Japanese issue warning of vaccinated

[Frozenbeernuts 2,330]

The vaccinated are 5x more likely to die. Hmm I wonder who was warning of this before any liberal had a clue about the vaccine. Those name of those people rhyme with Drump happorters

https://x.com/CartlandDavid/status/1854509133254287524?s=19

[HellToupee 2,164]

At first I read 5% higher and thought big deal. 
 

5x …..holyshit

[TheNewGirl 1,635]

Why, tho? What's in the vaccine that kills? 

I know some folks who had some pretty severe Covid, so I am genuinely curious. 

[BrahmaBulls 913]

9 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

Why, tho? What's in the vaccine that kills? 

I know some folks who had some pretty severe Covid, so I am genuinely curious. 

There have been so many strokes since that vaccine came out.  I know 5-6 people in real life that have had strokes. It's insane and every one of them was vaxed.

[DonS 3,319]

13 minutes ago, BrahmaBulls said:

There have been so many strokes since that vaccine came out.  I know 5-6 people in real life that have had strokes. It's insane and every one of them was vaxed.

Stroke me stroke me

 

 

[Hawkeye21 2,454]

I still believe that Covid was serious, but only for certain demographics. I had a very close friend die from it.  I also believe it was only really serious for certain people, like himself. He was very overweight and it led to a heart attack. For most people it was like the flu or cold. 

[weepaws 3,312]

Mmm interesting that trump gets elected, and now more deaths to people.  Shame. 

Romans 13:7.  Render therefore to all their dues, tribute to whom tribute is due, custom to whom custom, Fear to whom fear, honor to whom honor.   Indeed Amen Thanks 

[TimHauck 3,284]

This video appears to be referring to something called the “Replicon” vaccine, not the prior Covid vaccines.  But I don’t believe they even cite where they’re getting their numbers from.  
 

You may want to keep what you said earlier in mind FBN, bolding mine

23 hours ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

If you want an accurate source of what's going on, head to X. Yeah there is a lot of disinformation, but there is also a lot of accurate things the media will never mention. You learn to sift through things. It's better than the media twisting or out right lying on every single story they present

 

[League Champion 1,926]

6 hours ago, Hawkeye21 said:

I still believe that Covid was serious, but only for certain demographics. I had a very close friend die from it.  I also believe it was only really serious for certain people, like himself. He was very overweight and it led to a heart attack. For most people it was like the flu or cold. 

.  This exactly! 

There was absolutely no reason for normal healthy people or kids to get this shot. The Democrats should be ashamed for FORCING people to get jabbed and scaring everyone into losing everything 

[RLLD 4,275]

7 hours ago, Hawkeye21 said:

I still believe that Covid was serious, but only for certain demographics. I had a very close friend die from it.  I also believe it was only really serious for certain people, like himself. He was very overweight and it led to a heart attack. For most people it was like the flu or cold. 

Spot on....

If you want to know the motivations behind stuff like this, follow the money....who was the big winner financially...who left government to work for those making the vaccine.....

[TimHauck 3,284]

33 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Spot on....

If you want to know the motivations behind stuff like this, follow the money....who was the big winner financially...who left government to work for those making the vaccine.....

Stuff like what?  I assume you’re referring to mandates but Hawkeye’s post wasn’t even really talking about that.

Does anyone fit this description besides Scott Gottlieb?  If so and if you are referring to mandates, I find it hard to believe he was the driving force behind them.

[RLLD 4,275]

1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

Stuff like what?  I assume you’re referring to mandates but Hawkeye’s post wasn’t even really talking about that.

Does anyone fit this description besides Scott Gottlieb?  If so and if you are referring to mandates, I find it hard to believe he was the driving force behind them.

Anything to do with government, literally anything.

Policy is bought, I know this because I was in the room when it was bought.....so when a bill arises it will have many components, seemingly unrelated, because those pieces are payback to donors and supporters at the taxpayers expense....its a massive money laundering scheme.....and it happens at all levels, even down to the local county or town 

So......want to know who won here? Right off the top it will be big Pharma.....no question.....thats just easy......noodling out who THEY are rewarding is where it gets fun

[TimHauck 3,284]

40 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Anything to do with government, literally anything.

Policy is bought, I know this because I was in the room when it was bought.....so when a bill arises it will have many components, seemingly unrelated, because those pieces are payback to donors and supporters at the taxpayers expense....its a massive money laundering scheme.....and it happens at all levels, even down to the local county or town 

So......want to know who won here? Right off the top it will be big Pharma.....no question.....thats just easy......noodling out who THEY are rewarding is where it gets fun

So you think Operation Warp Speed was a bad idea?

[RLLD 4,275]

1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

So you think Operation Warp Speed was a bad idea?

I am speaking to any government policy, and action.....these do not simply happen, they are driven by corporate interests.....every day.... I have been the beneficiary of it.....

For example.....everyone wants to whine and lament about the Afghanistan withdrawal.....right?   They love to talk about all that hardware we left and arming the taliban etc etc.....

Want to venture a guess as to who "won" in that deal?  Who will be winning upon their retirement from their government jobs?  I already know......

[TimHauck 3,284]

1 minute ago, RLLD said:

I am speaking to any government policy, and action.....these do not simply happen, they are driven by corporate interests.....every day.... I have been the beneficiary of it.....

For example.....everyone wants to whine and lament about the Afghanistan withdrawal.....right?   They love to talk about all that hardware we left and arming the taliban etc etc.....

Want to venture a guess as to who "won" in that deal?  Who will be winning upon their retirement from their government jobs?  I already know......

I know.  And Operation Warp Speed was a “government action,” working together with Big pharma.  Do you think it was a bad idea?

[RLLD 4,275]

Just now, TimHauck said:

I know.  And Operation Warp Speed was a “government action,” working together with Big pharma.  Do you think it was a bad idea?

I don't care.....

Here is what I know.   Government is like the mafia, it runs essentially exactly like organized crime.   Knowing this is valuable, because once you see them do something like leave billions of dollars of broken-ass military hardware in Afghanistan, you know to start buying stock in companies supplying that hardware.....

It's all a corrupt game.   When considering government action, your next move should always be to trace down the winners, because that is where YOU can find YOUR best opportunity to derive financial gain.

Bad idea.....good idea.....   might depend on your perspective......it sure feels like a good idea when you get in quick enough to enjoy the financial fruits of the game.....

[jonmx 2,458]

This is impossible.   They thoroughly tests these drugs on tens of people over a multiple week window and they were certified as safe by Faucci.  

[jonmx 2,458]

31 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I know.  And Operation Warp Speed was a “government action,” working together with Big pharma.  Do you think it was a bad idea?

Rushing the drug to market during the beginning of a crisis when we had no idea of the severity of the pandemic was fine.   It was the push for mandatory vaccinations to eat, work, travel, go out that is where the real abuse of government power was, especially once it was shown the virus poised minimal risk to healthy people under 50.  

[TimHauck 3,284]

30 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I don't care.....

Here is what I know.   Government is like the mafia, it runs essentially exactly like organized crime.   Knowing this is valuable, because once you see them do something like leave billions of dollars of broken-ass military hardware in Afghanistan, you know to start buying stock in companies supplying that hardware.....

It's all a corrupt game.   When considering government action, your next move should always be to trace down the winners, because that is where YOU can find YOUR best opportunity to derive financial gain.

Bad idea.....good idea.....   might depend on your perspective......it sure feels like a good idea when you get in quick enough to enjoy the financial fruits of the game.....

More word salads to say nothing from you….

[RLLD 4,275]

3 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

More word salads to say nothing from you….

Read better....you need to read more and you need to learn more, much more......take yourself from knowledge and make the passage toward wisdom....the distinction is important.

[TimHauck 3,284]

5 minutes ago, jonmx said:

Rushing the drug to market during the beginning of a crisis when we had no idea of the severity of the pandemic was fine.   It was the push for mandatory vaccinations to eat, work, travel, go out that is where the real abuse of government power was, especially once it was shown the virus poised minimal risk to healthy people under 50.  

I’d agree with this. Doesn’t seem like @RLLD does but who knows what the heck he’s saying half the time

[RLLD 4,275]

Interesting.....

I recall how Democrats opposed his vaccine.  I recall how Democrats said it would be impossible for Trump to get it done in the time frame he stated, and how they would refuse to take that vaccine.

Then.....pharma mysteriously delayed its distribution......odd....

And then later.....well, golly gee.....it became mandatory....and would stop the spread (complete lie).

So then, anyone want to venture a guess as to who won when that vaccine became mandatory?   Anyone?

[TimHauck 3,284]

1 hour ago, RLLD said:

Interesting.....

I recall how Democrats opposed his vaccine.  I recall how Democrats said it would be impossible for Trump to get it done in the time frame he stated, and how they would refuse to take that vaccine.

 

We’ve been over this.  Harris did not say she wouldn’t take it.

Also, even in 2020 Democrats were more likely to take the vaccine than Republicans.

[RLLD 4,275]

15 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

We’ve been over this.  Harris did not say she wouldn’t take it.

Also, even in 2020 Democrats were more likely to take the vaccine than Republicans.

Semantics and you know it.

[squistion 2,474]

1 hour ago, RLLD said:

Interesting.....

I recall how Democrats opposed his vaccine.  I recall how Democrats said it would be impossible for Trump to get it done in the time frame he stated, and how they would refuse to take that vaccine.

Then.....pharma mysteriously delayed its distribution......odd....

And then later.....well, golly gee.....it became mandatory....and would stop the spread (complete lie).

So then, anyone want to venture a guess as to who won when that vaccine became mandatory?   Anyone?

Which Democrats refused to take the vaccine? 

The concern was that the vaccine was fast tracked without the usual clinical trials required by the FDA to safeguard the public (which often takes several years).

And as was noted, ultimately more Democrats took the vaccine than Republicans (this forum is proof of that).

Also, it is false to say the vaccine was mandatory for everyone (although many businesses required it among their employees to protect their coworkers and the public).

 

[RLLD 4,275]

Just now, squistion said:

Which Democrats refused to take the vaccine? 

The concern was that the vaccine was fast tracked without the usual clinical trials required by the FDA to safeguard the public (which often takes several years).

And as was noted, ultimately more Democrats took the vaccine than Republicans (this forum is proof of that).

Also, it is false to say the vaccine was mandatory for everyone (although many businesses required it among their employees to protect their coworkers and the public).

 

I did not keep a list.  Oh wait, we have established that rhetoric is not something that might ever compel people to action, right?

[squistion 2,474]

Just now, RLLD said:

I did not keep a list.  Oh wait, we have established that rhetoric is not something that might ever compel people to action, right?

No we haven't established that, Straw Man.

And if you did keep a list it was very short one.

[RLLD 4,275]

1 minute ago, squistion said:

No we haven't established that, Straw Man.

And if you did keep a list it was very short one.

 

No, I think you are on to something here.....rhetoric, as with Harris saying she would not trust the vaccine.....would never compel people to not take the vaccine, right? Because rhetoric does not do that.....or.....does it?

[squistion 2,474]

Just now, RLLD said:

No, I think you are on to something here.....rhetoric, as with Harris saying she would not trust the vaccine.....would never compel people to not take the vaccine, right? Because rhetoric does not do that.....or.....does it?

What did Harris say when the vaccine came out? Don't remember her words being"Don't take it folks!"

And since you can't come up with any notable Democrats who announced they weren't taking the vaccine when it was available and since more Democrats took it than Republicans, her pre release concerns about the vaccine had a neglible effect. 

[RLLD 4,275]

1 minute ago, squistion said:

What did Harris say when the vaccine came out? Don't remember her words being"Don't take it folks!"

And since you can't come up with any notable Democrats who announced they weren't taking the vaccine when it was available and since more Democrats took it than Republicans, her pre release concerns about the vaccine had a neglible effect. 

“I will say that I would not trust Donald Trump” on the reliability of a vaccine, Harris said.

Well, then, if she doesn't trust it....I guess I should not trust it....then she trusted it so much she was part of the cadre that wanted to take people down for NOT....taking it.

SO, rhetoric......we worried about that.....ever?   Asking for friend.....

[TimHauck 3,284]

11 minutes ago, RLLD said:

“I will say that I would not trust Donald Trump” on the reliability of a vaccine, Harris said.

Well, then, if she doesn't trust it....I guess I should not trust it....then she trusted it so much she was part of the cadre that wanted to take people down for NOT....taking it.

SO, rhetoric......we worried about that.....ever?   Asking for friend.....

She said she wouldn’t take it because Trump told her to, she would take it because scientists told her to

[TimHauck 3,284]

54 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Semantics and you know it.

Nope.

On 12/20/2022 at 1:51 PM, TimHauck said:

https://coloradosun.com/2020/09/14/colorado-coronavirus-vaccine-polls-politics/
 

“Among Democrats, 85% say they are likely to get the vaccine compared with 52% of Republicans”

 

[RLLD 4,275]

11 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

She said she wouldn’t take it because Trump told her to, she would take it because scientists told her to

Her words....I would not trust donald trump.....that rhetoric, it would....influence people...right? Or, do we instead suggest that words do not compel people into action?

[RLLD 4,275]

8 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Nope.

 

Of course, once Trump could no longer be given credit for the vaccine....well hey howdy hey.....THEN....it was a good thing, like magic.....

[TimHauck 3,284]

7 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Of course, once Trump could no longer be given credit for the vaccine....well hey howdy hey.....THEN....it was a good thing, like magic.....

The poll was from September 2020

[RLLD 4,275]

1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

The poll was from September 2020

Polls are awesome, they do not answer the rhetoric question, but as we can see from this past election....man....polls are just....fantastic....

[TimHauck 3,284]

2 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Polls are awesome, they do not answer the rhetoric question, but as we can see from this past election....man....polls are just....fantastic....

Most of the polls were really only a few % points off.

The rhetoric question is a different question.  You said Democrats opposed his vaccine, I showed you that even in 2020 more Democrats were likely to get the vaccine than Republicans.

But good to see you back to “whatever @RLLD feels is the truth, whatever the data says must be wrong.”

[RLLD 4,275]

2 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Most of the polls were really only a few % points off.

The rhetoric question is a different question.  You said Democrats opposed his vaccine, I showed you that even in 2020 more Democrats were likely to get the vaccine than Republicans.

But good to see you back to “whatever @RLLD feels is the truth, whatever the data says must be wrong.”

Oh, well, just to be clear rhetoric was the topic....between the other member and myself, perhaps that was not clear.

[TimHauck 3,284]

1 minute ago, RLLD said:

Oh, well, just to be clear rhetoric was the topic....between the other member and myself, perhaps that was not clear.

We were talking first, about Operation Warp Speed, not about rhetoric.  Here are the relevant prior posts

3 hours ago, RLLD said:

Interesting.....

I recall how Democrats opposed his vaccine.  I recall how Democrats said it would be impossible for Trump to get it done in the time frame he stated, and how they would refuse to take that vaccine.

Then.....pharma mysteriously delayed its distribution......odd....

And then later.....well, golly gee.....it became mandatory....and would stop the spread (complete lie).

So then, anyone want to venture a guess as to who won when that vaccine became mandatory?   Anyone?

 

1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

We’ve been over this.  Harris did not say she wouldn’t take it.

Also, even in 2020 Democrats were more likely to take the vaccine than Republicans.

 

1 hour ago, RLLD said:

Semantics and you know it.

 

[RLLD 4,275]

3 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

We were talking first, about Operation Warp Speed, not about rhetoric.  Here are the relevant prior posts

 

 

 

 

Oops....you appear to have accidentally missed this...   hope this helps, I am sure you didnt mean to not include it

 

No, I think you are on to something here.....rhetoric, as with Harris saying she would not trust the vaccine.....would never compel people to not take the vaccine, right? Because rhetoric does not do that.....or.....does it?