Discussion of Concerns for Trump Presidency

[Hardcore troubadour 16,295]

The Yankees were Pedro Martinez’ daddy.  Till they weren’t.

[Frozenbeernuts 2,550]

Did everyone see the people at Davos all waiting their turn to shake hands with Trump. Lol @ libs

[supermike80 2,206]

7 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

Did everyone see the people at Davos all waiting their turn to shake hands with Trump. Lol @ libs

Sure hope no one calls him Daddy.   The TDSers on this board will lose their sh!t.  Then say they really aren't.

LOL

[Ron_Artest 2,857]

Eli Manning is Tom Brady's daddy.  Always will be.

[nobody 2,996]

17 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

Sure hope no one calls him Daddy.   The TDSers on this board will lose their sh!t.  Then say they really aren't.

LOL

Sorry, man.  I'll call Trump your daddy since it means that much to you.

[supermike80 2,206]

5 minutes ago, nobody said:

Sorry, man.  I'll call Trump your daddy since it means that much to you.

LOL see?   You guys say it doesn't bother you.   Then when you're told you are lying, which you are, you continue.   Let it die.  Show everyone it really doesn't bother you by not engaging.  but you can't.  Liberals are emotional.  We all know this.  Heck even liberals know this.   

[Fnord 2,750]

16 hours ago, supermike80 said:

Liberals are emotional.  We all know this.  Heck even liberals know this.   

LOL. I won't disagree. BBUUUTTTT.... If you think we're the only ones, start reading about... here.

[BrahmaBulls 1,022]

17 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

It's also pretty creepy to act like Trump is your daddy on a message board for years.

It's also creepy how obsessed you are with pedos.  Like your hobby or something.

[supermike80 2,206]

1 hour ago, Fnord said:

LOL. I won't disagree. BBUUUTTTT.... If you think we're the only ones, start reading about... here.

Dude....No...That was a pretty major thing.   You guys get upset over just about everything.

[Fnord 2,750]

2 hours ago, supermike80 said:

Dude....No...That was a pretty major thing.   You guys get upset over just about everything.

Just stop. I'm seeing people in the streets of my home state being beaten, targeted, shot, and arrested illegally. To me that's far more of a big thing than some nutjob murdering a political firebrand because it isn't a single event. It's systemic.

Frankly, if that doesn't upset you as an American, you really shouldn't be evaluating other people's feelings on these matters.

[supermike80 2,206]

7 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Just stop. I'm seeing people in the streets of my home state being beaten, targeted, shot, and arrested illegally. To me that's far more of a big thing than some nutjob murdering a political firebrand because it isn't a single event. It's systemic.

Frankly, if that doesn't upset you as an American, you really shouldn't be evaluating other people's feelings on these matters.

Ok listen.  The liberal emotional responses extend well beyond this issue.  This was my point.  You guys cry whine and clutch your pearls over everything.   Constantly.  As far as what you see in your home state, i wont get into the debate that has been absolutely debated to death.   But i feel if people didnt interfere with law enforcement, they would be better off

[Hardcore troubadour 16,295]

9 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Just stop. I'm seeing people in the streets of my home state being beaten, targeted, shot, and arrested illegally. To me that's far more of a big thing than some nutjob murdering a political firebrand because it isn't a single event. It's systemic.

Frankly, if that doesn't upset you as an American, you really shouldn't be evaluating other people's feelings on these matters.

So many of them aren’t from your home state. 

[Fnord 2,750]

4 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

Ok listen.  The liberal emotional responses extend well beyond this issue.  This was my point.  You guys cry whine and clutch your pearls over everything.   Constantly.  As far as what you see in your home state, i wont get into the debate that has been absolutely debated to death.   But i feel if people didnt interfere with law enforcement, they would be better off

There are people interfering with ICE operations. They are wrong to do so. If they impede or assault those officers, they should be arrested and charged. 

That is NOT what is happening en masse. No need to go into further specifics since you're tired of the "debate."

Allow me to point you to the years 2020-2024, when the MAGA contingent turned every breath Biden took into a catastrophe, most of which was based on flat out lies or half-truths. I still haven't seen credible evidence of Joe receiving any illegal money from Hunter, but MAGA insists it's true. Maybe it is; show us the proof. They never do. Like, with anything. Libs hardly have the market cornered on irrational emotional response and to insinuate otherwise is intellectually lazy.

Meanwhile, every form of media is bombarded with actual evidence of what's going on in MN, but it's all the fault of the protestors? That dog don't hunt, my friend.

 

[supermike80 2,206]

3 minutes ago, Fnord said:

There are people interfering with ICE operations. They are wrong to do so. If they impede or assault those officers, they should be arrested and charged. 

That is NOT what is happening en masse. No need to go into further specifics since you're tired of the "debate."

Allow me to point you to the years 2020-2024, when the MAGA contingent turned every breath Biden took into a catastrophe, most of which was based on flat out lies or half-truths. I still haven't seen credible evidence of Joe receiving any illegal money from Hunter, but MAGA insists it's true. Maybe it is; show us the proof. They never do. Like, with anything. Libs hardly have the market cornered on irrational emotional response and to insinuate otherwise is intellectually lazy.

Meanwhile, every form of media is bombarded with actual evidence of what's going on in MN, but it's all the fault of the protestors? That dog don't hunt, my friend.

 

Again, saying Biden took money from Hunter isn't emotional.  You're missing the point.  Liberals get hurt...and I mean tears flowing hurt, over everything.  All the time.  TDS makes their brains turn into teen aged girls.

As far as MN, I haven't see anything of what you are saying.  Send me some.  I will look at it objectively.   But if I see a liberal spin on it I will honestly say so

[Fnord 2,750]

14 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

As far as MN, I haven't see anything of what you are saying.  Send me some.  I will look at it objectively.   But if I see a liberal spin on it I will honestly say so

 I appreciate your willingness to attempt objectivity. I was going to just quote pieces of this article, but couldn't get the links to work. I had never heard of the author; I stumbled on his substack because it was linked in other stuff I was reading. His bio, courtesy of AI:

Quote

Noah Smith, known by his blog name Noahpinion, is a prominent American economics writer, former finance professor, and Substack creator, famous for explaining complex economic and policy topics to a broad audience, covering themes from tech and immigration to culture, and known for his accessible writing style and prolific output on. He previously wrote for Bloomberg Opinion but now focuses on his popular newsletter, Noahpinion | Noah Smith. 

Key Aspects of Noah Smith/Noahpinion:

• Background: He holds a PhD in economics from the University of Michigan and was an assistant professor at Stony Brook University.

• Influence: He's a significant voice in online economic discourse, known for integrating diverse ideas and engaging with debates on technology, culture, and politics.

• Content: He covers a wide range of topics, including tech trends, immigration, global economics, and even personal interests like Japanese culture, often incorporating memes and rabbit pictures. 

• Economics & Policy: He breaks down economic concepts like antitrust, trade, and productivity, often with a focus on growth and innovation.
• Substack & Writing Style: His Noahpinion | Noah Smith blog, hosted on Substack, offers free and paid content, featuring deep dives, reviews, and commentary on current events

I have no idea of his politics, though I'm sure you'll claim he's a lefty, and he may be. Here's the link for the article, which includes dozens of video links. Click on a few of them and see for yourself. Noahpinion

[supermike80 2,206]

7 minutes ago, Fnord said:

 I appreciate your willingness to attempt objectivity. I was going to just quote pieces of this article, but couldn't get the links to work. I had never heard of the author; I stumbled on his substack because it was linked in other stuff I was reading. His bio, courtesy of AI:

I have no idea of his politics, though I'm sure you'll claim he's a lefty, and he may be. Here's the link for the article, which includes dozens of video links. Click on a few of them and see for yourself. Noahpinion

There's a LOT on this page.  So a quick reply isn't possible.   The first one I saw was horrible.   Cops raining punches on that guys head while he was on the ground.  I know nothing about that story and there is now way in my mind that was justified.   Was it ICE?  Not sure.  In any case, those dudes should be jailed.

In another, there was a video of a "legal immigrant" who had a mashed up face.  There was a video, but it only showed the guy already n the ground.  I have no idea if he did anything, but if he put those officers at risk, he would and should be thrown to the ground and yeah, his face is gonna get messed up by the road there.

I'll keep looking around and see what else this guy is linking.  I thought, however, that you said you had seen all of this taking place in your home state.   This is not that.

 

[nobody 2,996]

42 minutes ago, Fnord said:

I still haven't seen credible evidence of Joe receiving any illegal money from Hunter, but MAGA insists it's true. Maybe it is; show us the proof. They never do. Like, with anything. Libs hardly have the market cornered on irrational emotional response and to insinuate otherwise is intellectually lazy.

 

 

Well there was a laptop with emails indicating he was getting money from foreign companies which was clearly for access to the VP, and Hunter was giving a percentage to "the big guy."

Biden or his handlers had the DOJ bury it and you guys just bought it.  At that point, the proof you need is Hunter on video stating, "I am explicitly taking money from you in exchange for access to my vice-president father and to be clear, I am going to give my father a percentage of this money that you are giving me for the sole purpose of gaining access to my father.  Again, to be clear, I am not performing any duties for this money, but rather this is all a ruse to mechanize your bribes," so yeah that proof doesn't exist, but you did see the proof.  Us MAGAs can't help it if you just ignored it.

You also didn't believe that he had dementia when us MAGAs were saying it.

You also didn't believe the jabs were causing heart problems when us MAGAs were saying it.  

We can't help it if you don't want to believe obvious sh¡t.

[Fnord 2,750]

13 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

There's a LOT on this page.  So a quick reply isn't possible.   The first one I saw was horrible.   Cops raining punches on that guys head while he was on the ground.  I know nothing about that story and there is now way in my mind that was justified.   Was it ICE?  Not sure.  In any case, those dudes should be jailed.

In another, there was a video of a "legal immigrant" who had a mashed up face.  There was a video, but it only showed the guy already n the ground.  I have no idea if he did anything, but if he put those officers at risk, he would and should be thrown to the ground and yeah, his face is gonna get messed up by the road there.

I'll keep looking around and see what else this guy is linking.  I thought, however, that you said you had seen all of this taking place in your home state.   This is not that.

 

If I led you to believe that, it was not my intention. Many of the links are from MN, many aren't. And to be clear, I don't live in MPLS and haven't been there in a couple months, so I have not seen any of it first hand. If I make my way up there before the occupation ends, I may check some of it out. But it's cold AF here now, and I ain't looking for trouble.

[Fnord 2,750]

6 minutes ago, nobody said:

Well there was a laptop with emails indicating he was getting money from foreign companies which was clearly for access to the VP, and Hunter was giving a percentage to "the big guy."

Biden or his handlers had the DOJ bury it and you guys just bought it.  At that point, the proof you need is Hunter on video stating, "I am explicitly taking money from you in exchange for access to my vice-president father and to be clear, I am going to give my father a percentage of this money that you are giving me for the sole purpose of gaining access to my father.  Again, to be clear, I am not performing any duties for this money, but rather this is all a ruse to mechanize your bribes," so yeah that proof doesn't exist, but you did see the proof.  Us MAGAs can't help it if you just ignored it.

You also didn't believe that he had dementia when us MAGAs were saying it.

You also didn't believe the jabs were causing heart problems when us MAGAs were saying it.  

We can't help it if you don't want to believe obvious sh¡t.

I just posted an article with a shit_ton of links supporting my thoughts. I've heard the above a thousand times, and AGAIN, have seen NOTHING that resembles actionable, trial-worthy evidence. 

On the other hand, Jack Smith has collected enough evidence against the Don that he fully believes he could successfully prosecute him in court for J6 and illegally keeping classified material in his home. Get back to me when you can find the same.

ETA: I never doubted Biden's mental decline. I said as much in this forum. As for the covid stuff, let's keep it to one conspiracy at a time, eh?

[nobody 2,996]

Like I said, is magas can't help it if you want to ignore shìt

[Fnord 2,750]

46 minutes ago, nobody said:

Like I said, is magas can't help it if you want to ignore shìt

You could post some links with ACTUAL EVIDENCE that wasn't cooked up by a right wing radio host, podcaster, or MAGAmook.

I'll take it you don't have that, and will accept your surrender.

[nobody 2,996]

Why?  You don't know what was on the laptop by now?

I think you do, and, again, you choose to ignore it. 

 

Show me evidence!

Here's evidence. 

No, not that evidence! 

 

[MDC 8,320]

MAGA convinced Sleepy Joe was getting kickbacks from Burisma because of some references to “the big guy” on Hunter’s laptop.

Meanwhile, Trump goes into business with a guy he pardons and does business all over the globe while in office and that’s fine.

 

[nobody 2,996]

9 minutes ago, MDC said:

MAGA convinced Sleepy Joe was getting kickbacks from Burisma because of some references to “the big guy” on Hunter’s laptop.

Meanwhile, Trump goes into business with a guy he pardons and does business all over the globe while in office and that’s fine.

 

No trump should fry too.  That's the part you guys don't get.

[MDC 8,320]

9 minutes ago, nobody said:

No trump should fry too.  That's the part you guys don't get.

I’m pretty sure three separate investigations into Biden kickback claims came up empty. At some point you’ve got to let it go.

[nobody 2,996]

58 minutes ago, MDC said:

I’m pretty sure three separate investigations into Biden kickback claims came up empty. At some point you’ve got to let it go.

You guys crack me up.  You mean the DoJ didn't find anything wrong with their boss who's backed up by an entire system of power brokers that would all likely get pulled into the muck if a real investigation took place?  Oh okay, then.

Just look at what the dude wrote in the emails.  It's blatantly obvious.  Just like Trump burying Epstein.  We all know Trump at best was turning a blind eye to Epstein.  At worst he was a loyal participant in the crimes.  And, yes, we will likely never see anyone held accountable for it.  That doesn't mean we have to buy all the self-serving absolute BS that these guys spew.  And quite frankly, you guys all look like bootlickers on both sides when you protect your guy and try to call out the other team's guy when it's just so so so obvious they're knee deep in some BS.

[Hardcore troubadour 16,295]

1 hour ago, MDC said:

I’m pretty sure three separate investigations into Biden kickback claims came up empty. At some point you’ve got to let it go.

You continue to dig deeper. What a numb skull. 

[Fnord 2,750]

2 minutes ago, nobody said:

You guys crack me up.  You mean the DoJ didn't find anything wrong with their boss who's backed up by an entire system of power brokers that would all likely get pulled into the muck if a real investigation took place?  Oh okay, then.

Just look at what the dude wrote in the emails.  It's blatantly obvious.  Just like Trump burying Epstein.  We all know Trump at best was turning a blind eye to Epstein.  At worst he was a loyal participant in the crimes.  And, yes, we will likely never see anyone held accountable for it.  That doesn't mean we have to buy all the self-serving absolute BS that these guys spew.  And quite frankly, you guys all look like bootlickers on both sides when you protect your guy and try to call out the other team's guy when it's just so so so obvious they're knee deep in some BS.

So, instead of multiple responses telling us nothing, how about you step down off your soapbox, take a breath, and show us a LINK from a reputable news org that supports your opinion?

I know you're fairly rational and not MAGA, despite your satirical trolling over the last few days. Why don't you humor me and pretend I'm as level headed as you, and show me the information that informed your stance?

[MDC 8,320]

41 minutes ago, nobody said:

You guys crack me up.  You mean the DoJ didn't find anything wrong with their boss who's backed up by an entire system of power brokers that would all likely get pulled into the muck if a real investigation took place?  Oh okay, then.

If the DOJ was the only investigation, sure. The GOP-led House Oversight Committee and the impeachment inquiry looked into it too. And neither of them led to any charges.

As far as I know, the sole evidence that Sleepy Joe was getting kickbacks was a few references to “the Big Guy” in Hunter emails. I guess that could be Joe, but it’s hardly a slam dunk. 

MAGAs like Tardcore have been repeating the Biden Crime Family stuff for so long they never stopped to question the premise. It’s just their way of deflecting from the fact that Their Guy does in the open what they claim Biden did in private.

Sad!

[nobody 2,996]

54 minutes ago, Fnord said:

So, instead of multiple responses telling us nothing, how about you step down off your soapbox, take a breath, and show us a LINK from a reputable news org that supports your opinion?

I know you're fairly rational and not MAGA, despite your satirical trolling over the last few days. Why don't you humor me and pretend I'm as level headed as you, and show me the information that informed your stance?

Is this the third time I told you that it's useless because you will take nothing less than a signed confession backed up by video evidence or the fourth?

And it's very clear your intent given you keep giving yourself the out by naming yourself the arbiter of what is reputable or not which you may not realize yet is what we are actually arguing about.  I mean do you really want to get into a 4 page discussion lasting three days on if something should be reputable enough for you or not?  Because I don't.  I already know the outcome.  Again, you will take nothing less than a signed notarized confession.  I already know that. 

And yes I'm exaggerating for effect to demonstrate the futility of trying to explain to someone that when you find a trail of cookie crumbs leading from the kitchen to a kid's room and crumbs all in his room and on his face that you don't need to see him eating the cookie to know he did it.

[nobody 2,996]

23 minutes ago, MDC said:

If the DOJ was the only investigation, sure. The GOP-led House Oversight Committee and the impeachment inquiry looked into it too. And neither of them led to any charges.

As far as I know, the sole evidence that Sleepy Joe was getting kickbacks was a few references to “the Big Guy” in Hunter emails. I guess that could be Joe, but it’s hardly a slam dunk. 

MAGAs like Tardcore have been repeating the Biden Crime Family stuff for so long they never stopped to question the premise. It’s just their way of deflecting from the fact that Their Guy does in the open what they claim Biden did in private.

Sad!

Dude thinks the GOP wanted a spotlight on politicians taking under the table payments. 

Yeah the crack squad of FBI tech investigators couldn't authenticate anything because some files were copied.  I'm sure that would stop them if you or I were under investigation.  Man, hopefully if I ever need to go to trial for something, I get you guys on my jury. 

For people who like to rail against privilege, y'all really don't know how real privilege works.  god bless. 

[MDC 8,320]

42 minutes ago, nobody said:

Dude thinks the GOP wanted a spotlight on politicians taking under the table payments. 

Yeah the crack squad of FBI tech investigators couldn't authenticate anything because some files were copied.  I'm sure that would stop them if you or I were under investigation.  Man, hopefully if I ever need to go to trial for something, I get you guys on my jury. 

For people who like to rail against privilege, y'all really don't know how real privilege works.  god bless. 

So the GOP didn’t want a spotlight on Biden corruption, but they led not one but TWO investigations into it anyway? 

Bold strategy.  

[nobody 2,996]

Just now, MDC said:

So the GOP didn’t want a spotlight on Biden corruption, but they led not one but TWO investigations into it anyway? 

Bold strategy.  

Got to pretend you're doing something.  First day interacting with any sort of leadership at any level of any organization?

[Reality 3,190]

2 minutes ago, nobody said:

Got to pretend you're doing something.  First day interacting with any sort of leadership at any level of any organization?

Liberal troll for 2 decades, he's boring.

[Hardcore troubadour 16,295]

Sure, Burisma gave Hunter all that money because he’s so awesome. I wonder why other energy companies don’t have him on the board? 

[MDC 8,320]

32 minutes ago, nobody said:

Got to pretend you're doing something.  First day interacting with any sort of leadership at any level of any organization?

So FBI got rid of the evidence AND the GOP wasn’t really trying to get the Big Guy when they investigated him. Twice.

You sure covered all the bases!

One question though: Why take foreign kickbacks vs. open bribes, like the new guy?

[thegeneral 3,876]

31 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Sure, Burisma gave Hunter all that money because he’s so awesome. I wonder why other energy companies don’t have him on the board? 

Don straight up pardoned the scumbag who made him half a billion for his memecoin. Just shut it already

[nobody 2,996]

1 hour ago, MDC said:

So FBI got rid of the evidence AND the GOP wasn’t really trying to get the Big Guy when they investigated him. Twice.

You sure covered all the bases!

One question though: Why take foreign kickbacks vs. open bribes, like the new guy?

They didn't get rid of the evidence.  First they said it was Russian disinformation, remember?  You guys believed that of course.  Then they said they couldn't authenticate it because files were copied and threw up their hands.  Nothing else they can do.  Who knew copy/paste was the ultimate protection against cyber investigations.

Then the gop put on a big show like Congress always does.  I mean do those dog and pony shows ever lead to anything other than a bunch of grandstanding sound bites?