The two worst things about Fantasy Football

[HTH 93]

#1 Injuries - I'm getting killed this year. Worst Evah!

#2 Leaving points on the bench. 

For example: When I start Dak Mayfield goes off.  when I start Mayfield Dak goes off.

 

[weepaws 3,154]

1. HTH only leagues 

2. It goes by so quickly.  

[nobody 2,562]

And the third worst thing is weepaws

[HTH 93]

11 minutes ago, weepaws said:

1. HTH only leagues 

 

[weepaws 3,154]

18 minutes ago, nobody said:

And the third worst thing is weepaws

Praise the Lord Jesus Christ, for He is worthy.  Amen Thanks 

[weepaws 3,154]

10 minutes ago, HTH said:

Sorry, but I do prefer total points over hth.   In both of the leagues I’m in, we do both , pay out is bigger for winning total points. 

[HTH 93]

Ahhh Thanks!

[plasma george 62]

38 minutes ago, weepaws said:

Sorry, but I do prefer total points over hth.   In both of the leagues I’m in, we do both , pay out is bigger for winning total points. 

Same here in our 25 year Money League, Total Points is the True Champion, and everyone knows it

Best part is, you're not just playing against your weekly opponent, you're playing against all League mates and you don't want to see anyone else racking up big points..

[Ray_T 740]

1 hour ago, HTH said:

#1 Injuries - I'm getting killed this year. Worst Evah!

#2 Leaving points on the bench.

injuries happen to everyone to varying degrees.

thats where the extra research on those probable waiver wire pickups at the start of the year comes in handy.   and reading the fftoday (or any other) fantasy message board come in handy.

sometimes other people do their own research and post to the board.  When an injury happens you likely can figure out who the next man up is likely to be.   but I have found that what differentiates the top players from the rest is the top players find ways to win when their guys are out with injury.

as for #2.  yeah, I had mooney on my bench in two leagues.

in one I had my backup QB (cousins) covering a bye and had drake London starting, and didnt want to put too many eggs in the one basket as Tampa was supposed to have a good defense against the pass.   Clearly that wasnt right, (at least not this week) but I still had a solid start to my fantasy week

 

in another league my team was just too deep at WR and Mooney ended up sitting on my bench.   but I picked him up because I thought hed perform at some point.   either way its a nice problem to have if your bench is performing.

[weepaws 3,154]

1 hour ago, plasma george said:

Same here in our 25 year Money League, Total Points is the True Champion, and everyone knows it

Best part is, you're not just playing against your weekly opponent, you're playing against all League mates and you don't want to see anyone else racking up big points..

Agreed.  

[easilyscan 858]

2 hours ago, plasma george said:

Same here in our 25 year Money League, Total Points is the True Champion, and everyone knows it

Best part is, you're not just playing against your weekly opponent, you're playing against all League mates and you don't want to see anyone else racking up big points..

Your comment from some years ago in the debate concerning HTH vs total points was so good, I put it in my greatest quotes folder. Yes, I'm serious.

Total Points Champion is the real champion of any FF league.  It's a game of statistics, not actually playing H2H on a field.  Huge difference from real football.

[gridirongoofs 124]

3 hours ago, HTH said:

#1 Injuries - I'm getting killed this year. Worst Evah!

#2 Leaving points on the bench. 

For example: When I start Dak Mayfield goes off.  when I start Mayfield Dak goes off.

 

Some years you're the windshield, some years your the bug. 

[Ray_T 740]

well, there is something to be said for strategically putting together a roster to beat a higher ranked team.   when you do it successfully it feels real good.    You never get that in a total points league.    So I prefer the head to head format.

usually the teams with the highest scoring inevitably float to the top of the standings anyway.    its not rocket science.  if you score, usually you win

[nobody 2,562]

I'm not a fan of total points leagues.  

Team A scores 100 points every week for 16 weeks for a total of 1600 points.
Team B scores 99 points 15 weeks, but happens to score 116 points one week for a total of 1601 points
Team A outscored Team B 15 out of 16 weeks but somehow Team B wins even though Team A is clearly better.

The better way to do it if you really want the best team to be rewarded is to have every team play every other team each week and the best record at the end of the season wins.

So if you're in a 12 team league, each team plays 11 games every week.

[plasma george 62]

3 hours ago, easilyscan said:

Your comment from some years ago in the debate concerning HTH vs total points was so good, I put it in my greatest quotes folder. Yes, I'm serious.

Total Points Champion is the real champion of any FF league.  It's a game of statistics, not actually playing H2H on a field.  Huge difference from real football.

Haha I thought you were roasting me until I finished reading your comment

That’s awesome, thanks man 

hope your league awards Total Points

our Total Points champ gets same money as SB winner, same for 2nd places,  3rd in points gets entry fee back, $200

and Tiebreaker for same records to make playoffs is highest points, not H2H record 

[plasma george 62]

6 minutes ago, nobody said:

I'm not a fan of total points leagues.  

Team A scores 100 points every week for 16 weeks for a total of 1600 points.
Team B scores 99 points 15 weeks, but happens to score 116 points one week for a total of 1601 points
Team A outscored Team B 15 out of 16 weeks but somehow Team B wins even though Team A is clearly better.

The better way to do it if you really want the best team to be rewarded is to have every team play every other team each week and the best record at the end of the season wins.

So if you're in a 12 team league, each team plays 11 games every week.

In our 25 years the average separation in the teams is around 50 points, last year our #1 won by over 100, sick team 

your other way isn’t bad, but ours is so simple stupid, CBS standings already totals Points For, no extra work other than looking at the standings each week 

[easilyscan 858]

5 minutes ago, plasma george said:

That’s awesome, thanks man 

You're welcome.

[JagFan 149]

18 hours ago, HTH said:

#1 Injuries - I'm getting killed this year. Worst Evah!

#2 Leaving points on the bench. 

For example: When I start Dak Mayfield goes off.  when I start Mayfield Dak goes off.

 

That’s why you don’t draft a QB until week 3.

[polecatt 474]

The worst thing about fantasy football is when you score the 2nd highest score in your league of the week and still lose because your opponent scored the highest, all while the rest of the teams that won got out scored by you top 3 players...

I've been on both sides of that scenario enough to know it just is what it is

[polecatt 474]

I hate the notion that fantasy football is only about scoring the most points.

Of course that's a big part, but anyone who has a bit of experience knows there's a lot more to it than that.

If you want to win week in, week out, you have to learn the ins and outs of the players and your specific league.

Consistency is just as important as a high point total at the end of the season.

Just like in real football, it's about knowing how to get your team to peak at the right time, the playoffs.

That's the fun part. If there was no head to head aspect, just comparing everybody's stats at the end of the week, I would have lost interest a long time ago.

[BufordT 427]

1. I agree about injuries being the worst

2.  2nd worst is too many people play now. I'm in 2 leagues (used to be as many as 5), my big money league 12 teamer which started in 1996 and is ultra competitive. I'm also in a family league which I could care less about but have to fake enthusiasm/interest to placate extended family.  So nauseating.  

[plasma george 62]

2 hours ago, polecatt said:

I hate the notion that fantasy football is only about scoring the most points.

Of course that's a big part, but anyone who has a bit of experience knows there's a lot more to it than that.

If you want to win week in, week out, you have to learn the ins and outs of the players and your specific league.

Consistency is just as important as a high point total at the end of the season.

Just like in real football, it's about knowing how to get your team to peak at the right time, the playoffs.

That's the fun part. If there was no head to head aspect, just comparing everybody's stats at the end of the week, I would have lost interest a long time ago.

I agree, having Divisions, schedules, the H2H banter, race for Playoffs, mimic the NFL that Points doesn't have, we do BOTH, split the Pot 50% for 2 races.

$200 entry, Pot usually gets to $2,500.

35% to Total Points and SB winner, around $800

15% to 2nd Points and SB runnerup, around $400

$200 entry fee, to 3rd in Points.  Haven't had a Double winner in many years, #1 lost in the Playoffs, w Injuries.

[weepaws 3,154]

4 hours ago, polecatt said:

I hate the notion that fantasy football is only about scoring the most points.

Of course that's a big part, but anyone who has a bit of experience knows there's a lot more to it than that.

If you want to win week in, week out, you have to learn the ins and outs of the players and your specific league.

Consistency is just as important as a high point total at the end of the season.

Just like in real football, it's about knowing how to get your team to peak at the right time, the playoffs.

That's the fun part. If there was no head to head aspect, just comparing everybody's stats at the end of the week, I would have lost interest a long time ago.

By itself I would agree,   Both leagues I’m in, we do both, we just payout for for total points, but both still matter.  

[polecatt 474]

1 hour ago, plasma george said:

I agree, having Divisions, schedules, the H2H banter, race for Playoffs, mimic the NFL that Points doesn't have, we do BOTH, split the Pot 50% for 2 races.

$200 entry, Pot usually gets to $2,500.

35% to Total Points and SB winner, around $800

15% to 2nd Points and SB runnerup, around $400

$200 entry fee, to 3rd in Points.  Haven't had a Double winner in many years, #1 lost in the Playoffs, w Injuries.

I'm just in one league now and it's not a lot of money but winner gets like $300-$500, so that's a nice little chunk of change.

The fun leagues I used to be in though, we had trophies and all sorts of different cash prizes. We had like 8-10 trophies to give out every season. The league winner got $250 and the biggest trophy. The runner up got like $100. The division winners got trophies, the highest point scorer got a trophy, the team with the highest scoring player got and MVP trophy. That's what made me love playing

[polecatt 474]

21 minutes ago, weepaws said:

By itself I would agree,   Both leagues I’m in, we do both, we just payout for for total points, but both still matter.  

I've had leagues where the total points winner gets a bonus payout and/or trophy but the league Super Bowl winner still gets the big payout.

I'm not against rewarding it but not the main thing

[weepaws 3,154]

56 minutes ago, polecatt said:

I've had leagues where the total points winner gets a bonus payout and/or trophy but the league Super Bowl winner still gets the big payout.

I'm not against rewarding it but not the main thing

That used to be the way, but not anymore.  Total points now gets the bigger payout.  But both still get paid.  Makes it more fun having payouts for both, and it keeps more teams interested deeper into the season.  

Also you pay a weekly fee, based on total points, the team that is 14th in total points , owes 14 dollars and so on. Number one in total points weekly receives 14 , and the number highest total point gainer weekly pays, and receives 0.  Rest goes into the final payouts.  

[weepaws 3,154]

Used to be in just total points leagues, and only HTH leagues, didn’t like that, I like the combo.