on X was not on Presidential letterhead, was not written by him and was not signed by him. 

Don't you think that when a Presidential  nominee decides to step down that mebbe a press conference is called for, rather than a social media post? 

Everybody knew he wasn't up to the job. The fact that he couldn't keep it together until after the election is not a shock to anyone who had been paying attention. I said from day one that he wouldn't make it through a full term. Turns out I was right. 

That doesn't excuse the Dem attempt at gaslighting half the country into believing he was of sound mind and capable of serving another 4 years. They should have admitted the obvious, held a primary, and allowed the electorate to have a voice. You know, democracy. 

I have every right to complain about the democrat party refusing to allow the democratic process to take place. Especially after the last 4 years of their buIIshit. 

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12 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

So Biden did sign or write this letter. Like they just did it and didn’t tell him

That's exactly what they did. 

[thegeneral 2,953]

1 minute ago, 5-Points said:

That's exactly what they did. 

Sure!

[5-Points 3,399]

4 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Sure!

Stevie Wonder could see that wasn't Joe Biden's signature on that letter. 

 

[seafoam1 2,808]

5 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Sure!

OMG!! So surprising biden doesn't know what the fock he was doing in office!! 

 

[purdygood 335]

Just now, 5-Points said:

Stevie Wonder could see that wasn't Joe Biden's signature on that letter. 

 

The one conspiracy theory i actually believe is that Stevie Wonder has been faking it this whole time. 

[seafoam1 2,808]

1 minute ago, purdygood said:

The one conspiracy theory i actually believe is that Stevie Wonder has been faking it this whole time. 

Well, you have severe TDS so...

[purdygood 335]

2 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

Well, you have severe TDS so...

The only TDS is people like you who are Totally D Sucking Donald. Well you and Stormy. 

[Sean Mooney 1,949]

20 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

The letter on X was not on Presidential letterhead, was not written by him and was not signed by him. 

Don't you think that when a Presidential  nominee decides to step down that mebbe a press conference is called for, rather than a social media post? 

Everybody knew he wasn't up to the job. The fact that he couldn't keep it together until after the election is not a shock to anyone who had been paying attention. I said from day one that he wouldn't make it through a full term. Turns out I was right. 

That doesn't excuse the Dem attempt at gaslighting half the country into believing he was of sound mind and capable of serving another 4 years. They should have admitted the obvious, held a primary, and allowed the electorate to have a voice. You know, democracy. 

I have every right to complain about the democrat party refusing to allow the democratic process to take place. Especially after the last 4 years of their buIIshit. 

So your argument is: The Democratic Party just unilaterally wrote a letter saying Biden wasn't writing for President, wrote out a bunch of things thanking the people, signed his name at the bottom and Biden knew nothing about it?

And he did a speech later that week and has done interviews since. I'm sorry he hasn't done what you wanted.

Perhaps the reality of the situation wasn't clear to people in the party until the debate. Like they thought he could rally one last time and the debate made it clear he couldn't. When that happened they looked to move on. Biden to his credit stepped aside. Maybe he thought he could still do it and the debate made him realize he was in trouble. Additionally, he wanted to be President forever and there was a lot of talk he regretted not running in 2016 and letting Hillary have the spot. privately he blamed himself for Trump being President in the first place.

The real thing here is- Republicans thought Trump would walk over Biden to the presidency (and probably rightfully so). But then Biden stepped aside and Trump has stumbled for a month now to find a way to attack Kamala. Meanwhile Trump is stumbling through his own speeches like a raving lunatic meaning at the very least that this race will be a toss up again. 

And it doesn't seem like the Democrats (who you are trying to stand up for) care all that much about thee switch as the engagement for Kamala is through the roof right now.

 

 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,966]

Mooney gettin upset! Fockin hilarious!!!  Lol. 

[Sean Mooney 1,949]

3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Mooney gettin upset! Fockin hilarious!!!  Lol. 

Says the guy who rails about George Clooney on here

And of course none of what you said even tries to refute what I said cause you have nothing- no comeback, no brain, nothing. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,966]

19 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

So your argument is: The Democratic Party just unilaterally wrote a letter saying Biden wasn't writing for President, wrote out a bunch of things thanking the people, signed his name at the bottom and Biden knew nothing about it?

And he did a speech later that week and has done interviews since. I'm sorry he hasn't done what you wanted.

Perhaps the reality of the situation wasn't clear to people in the party until the debate. Like they thought he could rally one last time and the debate made it clear he couldn't. When that happened they looked to move on. Biden to his credit stepped aside. Maybe he thought he could still do it and the debate made him realize he was in trouble. Additionally, he wanted to be President forever and there was a lot of talk he regretted not running in 2016 and letting Hillary have the spot. privately he blamed himself for Trump being President in the first place.

The real thing here is- Republicans thought Trump would walk over Biden to the presidency (and probably rightfully so). But then Biden stepped aside and Trump has stumbled for a month now to find a way to attack Kamala. Meanwhile Trump is stumbling through his own speeches like a raving lunatic meaning at the very least that this race will be a toss up again. 

And it doesn't seem like the Democrats (who you are trying to stand up for) care all that much about thee switch as the engagement for Kamala is through the roof right now.

 

 

TL/dr

[Sean Mooney 1,949]

7 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

TL/dr

George Clooney

HT's reaction:

 

 

[seafoam1 2,808]

42 minutes ago, purdygood said:

The only TDS is people like you who are Totally D Sucking Donald. Well you and Stormy. 

Talk about the TDS...    This guy pudy is in it deep.

[purdygood 335]

2 hours ago, seafoam1 said:

Talk about the TDS...    This guy pudy is in it deep.

You know sometimes im just F'in with you.   Sometimes you have good comebacks.  We can agree to disagree on Trump. I dont have TDS.  My life is good.  I just dont like the man or his policies and would never use my precious freedom to vote for him. Thats all. You are free to vote for him if you want. 
 

 

maybe you can change my mind? What are 3 policies of Trump's that you think would change my mind?

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11 hours ago, Sean Mooney said:

So your argument is: The Democratic Party just unilaterally wrote a letter saying Biden wasn't writing for President, wrote out a bunch of things thanking the people, signed his name at the bottom and Biden knew nothing about it?

And he did a speech later that week and has done interviews since. I'm sorry he hasn't done what you wanted.

Perhaps the reality of the situation wasn't clear to people in the party until the debate. Like they thought he could rally one last time and the debate made it clear he couldn't. When that happened they looked to move on. Biden to his credit stepped aside. Maybe he thought he could still do it and the debate made him realize he was in trouble. Additionally, he wanted to be President forever and there was a lot of talk he regretted not running in 2016 and letting Hillary have the spot. privately he blamed himself for Trump being President in the first place.

The real thing here is- Republicans thought Trump would walk over Biden to the presidency (and probably rightfully so). But then Biden stepped aside and Trump has stumbled for a month now to find a way to attack Kamala. Meanwhile Trump is stumbling through his own speeches like a raving lunatic meaning at the very least that this race will be a toss up again. 

And it doesn't seem like the Democrats (who you are trying to stand up for) care all that much about thee switch as the engagement for Kamala is through the roof right now.

 

 

I'm saying they tried to get him to step aside but initially he refused to do so. So they posted that letter to X without his knowledge or consent. Then they threatened him, presumably with the 25th amendment, but only Pelosi, Obama and Biden know for sure. At that point he reluctantly agreed to step aside. But he didn't really have a choice. 

 

And I'm standing up for democracy, not democrats. The Dem party hijacked the process, foisted a new nominee on the country and didn't give the voters a say. Nobody voted Harris for potus. Had there been a primary she would not be the nominee. 

[Sean Mooney 1,949]

52 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

I'm saying they tried to get him to step aside but initially he refused to do so. So they posted that letter to X without his knowledge or consent. Then they threatened him, presumably with the 25th amendment, but only Pelosi, Obama and Biden know for sure. At that point he reluctantly agreed to step aside. But he didn't really have a choice. 

 

And I'm standing up for democracy, not democrats. The Dem party hijacked the process, foisted a new nominee on the country and didn't give the voters a say. Nobody voted Harris for potus. Had there been a primary she would not be the nominee. 

But you are building your argument on this being a fact

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23 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

But you are building your argument on this being a fact

It's a fact that Pelosi threatened to do something if Joe didn't drop out. What that something is only they know for sure. 

[The Real timschochet 6,472]

7 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

It's a fact that Pelosi threatened to do something if Joe didn't drop out. What that something is only they know for sure. 

It’s pretty easy to figure that out. When she made that threat, she hasn’t publicly called on him to drop out. Others had but for someone of her level to do so would have been a major embarrassment to Biden, akin to Barry Goldwater calling on Nixon to resign. It would have come to define Biden’s legacy. So that was obviously what the threat was. 

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