Hardcore troubadour 15,290 Posted February 1 And if schools don’t get their basic scores up they ought to have their funding cut. Ridiculous that millions of kids can’t read at grade level, or even close. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,948 Posted February 1 30 minutes ago, TrailGuy said: You voted for this and you voted to inflict pain and misery on others. So naturally you need to experience the same or you'll never learn. If "others" means "liberals", fine, but you do realize, you liberals dopes are doing it to yourselves don't you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grace Under Pressure 95 Posted February 1 Only undereducated and gullible marks think tariffs are good economic policy. Read a book. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,297 Posted February 1 Myself, I am not a believer in Tariffs, generally speaking. I do believe in reciprocal tariffs against countries which tariff or restrict our imports. I also believe I might violate my general rule when it comes to China since they violate international law and regularly steal intellectual property and so compete unfairly. What I would not do right now is tariff our friends to the north. Its winter. We need gasoline and heating oil. We also need lumber, and in abundance to rebuild after the huricanes. It seems a bad time to cause even temporary shortages there. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,656 Posted February 1 I always thought they tariffed Canada and Mexico because they know companies will run Chinese goods through shell companies in those countries. Import it from China to Canada. Slap some new packing and paperwork on it and ship it the US. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,682 Posted February 1 The tariffs are now in place: https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/02/01/us/trump-tariffs-news#canada-mexico-china-trump-tariffs Thank you Trump supporters 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrailGuy 554 Posted February 1 What a focking lunatic. Congrats ass holes! Love this for you! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrailGuy 554 Posted February 1 Just a negotiation tactic Art of the deal Focking idiots. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrailGuy 554 Posted February 1 On 11/25/2024 at 9:04 PM, MDC said: Relax. Trump says a lot of stuff. He’s not enacting 25% tariffs or deporting 15 million illegals. The man is all talk and showmanship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrailGuy 554 Posted February 1 On 11/26/2024 at 7:50 AM, RLLD said: Excellent use of tariffs to have an impact. It will be rather easy for Mexico to step up and avoid these tariffs entirely, and I submit that they will do so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,682 Posted February 1 It will be weeks or even more likely months before we see the effect on the consumer. During that time, expect the Maga fans here and elsewhere saying stuff like “what’s the big deal?” and calling those of us concerned about this “Chicken Little.” Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,682 Posted February 1 The executive orders Trump signed have provisions to retaliate with even higher tariffs if Canada, Mexico and China dare respond with tariffs of their own- as they are almost sure to do. Welcome to the trade war. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,909 Posted February 1 37 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: The tariffs are now in place: https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/02/01/us/trump-tariffs-news#canada-mexico-china-trump-tariffs Thank you Trump supporters Just like The Boss said he would do 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,682 Posted February 1 Those crazy libs at the Wall Street Journal just called this “the dumbest trade war in history.” 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,682 Posted February 1 Trump: “These tariffs will remain in effect until fetanyl and illegal immigrants stop hurting our country.” Very specific goals there… Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,909 Posted February 1 5 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Trump: “These tariffs will remain in effect until fetanyl and illegal immigrants stop hurting our country.” Very specific goals there… Which means till he gets what he wants which is a better trade deal. Read better the lines Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lickin_starfish 1,920 Posted February 1 TrollGuy's posts are streaming down this page like a trail of tears. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CaptainObvious1 368 Posted February 1 2 minutes ago, lickin_starfish said: TrollGuy's posts are streaming down this page like a trail of tears. He needs therapy badly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadrap 227 Posted February 1 30 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: It will be weeks or even more likely months before we see the effect on the consumer. During that time, expect the Maga fans here and elsewhere saying stuff like “what’s the big deal?” and calling those of us concerned about this “Chicken Little.” you mean when you said what is the big deal about inflation? Remember it was just "transitory"?? 3 years of 20 to 30% increase in prices on everyday goods and services. real time cost & real time hardship for lots of people. Going to take awhile to clean up the mess of the last 4 years. Maybe if we would have had a President who was all there, but you & the media claimed he was on top of his game. 4 years of ineptitude letting in unvetted 12 million immigrants & for a year not requiring them to get vaxxed. complain all you want, because of sides and all. it's what you do, I'm just pointing out the last 4 years were one pile of steaming crap & might take awhile to sort things out. Hey, maybe try another impeachment. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,682 Posted February 1 8 minutes ago, shadrap said: you mean when you said what is the big deal about inflation? Remember it was just "transitory"?? 3 years of 20 to 30% increase in prices on everyday goods and services. real time cost & real time hardship for lots of people. Going to take awhile to clean up the mess of the last 4 years. Maybe if we would have had a President who was all there, but you & the media claimed he was on top of his game. 4 years of ineptitude letting in unvetted 12 million immigrants & for a year not requiring them to get vaxxed. complain all you want, because of sides and all. it's what you do, I'm just pointing out the last 4 years were one pile of steaming crap & might take awhile to sort things out. Hey, maybe try another impeachment. What does any of this have to do with these tariffs. Just for once can’t you put aside the partisan crap and Biden? The only question is will these tariffs be good for us or not? Forget about whether you think Trump is a good or bad President in other areas and focus on this decision. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,909 Posted February 1 2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: What does any of this have to do with these tariffs. Just for once can’t you put aside the partisan crap and Biden? The only question is will these tariffs be good for us or not? Forget about whether you think Trump is a good or bad President in other areas and focus on this decision. President Donald Trump’s threat to impose across-the-board tariffs on any imports appears to be working. Volkswagen Group’s premium brands Audi and Porsche are considering shifting some production to the United States for the first time in their history, according to a report by German daily Handelsblatt, citing several sources familiar with the matter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,462 Posted February 1 Just now, The Real timschochet said: What does any of this have to do with these tariffs. Just for once can’t you put aside the partisan crap and Biden? The only question is will these tariffs be good for us or not? Forget about whether you think Trump is a good or bad President in other areas and focus on this decision. Elections have consequences. Put up a better candidate, or candidates as it were, next time. Trump is implementing the exact policies he ran on. You should just STFU and let him do what the people voted for him to do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,682 Posted February 1 28 minutes ago, League Champion said: Which means till he gets what he wants which is a better trade deal. Read better the lines You mean a trade deal better than the one he negotiated after tearing up NAFTA? The one he called the greatest deal ever? You and others keep assuming that he’s doing this to achieve some negotiating goal. Honestly I had hoped that was the case. But according to the reporting, Canada and Mexico sent trade negotiators to Washington a few weeks ago and asked the White House what if anything they could do to avoid this: they were willing to make huge concessions. They were told there was nothing they could do because Trump had his heart set in imposing these tariffs. This is what he wants. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,682 Posted February 1 2 minutes ago, Strike said: Elections have consequences. Put up a better candidate, or candidates as it were, next time. Trump is implementing the exact policies he ran on. You should just STFU and let him do what the people voted for him to do. Hey I can’t stop it. I can only comment. But I strongly doubt this is what the people wanted. I know he talked about it, and that Democrats warned of the consequences, but voters were not paying attention to this issue. They elected Trump to bring prices down and to control the border better. This is going to raise prices. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,462 Posted February 1 1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said: You mean a trade deal better than the one he negotiated after tearing up NAFTA? The one he called the greatest deal ever? You and others keep assuming that he’s doing this to achieve some negotiating goal. Honestly I had hoped that was the case. But according to the reporting, Canada and Mexico sent trade negotiators to Washington a few weeks ago and asked the White House what if anything they could do to avoid this: they were willing to make huge concessions. They were told there was nothing they could do because Trump had his heart set in imposing these tariffs. This is what he wants. Trump doesn't do things just for fun. Whether it's to pressure these countries in to stopping illegal immigration or the flow of drugs, or for some economic negotiating power, he has a reason for doing this. That you don't recognize this fact is just further proof of your shallow understanding of these issues. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,462 Posted February 1 Just now, The Real timschochet said: Hey I can’t stop it. I can only comment. But I strongly doubt this is what the people wanted. I know he talked about it, and that Democrats warned of the consequences, but voters were not paying attention to this issue. They elected Trump to bring prices down and to control the border better. This is going to raise prices. This is just dumb. He ran on it but you KNOW that the people who voted for him didn't want what he ran on. ROFLMAO Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,682 Posted February 1 6 minutes ago, Strike said: Put up a better candidate, or candidates as it were, next time. And don’t try to lay this on Democrats. We could have put up a turnip and it would have been a better choice than Trump. This is on you and anyone who voted for this guy. You broke it you own it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,438 Posted February 1 7 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: You and others keep assuming that he’s doing this to achieve some negotiating goal. Generalization made up in your brain, per usual. Has to put words in people's mouth to fit his worldview. Pathological Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,682 Posted February 1 2 minutes ago, Strike said: Trump doesn't do things just for fun. Whether it's to pressure these countries in to stopping illegal immigration or the flow of drugs, or for some economic negotiating power, he has a reason for doing this. That you don't recognize this fact is just further proof of your shallow understanding of these issues. I understand exactly why he’s doing this. Because he honestly believes that tariffs are good and will achieve a positive result. He thinks the other countries will pay the fees and won’t pass them on to American consumers. He’s totally wrong about this. It’s YOU and others who either don’t understand or won’t admit that you do. Thats why you guys keep implying there’s some secret plan here. Because you know how terrible this is going to be. But guess what? There is no secret plan. There is only a stupid little doofus in charge and all of you voted for him. Congrats? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrailGuy 554 Posted February 1 43 minutes ago, League Champion said: Which means till he gets what he wants which is a better trade deal. Read better the lines He negotiated the last trade deal Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,682 Posted February 1 5 minutes ago, Strike said: This is just dumb. He ran on it but you KNOW that the people who voted for him didn't want what he ran on. ROFLMAO I know per exit polling: the voters believed Trump would lower inflation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadrap 227 Posted February 1 3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: And don’t try to lay this on Democrats. We could have put up a turnip and it would have been a better choice than Trump. This is on you and anyone who voted for this guy. You broke it you own it. Nah, you broke it. we are trying to fix it. going to take some time. if it was up to you we would have elected Kanola and continued down the same road to the shxthouse. congrats Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrailGuy 554 Posted February 1 6 minutes ago, Strike said: This is just dumb. He ran on it but you KNOW that the people who voted for him didn't want what he ran on. ROFLMAO Trump doesn't even know how tariffs work. You think his voters do? They're both about to find out. Wait for the announcement where he rescinds the tariffs and claims victory. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,682 Posted February 1 3 minutes ago, Horseman said: Generalization made up in your brain, per usual. Has to put words in people's mouth to fit his worldview. Pathological Tony I figure these tariffs are right in your wheelhouse since you have acknowledged many times that you dgaf about the public and wouldn’t mind seeing them suffer. So this is your dream scenario right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,438 Posted February 1 Trump: "The best word in the English language is tariff" Tim: "Nobody voted for this or knew it was going to happen" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrailGuy 554 Posted February 1 Just now, Horseman said: Trump: "The best word in the English language is tariff" Tim: "Nobody voted for this or knew it was going to happen" Trump said Canada and Mexico will pay the tariff Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,682 Posted February 1 Just now, TrailGuy said: Trump doesn't even know how tariffs work. You think his voters do? They're both about to find out. Wait for the announcement where he rescinds the tariffs and claims victory. Hopefully that happens soon. But the longer it takes it will take a long time to recover. This is the ultimate FAFO Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,682 Posted February 1 1 minute ago, Horseman said: Trump: "The best word in the English language is tariff" Tim: "Nobody voted for this or knew it was going to happen" I’m trying to be optimistic. I don’t want to believe voters are total morons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,682 Posted February 2 4 minutes ago, shadrap said: Nah, you broke it. we are trying to fix it. going to take some time. if it was up to you we would have elected Kanola and continued down the same road to the shxthouse. congrats Listen: if your goal in electing Trump was to put an end to all the woke stuff you dislike, all the liberal policies you can’t stand, and usher in a new age of conservative political dominance, then there couldn’t be a worse decision for that goal than these tariffs. In the stroke of a pen Trump has reversed everything the GOP is trying to do and handed Democrats a huge win. Democrats never could have done it by themselves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,438 Posted February 2 22 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Tony I figure these tariffs are right in your wheelhouse since you have acknowledged many times that you dgaf about the public and wouldn’t mind seeing them suffer. So this is your dream scenario right? Let's see how the stock market goes as he works his way through it. That I care about. Extended and improved tax cuts for the "rich" will help, Those will happen. The problem is you lack the capacity of looking at it holistically. I DGAF if I have to pay $100 more for a new dishwasher if it hurts China. Doesn't bother me one bit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
