Here come the tariffs

[Ron_Artest 1,574]

3 minutes ago, RLLD said:

What?  What the fock are you talking about?

There are about 17 nations we trade with that this still needs to be done, we are not done yet, you moron.....

OMFG, you should really say this sh!t in your head before typing it....

So I agree that we're not done.  You said we just witnessed was a master class in how to conduct negotiations to achieve the desired outcomes.  Even though we're not done yet, can you name any desired outcomes that we have achieved and how Trump has achieved this?  Otherwise we didn't witness anything, correct?

[RLLD 4,254]

2 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

So I agree that we're not done.  You said we just witnessed was a master class in how to conduct negotiations to achieve the desired outcomes.  Even though we're not done yet, can you name any desired outcomes that we have achieved and how Trump has achieved this?  Otherwise we didn't witness anything, correct?

Oh, with regard to the outcome of the EU negotiations, just another win for us, a master class in doing things democrats said could not be done.  Well, THEY could never do it....

[Ron_Artest 1,574]

29 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Oh, with regard to the outcome of the EU negotiations, just another win for us, a master class in doing things democrats said could not be done.  Well, THEY could never do it....

So let's talk EU deal, the master class.

What did the US get?  Well we got a non binding framework first and foremost.  We got a 15% tax on all EU imported goods.  There was also talk about a $600B investment, right?  Well not really, see it's private investment and the EU has no control over them.    What about the $750B in energy?  Well again it's non binding and it's also unrealistic and not likely to happen.  See this is how most of the Trump negotiations have gone.  The world knows Trump is old and stupid and easily manipulated.  So you tell him what he wants to hear, and he eats it up.  We saw this with the troops that Mexico sent to the border to avoid the fentanyl tariff, the troops that were already there.  And the task force that Canada created, which already existed.

So did I miss anything with the EU?  Any other big "wins"?

What you call a masterclass is a joke.

Links to support what I post

https://www.politico.eu/article/eus-600bn-us-investment-will-come-exclusively-from-private-sector/

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/29/trump-eu-trade-deal-energy-gas-oil-lng-nuclear.html

[RLLD 4,254]

4 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

So let's talk EU deal, the master class.

What did the US get?  Well we got a non binding framework first and foremost.  We got a 15% tax on all EU imported goods.  There was also talk about a $600B investment, right?  Well not really, see it's private investment and the EU has no control over them.    What about the $750B in energy?  Well again it's non binding and it's also unrealistic and not likely to happen.  See this is how most of the Trump negotiations have gone.  The world knows Trump is old and stupid and easily manipulated.  So you tell him what he wants to hear, and he eats it up.  We saw this with the troops that Mexico sent to the border to avoid the fentanyl tariff, the troops that were already there.  And the task force that Canada created, which already existed.

So did I miss anything with the EU?  Any other big "wins"?

What you call a masterclass is a joke.

Links to support what I post

https://www.politico.eu/article/eus-600bn-us-investment-will-come-exclusively-from-private-sector/

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/29/trump-eu-trade-deal-energy-gas-oil-lng-nuclear.html

I give you credit for trying.  It is not easy to take a win this big and try to misrepresent it to be negative.  But look at you....gaslighting like a pro....

when even CNN admits it was good....and when you have CNN and MSDNC admitting it was good, maybe you are just swimming against the tide brother....

If you spend all your time pretending, the real world will pass you by

[Ron_Artest 1,574]

3 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I give you credit for trying.  It is not easy to take a win this big and try to misrepresent it to be negative.  But look at you....gaslighting like a pro....

when even CNN admits it was good....and when you have CNN and MSDNC admitting it was good, maybe you are just swimming against the tide brother....

If you spend all your time pretending, the real world will pass you by

Do you want to dispute any of my points?  Was I incorrect?  Can you explain why this is so good?

Are you even going to try or is it just fingers in your ears LA LA LA  I"M RIGHT YOU'RE WRONG.  I welcome you to prove me wrong here.  Please.

[seafoam1 3,079]

4 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Do you want to dispute any of my points?  Was I incorrect?  Can you explain why this is so good?

Are you even going to try or is it just fingers in your ears LA LA LA  I"M RIGHT YOU'RE WRONG.  I welcome you to prove me wrong here.  Please.

Awww... Poor broke guttergirl..

[RLLD 4,254]

2 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Do you want to dispute any of my points?  Was I incorrect?  Can you explain why this is so good?

Are you even going to try or is it just fingers in your ears LA LA LA  I"M RIGHT YOU'RE WRONG.  I welcome you to prove me wrong here.  Please.

If the only thing you can come up with is nonbinding, I can live with that....but it really is funny that your ideological masters have finally admitted the truth, but here you are trying to tow the line.

Based on your history, if you told us to NOT invest in something, that is a clear indicator to pour money into it.  You have been consistently wrong, and shown no real economic acumen.

In fact, your clear opposition to this outcome is a confirmation that it is solid, beyond that provided by all the others who have now flipped...

[Hardcore troubadour 15,507]

6 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Do you want to dispute any of my points?  Was I incorrect?  Can you explain why this is so good?

Are you even going to try or is it just fingers in your ears LA LA LA  I"M RIGHT YOU'RE WRONG.  I welcome you to prove me wrong here.  Please.

“Your” points? Holy hell. That’s hilarious!

[Ron_Artest 1,574]

Just now, RLLD said:

If the only thing you can come up with is nonbinding, I can live with that....but it really is funny that your ideological masters have finally admitted the truth, but here you are trying to tow the line.

Based on your history, if you told us to NOT invest in something, that is a clear indicator to pour money into it.  You have been consistently wrong, and shown no real economic acumen.

In fact, your clear opposition to this outcome is a confirmation that it is solid, beyond that provided by all the others who have now flipped...

OK so you agree with my assessment that this deal isn't anything great.  Thanks.

I'll ignore all your other BS about how you're always right and I'm always wrong on the same page as you conceded I'm right and you're wrong.

[seafoam1 3,079]

1 minute ago, Ron_Artest said:

OK so you agree with my assessment that this deal isn't anything great.  Thanks.

I'll ignore all your other BS about how you're always right and I'm always wrong on the same page as you conceded I'm right and you're wrong.

[Ron_Artest 1,574]

2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

“Your” points? Holy hell. That’s hilarious!

You want to explain to me how this EU deal was a masterclass and a giant win for america?

[RLLD 4,254]

Just now, Ron_Artest said:

OK so you agree with my assessment that this deal isn't anything great.  Thanks.

I'll ignore all your other BS about how you're always right and I'm always wrong on the same page as you conceded I'm right and you're wrong.

No, lying about what I said isnt going to work.....sorry.....maybe try lying toward someone else later or something to salve your hurt.

You stand out among the economically illiterate here, Tim is sorta silly, some of the others are obtuse....you are more....virulently stupid in spite of yourself....so your opinion is still useful, if only as an example of what not to think.  Hey, is the tariff driven recession in the forum with is right now?  

Gutter....never go full retard dood....

[Ron_Artest 1,574]

1 minute ago, RLLD said:

No, lying about what I said isnt going to work.....sorry.....maybe try lying toward someone else later or something to salve your hurt.

You stand out among the economically illiterate here, Tim is sorta silly, some of the others are obtuse....you are more....virulently stupid in spite of yourself....so your opinion is still useful, if only as an example of what not to think.  Hey, is the tariff driven recession in the forum with is right now?  

Gutter....never go full retard dood....

So you're going to call me economically stupid, yet you can't rebut anything I said about the EU deal which destroys your narrative that it's a masterclass and a huge win.

Thanks for playing.  I've gotten better debate from children.

[seafoam1 3,079]

3 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

You want to explain to me how this EU deal was a masterclass and a giant win for america?

[RLLD 4,254]

Just now, Ron_Artest said:

So you're going to call me economically stupid, yet you can't rebut anything I said about the EU deal which destroys your narrative that it's a masterclass and a huge win.

Thanks for playing.  I've gotten better debate from children.

My rebuttal is your contrived concerns dont matter.  it was a failed attempt to spin a big win in a negative light that even the partisans at CNN and MSDNC arent trying.

My rebuttal is that you allow your hatred for the man to pollute your mind so much, you make up irrelevant issues to feed that hate.

Again, never go full retard.

[seafoam1 3,079]

I love the tariffs. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,507]

27 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

You want to explain to me how this EU deal was a masterclass and a giant win for america?

I’m just pointing out that what you spew are not “your” points. You use the links you want to make “your” point, not the other way around. Funny you can never use a link that disputes the point you want to make. Even though they exist as well. 

[Ron_Artest 1,574]

22 minutes ago, RLLD said:

My rebuttal is your contrived concerns dont matter.  it was a failed attempt to spin a big win in a negative light that even the partisans at CNN and MSDNC arent trying.

My rebuttal is that you allow your hatred for the man to pollute your mind so much, you make up irrelevant issues to feed that hate.

Again, never go full retard.

So if China said tomorrow they are buying Eleventy Billion dollars worth of US Made cars, you would be beside yourself about the huge win and praise Donald

[seafoam1 3,079]

Just now, Ron_Artest said:

So if China said tomorrow they are buying Eleventy Billion dollars worth of US Made cars, you would be beside yourself about the huge win and praise Donald

Poor guttergirl is hurting. 

[Ron_Artest 1,574]

2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I’m just pointing out that what you spew are not “your” points. You use the links you want to make “your” point, not the other way around. Funny you can never use a link that disputes the point you want to make. Even though they exist as well. 

Well I'm the one that is here.  I presented the fact that the EU framework is non binding, and I challenged RLLD and you to respond, and you can't.

There are no links to dispute my points, they don't exist because I am 100% right, so go off and cry about it.

[seafoam1 3,079]

2 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Well I'm the one that is here.  I presented the fact that the EU framework is non binding, and I challenged RLLD and you to respond, and you can't.

There are no links to dispute my points, they don't exist because I am 100% right, so go off and cry about it.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,507]

Rep. Of Korea. .  China is being surrounded.  

[RLLD 4,254]

4 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

So if China said tomorrow they are buying Eleventy Billion dollars worth of US Made cars, you would be beside yourself about the huge win and praise Donald

Its not a horrible strawman you tried, but ultimately its just worthless.  Hating that this nation is doing better now is unhealthy.

[Ron_Artest 1,574]

Trump Taco'ed on Mexico Again

What a weak POS.

[squistion 2,225]

21 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

So let's talk EU deal, the master class.

What did the US get?  Well we got a non binding framework first and foremost.  We got a 15% tax on all EU imported goods.  There was also talk about a $600B investment, right?  Well not really, see it's private investment and the EU has no control over them.    What about the $750B in energy?  Well again it's non binding and it's also unrealistic and not likely to happen.  See this is how most of the Trump negotiations have gone.  The world knows Trump is old and stupid and easily manipulated.  So you tell him what he wants to hear, and he eats it up.  We saw this with the troops that Mexico sent to the border to avoid the fentanyl tariff, the troops that were already there.  And the task force that Canada created, which already existed.

I just saw the headlines and hadn't caught the details...

So, the EU deal is non-binding? Why are they cheering about that? 

[Ron_Artest 1,574]

7 minutes ago, squistion said:

I just saw the headlines and hadn't caught the details...

So, the EU deal is non-binding? Why are they cheering about that? 

Correct.  They are cheering because they are cheering for the man, not the deal and not America.  It is all about putting Trump above country.

 

[The Real timschochet 6,839]

Inflation increases in June: 

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-inflation-warms-up-june-tariffs-boost-some-goods-prices-2025-07-31/

Just the beginning…

[TimHauck 2,906]

The company I work for just announced tariff price increases (100% produced in the US but use a small amount of foreign materials).

I will say it’s probably true that the end consumer isn’t going to pay for all of it.  But they’re going to pay for as much as the companies think they can make them pay.  Big corporations like Walmart will be able to squeeze some of it out of the manufacturers, just not the giants like Procter and Gamble, who have also announced upcoming price increases - https://www.masslive.com/news/2025/07/major-toilet-paper-laundry-detergent-company-to-raise-prices-soon-over-tariffs.html).

[Horseman 2,478]

2 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

Inflation increases in June: 

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-inflation-warms-up-june-tariffs-boost-some-goods-prices-2025-07-31/

Just the beginning…

Good. Raise interest rates!

[Ron_Artest 1,574]

31 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Good. Raise interest rates!

He still doesn't get it

[Horseman 2,478]

21 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

He still doesn't get it

Needs an emergency fund.

 

[seafoam1 3,079]

45 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Needs an emergency fund.

 

 He has to dip into it occasionally to pay for the unexpected auto repair. 

[The Real timschochet 6,839]

New tarrifs on almost the entire world: 

https://www.cnn.com/business/live-news/trade-deadline-tariffs-trump-deals

[Ron_Artest 1,574]

Taco'ed again, 1 more week

[The Real timschochet 6,839]

Huge price hikes coming: 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna222349

[Ron_Artest 1,574]

Trump sets 35% tariff on Canada because they talked about recognizing Palestine.

[seafoam1 3,079]

5 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Trump sets 35% tariff on Canada because they talked about recognizing Palestine.

Winning. 

[Meglamaniac 532]

9 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

Huge price hikes coming: 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna222349

HUGE I tell ya

[seafoam1 3,079]

10 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

Huge price hikes coming: 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna222349

He says for the 10,000th time in the past year. . 

[squistion 2,225]

29 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Trump sets 35% tariff on Canada because they talked about recognizing Palestine.