A Tesla Cybertruck has exploded at Trump Hotel in Las Vegas.

[TimHauck 2,724]

11 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

I didn't say it was fact, I said I found it particularly interesting. Maybe you didn't. 

I also found it interesting that his Signal safety number changed, supposedly, after he died. 

And Tim Kennedy's text stating he knew  the guy and he was "in good standing", which is telling, and that "he was on to better stuff." 

That doesn't sound like a guy about to blow sh!t up and off himself. 

I could be completely wrong. But I'm not going to believe what the media says about this. There's a cover-up afoot. 

You kinda did.

5 hours ago, TrailGuy said:

The cyber truck had no bearing on the blast.  

 

4 hours ago, 5-Points said:

Yeah, it did.

 

Also, Tim Kennedy didn’t really know him.  He was briefly on a reality show with him 13 years ago or something.  A lot can change in 13 years.

I would say just about the only things we know that are facts are that his wife recently left him, and that he was a conservative.  Outside of that it’s mostly speculation.

[TimHauck 2,724]

I am skeptical of the other letter as well, considering he says the country has “strayed from family values,” days after his wife and mother of newborn son recently left him for cheating.  But I guess that could just be typical MAGA dude hypocrisy.

[5-Points 3,471]

7 hours ago, 5-Points said:

Seems dude was blowing the whistle on some focked up sh!t. 

 

I found particularly interesting the part about choosing a cyber truck because it can drive itself to a location and contain the blast sufficiently to avoid civilian casualties. 

 

1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

Your last paragraph is just them speculating, the “email” doesn’t even mention a cybertruck

 

1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

You’re acting like it’s confirmed he chose the cyber truck because it would contain the blast, but it’s not (although it would make sense).  A cybertruck was not mentioned in either of the alleged documents.

 

1 hour ago, 5-Points said:

Did you expect to him to lay out his plan before hand? 

He took great pains to reach out before he carried out his plans. Presumably because he didn't want anybody to be able to intervene. 

 

1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

No, just saying don’t act like something is fact when it isn’t. 

I’m still leaning towards the email discussed on Shawn Ryan’s podcast being fake.  Adding some of my own analysis that I haven’t seen mentioned is I got a chuckle out of him saying “for vetting here’s my LinkedIn Profile.”   Like why would a public LinkedIn profile be a way to vet someone that supposedly has super top secret information?  Not to mention some other folks did call out that he listed the LinkedIn profile as Matthew when it’s actually Matt.

 

38 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

I didn't say it was fact, I said I found it particularly interesting. Maybe you didn't. 

I also found it interesting that his Signal safety number changed, supposedly, after he died. 

And Tim Kennedy's text stating he knew  the guy and he was "in good standing", which is telling, and that "he was on to better stuff." 

That doesn't sound like a guy about to blow sh!t up and off himself. 

I could be completely wrong. But I'm not going to believe what the media says about this. There's a cover-up afoot. 

@TimHauck Show me where I said it was fact. I said I found that portion of the interview "particularly interesting." 

Also, Tim said he "knew Matt" in his text. Are you calling Tim Kennedy a liar? 

 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,029]

14 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I am skeptical of the other letter as well, considering he says the country has “strayed from family values,” days after his wife and mother of newborn son recently left him for cheating.  But I guess that could just be typical MAGA dude hypocrisy.

look this guy talk about "MAGA" hypocrisy.   Maybe clean up your own house first?  Y'know, Joe pardoning Hunter for starters and all that...

[TimHauck 2,724]

4 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

 

 

 

 

 

@TimHauck Show me where I said it was fact. I said I found that portion of the interview "particularly interesting." 

Also, Tim said he "knew Matt" in his text. Are you calling Tim Kennedy a liar? 

 

I literally just did.  @TrailGuy claimed “the cyber truck had no bearing on the blast.” And you said “Yeah it did.  Apparently it’s true he didn’t want to harm anyone.”

 

I do not see the comment about being “on to good stuff” but here is the primary post from Kennedy.  They competed on a reality show together 13 years ago and from the sounds of it haven’t spoken since.  Also before he posted this he made a different post saying “does anyone know Matt Livelsberger”

 

[TimHauck 2,724]

1 minute ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

look this guy talk about "MAGA" hypocrisy.   Maybe clean up your own house first?  Y'know, Joe pardoning Hunter for starters and all that...

Yeah he’s a hypocrite too but that’s not what this thread is about. Stay on topic please

[jbycho 754]

10 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Yeah he’s a hypocrite too but that’s not what this thread is about. Stay on topic please

[5-Points 3,471]

12 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I literally just did.  @TrailGuy claimed “the cyber truck had no bearing on the blast.” And you said “Yeah it did.  Apparently it’s true he didn’t want to harm anyone.”

 

I do not see the comment about being “on to good stuff” but here is the primary post from Kennedy.  They competed on a reality show together 13 years ago and from the sounds of it haven’t spoken since.  Also before he posted this he made a different post saying “does anyone know Matt Livelsberger”

 

Mebbe brush up on your comprehension skill a little. I said the cyber truck contained the blast, because it did. 

I said I found the portion of the interview where they said he chose the cyber truck because of that possible capability "particularly interesting." I never said it was a fact that he chose it because of that fact. 

The Tim Kennedy text I'm referring to was shown in the Sean Ryan podcast I posted at about the 23:50 mark. 

[TimHauck 2,724]

2 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

Mebbe brush up on your comprehension skill a little. I said the cyber truck contained the blast, because it did. 

I said I found the portion of the interview where they said he chose the cyber truck because of that possible capability "particularly interesting." I never said it was a fact that he chose it because of that fact. 

The Tim Kennedy text I'm referring to was shown in the Sean Ryan podcast I posted at about the 23:50 mark. 

You said “apparently it’s true he didn’t want to harm anyone else.”

[5-Points 3,471]

5 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

You said “apparently it’s true he didn’t want to harm anyone else.”

Let me know when you settle on a place for those goalposts. 

TIA

[TimHauck 2,724]

1 minute ago, 5-Points said:

Let me know when you settle on a place for those goalposts. 

TIA

Haven’t moved them.  I said don’t act like things are facts when they aren’t.  That statement was an example of you doing that.

HTH

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,029]

25 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Yeah he’s a hypocrite too but that’s not what this thread is about. Stay on topic please

The topic is you cleaning up your own house first before pointing fingers. That's the topic.

[5-Points 3,471]

5 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Haven’t moved them.  I said don’t act like things are facts when they aren’t.  That statement was an example of you doing that.

HTH

Yeah you have. You've gone from cyber truck nonsense to this nonsense. 

I watched the podcast. I listened to what was said. I drew a conclusion and I shared it here. 

I never said anything was etched in stone, fact. 

You lose. 

 

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2 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

Yeah you have. You've gone from cyber truck nonsense to this nonsense. 

I watched the podcast. I listened to what was said. I drew a conclusion and I shared it here. 

I never said anything was etched in stone, fact. 

You lose. 

 

And then you kept telling people to watch the video as if watching 2 guys speculating would suddenly change their minds (I watched about 1/3 of it then got bored).

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2 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

And then you kept telling people to watch the video as if watching 2 guys speculating would suddenly change their minds (I watched about 1/3 of it then got bored).

Tell us what happened and why you are sticking up for dumbassery violence. 

[5-Points 3,471]

12 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

And then you kept telling people to watch the video as if watching 2 guys speculating would suddenly change their minds (I watched about 1/3 of it then got bored).

And I'm sure nothing that was said made you question anything you've heard from your "news" sources. 

Your intellectual curiosity gets bored easily when you hear things that contradict what you've been told to believe. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,257]

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[TimHauck 2,724]

38 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

And I'm sure nothing that was said made you question anything you've heard from your "news" sources. 

Your intellectual curiosity gets bored easily when you hear things that contradict what you've been told to believe. 

No as I said I listen to sources from all sides.  I care more about the evidence being presented than who’s saying it, so 2 guys just speculating for an hour bores me.

This guy has been one of the most outspoken I’ve seen that he thought this email was fake.  Looks like he’s a hardcore righty that’s disappointed so many are believing it.  One of the bigger red flags appears to be that his “first car” is not actually his first car.

https://twitter.com/boneGPT/status/1875714104213856544
 

 

But I’m listening to the rest of the podcast now.   Now Shoemate is talking about the anti-Trump Facebook posts from Livelsberger’s “wife.”  Guess he forgot to check that they’ve been divorced for years and he had a new wife that just left him.  Now he’s saying the New Orleans guy just had the ISIS flag because of “silliness.”  Seems like Shoemate is bit of a whacko

[5-Points 3,471]

30 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

No as I said I listen to sources from all sides.  I care more about the evidence being presented than who’s saying it, so 2 guys just speculating for an hour bores me.

This guy has been one of the most outspoken I’ve seen that he thought this email was fake.  Looks like he’s a hardcore righty that’s disappointed so many are believing it.  One of the bigger red flags appears to be that his “first car” is not actually his first car.

https://twitter.com/boneGPT/status/1875714104213856544
 

 

But I’m listening to the rest of the podcast now.   Now Shoemate is talking about the anti-Trump Facebook posts from Livelsberger’s “wife.”  Guess he forgot to check that they’ve been divorced for years and he had a new wife that just left him.  Now he’s saying the New Orleans guy just had the ISIS flag because of “silliness.”  Seems like Shoemate is bit of a whacko

Sean Ryan has one of the most popular podcasts on the planet. He vets his guests extensively. If he airs anything erroneous, he will publicly post a retraction. As will I, if it comes to that. 

Until then, I will listen to him and his take on all things military related. You do you. 

[TimHauck 2,724]

30 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

Sean Ryan has one of the most popular podcasts on the planet. He vets his guests extensively. If he airs anything erroneous, he will publicly post a retraction. As will I, if it comes to that. 

Until then, I will listen to him and his take on all things military related. You do you. 

I had never listened to Ryan before but he didn’t seem too bad TBH, most of the questionable stuff was coming from Shoemate IMO. Main complaint about Ryan was he seemed to be pretty much be encouraging “civil war”

[5-Points 3,471]

9 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I had never listened to Ryan before but he didn’t seem too bad TBH, most of the questionable stuff was coming from Shoemate IMO. Main complaint about Ryan was he seemed to be pretty much be encouraging “civil war”

You should check him out. Former Navy SEAL and CIA contractor. The guy has a very interesting story. He's played on both sides of the fence. He developed his own Columbian drug trafficking ring at one point. 

He doesn't encourage civil war. He encourages people knowing what our government is doing. 

[TrailGuy 554]

Military and vets move on DC starting now. Militias facilitate and augment this activity.

Occupy every major road along fed buildings and the campus of fed buildings by the hundreds of thousands.

Lock the highways around down with semis right after everybody gets in. Hold until the purge is complete.

Try peaceful means first, but be prepared to fight to get the Dems out of the fed government and military by any means necessary. They all must go and a hard reset must occur for our country to avoid collapse.

We must end the war in Ukraine with negotiated settlement. It is the only way.

Focus on strength and winning. Masculinity is good and men must be leaders. Strength is a deterrent and fear is the product.

Stop obsessing over diversity. We are all diverse and DEI is a cancer.

Thankfully we rejected the DEI candidate and will have a real President instead of Weekend at Bernie’s.

Consider this last sunset of ‘24 and my actions the end of our sickness and a new chapter of health for our people. Rally around the Trump, Musk, Kennedy, and ride this wave to the highest hegemony for all Americans! We are second to no one.

Sounds like every cultist on this board

[TrailGuy 554]

This was not a terrorist attack, it was a wake up call. Americans only pay attention to spectacles and violence. What better way to get my point across than a stunt with fireworks and explosives?”

As I said he wasn't trying to kill people, we're not lucky the cyber truck contained the blast.  He admitted he didn't want to kill anyone, he wanted a stunt which is why he chose fireworks.  He knew how to build bombs. If he wanted to blow people up he could have.

The more you know...

[TimHauck 2,724]

1 hour ago, TrailGuy said:

This was not a terrorist attack, it was a wake up call. Americans only pay attention to spectacles and violence. What better way to get my point across than a stunt with fireworks and explosives?”

As I said he wasn't trying to kill people, we're not lucky the cyber truck contained the blast.  He admitted he didn't want to kill anyone, he wanted a stunt which is why he chose fireworks.  He knew how to build bombs. If he wanted to blow people up he could have.

The more you know...

If that letter is real, he likely chose the CyberTruck at least in part due to the Musk/Trump connection.   Being able to contain the bomb could certainly have been a factor as well.

[Maximum Overkill 1,908]

1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

If that letter is real, he likely chose the CyberTruck at least in part due to the Musk/Trump connection.   Being able to contain the bomb could certainly have been a factor as well.

Autonomous Mode won't let you go off the road. Especially when you're already dead. 

[Herbivore 1,123]

2 hours ago, TrailGuy said:

This was not a terrorist attack, it was a wake up call. Americans only pay attention to spectacles and violence. What better way to get my point across than a stunt with fireworks and explosives?”

As I said he wasn't trying to kill people, we're not lucky the cyber truck contained the blast.  He admitted he didn't want to kill anyone, he wanted a stunt which is why he chose fireworks.  He knew how to build bombs. If he wanted to blow people up he could have.

The more you know...

I haven't followed the info from the last day or so, like if the email is from him etc., but I was thinking, he is a Trump guy, rents Elon truck, drives up and down Vegas blvd to decide blow up spot, does settle on Trump hotel cause less people around yet should get the most attn. But attn for what? If he did all this, he has left a vague trail.

[TrailGuy 554]

39 minutes ago, Herbivore said:

I haven't followed the info from the last day or so, like if the email is from him etc., but I was thinking, he is a Trump guy, rents Elon truck, drives up and down Vegas blvd to decide blow up spot, does settle on Trump hotel cause less people around yet should get the most attn. But attn for what? If he did all this, he has left a vague trail.

He writes that we need to get the Democrats out of government to save the country.  That's his wake up call.

[Herbivore 1,123]

11 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

He writes that we need to get the Democrats out of government to save the country.  That's his wake up call.

If that was him, it looks like the rantings of a crazy person. Elon Musk is gonna push for income equality? Strength and winning is allowing Russia to take parts of Ukraine, who would like to join NATO, with us? Guy cheats on wife, and talks about family values? He is shedding a light on processed foods? RFK jr. gonna address this? Maybe there, but how about his positions of flouride in water or his work with vaccines is Samoa. 

[TimHauck 2,724]

25 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

He writes that we need to get the Democrats out of government to save the country.  That's his wake up call.

He allegedly wrote that in notepad on his phone or something.  I think the question is why wouldn’t he put that message more out in the open which is a fair question to ask.  I think the answer is he was unfortunately just having a mental breakdown from PTSD + his wife leaving him.

At first I thought maybe he wanted his body to be unrecognizable so that the attack would seem like the perpetrator was a Democrat to get people to “fight to get the Dems out of the fed government,” but that wouldn’t explain having his military ID on him.

[Herbivore 1,123]

29 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

He writes that we need to get the Democrats out of government to save the country.  That's his wake up call.

 

4 minutes ago, Herbivore said:

If that was him, it looks like the rantings of a crazy person. Elon Musk is gonna push for income equality? Strength and winning is allowing Russia to take parts of Ukraine, who would like to join NATO, with us? Guy cheats on wife, and talks about family values? He is shedding a light on processed foods? RFK jr. gonna address this? Maybe there, but how about his positions of flouride in water or his work with vaccines is Samoa. 

I just read a comment on reddit that mirrored these thoughts. "He calls for masculinity and for men to be leaders, but decides as a man, husband, and father, that he had to take his own life and leave his family to fend for themselves". "fake ass man, writing fake azz bs". Again, if he wrote this, I think he might have just hit a wall, and lost his mind. 

[TimHauck 2,724]

1 hour ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Autonomous Mode won't let you go off the road. Especially when you're already dead. 

Elon says the driver needs to be attentive.  Not sure what happens if it senses you’re not, I guess it stops?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,257]

1 hour ago, TrailGuy said:

He writes that we need to get the Democrats out of government to save the country.  That's his wake up call.

Based

[Maximum Overkill 1,908]

14 hours ago, TimHauck said:

Yeah he’s a hypocrite too but that’s not what this thread is about. Stay on topic please

You never addressed it when it was the topic. Don't call others hypocrites, you're amongst the biggest. 

[TimHauck 2,724]

3 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

You never addressed it when it was the topic. Don't call others hypocrites, you're amongst the biggest. 

Yes I did.

On 12/1/2024 at 8:28 PM, TimHauck said:

Wow I didn’t think he would do this.  Too bad @Horseman never shared the discord screenshots from the Georgia shooter or else he could have won some money from me.

 

On 12/1/2024 at 10:32 PM, TimHauck said:

This was obviously a hypocritical thing for Joe to do.  Definitely feel justified in not voting for either him or his VP.  

 

[TimHauck 2,724]

Detailed thread from a Green Beret who believes the email to be fake:

 

[Herbivore 1,123]

20 hours ago, TimHauck said:

Detailed thread from a Green Beret who believes the email to be fake:

 

I don't have a twitter acct, and won't. I can see his page, but not the comments. Is there any deep diving going on? or just some opinions trying to protect his kind? Main page looks like just another angry righty?

[TimHauck 2,724]

39 minutes ago, Herbivore said:

I don't have a twitter acct, and won't. I can see his page, but not the comments. Is there any deep diving going on? or just some opinions trying to protect his kind? Main page looks like just another angry righty?

The biggest thing as mentioned by some others is that there is no evidence he actually owned a 2006 Ford Mustang.  Haven’t listened but I see Ryan/Shoemate did an x spaces trying to answer some of the other questions and the only explanation for this is that he may have listed a wrong car intentionally.

Not sure what you mean “protect his kind”?   If anything, Green Berets would probably want this email to be real if it leaves open the possibility that it wasn’t suicide or that he’s not even dead.

[Herbivore 1,123]

6 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

The biggest thing as mentioned by some others is that there is no evidence he actually owned a 2006 Ford Mustang.  Haven’t listened but I see Ryan/Shoemate did an x spaces trying to answer some of the other questions and the only explanation for this is that he may have listed a wrong car intentionally.

Not sure what you mean “protect his kind”?   If anything, Green Berets would probably want this email to be real if it leaves open the possibility that it wasn’t suicide or that he’s not even dead.

protect his kind - its like what you wrote in your first paragraph, ryan/shoemate will speculate in his favor cause they want their version to be true. I don't know any other posts GB Nap Time  has on this subject, so was wondering if there was any reveal from the supposed deep dive. Otherwise, it might be that GB Nap Time, who's second post is whining about trans people, is just looking for a way to create some nobility in this sad pathetic righty green berets suicide. 

[TimHauck 2,724]

46 minutes ago, Herbivore said:

protect his kind - its like what you wrote in your first paragraph, ryan/shoemate will speculate in his favor cause they want their version to be true. I don't know any other posts GB Nap Time  has on this subject, so was wondering if there was any reveal from the supposed deep dive. Otherwise, it might be that GB Nap Time, who's second post is whining about trans people, is just looking for a way to create some nobility in this sad pathetic righty green berets suicide. 

The Nap Time dude has said he believed Livelsberger was a patsy.  Which this email if true would probably support, so that’s why I find it interesting that he doesn’t believe the email is legitimate.

[Herbivore 1,123]

11 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

The Nap Time dude has said he believed Livelsberger was a patsy.  Which this email if true would probably support, so that’s why I find it interesting that he doesn’t believe the email is legitimate.

You confused me here. GB Nap Time thinks Livelsberger is a patsy. If the email was true, it would mean that Livelsberger is not a patsy. If the email was not true, then it is more plausible that Livelsberger is a patsy. Its not interesting that GB Nap Time, judging by his page is some hard righty who thinks he is fighting the good fight, would question the email, he doesn't want it to be true. That's why I asked what was in the deep dive. If its just the car thing, not quite a deep dive.