cmh6476 997 Posted January 5 Fired mid-season: Jets (Saleh) Saints (Allen) Bears (Eberflus) Who else gonna get that pink slip? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmh6476 997 Posted January 5 Reports that Matt Nagy and Steve Spagnuolo will both get consideration for openings. Nagy getting interest from the Saints and Spags has said he loves being in KC but would like to get s chance as HC again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drogon 15 Posted January 5 11 minutes ago, cmh6476 said: Fired mid-season: Jets (Saleh) Saints (Allen) Bears (Eberflus) Who else gonna get that pink slip? Mayo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LVSaint429 16 Posted January 5 53 minutes ago, cmh6476 said: Fired mid-season: Jets (Saleh) Saints (Allen) Bears (Eberflus) Who else gonna get that pink slip? Pederson & Pierce Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike FF Today 712 Posted January 5 Patriots don't wait until Monday. They have fired Jerod Mayo. One and done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kutulu 1,642 Posted January 6 1 hour ago, Mike FF Today said: Patriots don't wait until Monday. They have fired Jerod Mayo. One and done. Don't you do it! Don't! You... I got nowhere else to go! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JagFan 140 Posted January 6 17 minutes ago, cmh6476 said: Doug Pedrrson out Thank goodness! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmh6476 997 Posted January 6 1 hour ago, JagFan said: Thank goodness! Nagy gets hired by someone like the Saints and he's probably back in KC as OC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,636 Posted January 6 How does Daboll still have a job? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,107 Posted January 6 7 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: How does Daboll still have a job? Because he’s still employed by the Gmen. HTH. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Showboat 251 Posted January 6 21 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: How does Daboll still have a job? The real question is how does their GM still have a job. The issue with the Giants is mostly personnel (particularly O-line and QB) rather than coaching. In 2022, when Daboll coaxed more out of the team than could be expected, it apparently fooled the GM into committing to Jones long term and thinking things were okay. I suppose Daboll bears some responsibility, if he was not lobbying to move on, but ultimately that should be the GM's decision/job. In most cases, the coaching churn because of a bad season record or two is not worth it. There are some cases where a coach is clearly out of his depth (Hackett with the 2022 Broncos and Mayo with the Patriots this year) and a one-and-done is justified, but other than that I think most teams would be wise to give a coach 4-5 seasons before pulling the plug. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,636 Posted January 7 16 hours ago, Showboat said: I suppose Daboll bears some responsibility A ton of responsibility. They got worse every year with Daboll as head coach and he refused to change his approach. I think he's a horrible coach. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmh6476 997 Posted January 7 Was a fairly quiet Monday Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmh6476 997 Posted January 7 took the Raiders until Tuesday to decide that they'd had enough of Antonio Pierce Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmh6476 997 Posted January 7 here's some coordinator and front office changes: Coordinators Shane Waldron – Chicago Bears Offensive Coordinator Luke Getsy – Las Vegas Raiders Offensive Coordinator Rich Scangarello – Las Vegas Raiders Quarterbacks James Cregg – Las Vegas Raiders Offensive Line OC Ken Dorsey, OL coach Andy Dickerson-Cleveland Browns Lou Anarumo-Bengals defensive coordinator Gus Bradley-DC Indianapolis Colts GM/front office Joe Douglas –New York Jets General Manager Ran Carthon--Tennessee Titans GM Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,527 Posted January 7 On 1/6/2025 at 7:45 AM, cmh6476 said: Nagy gets hired by someone like the Saints and he's probably back in KC as OC Nagy is a typical Saints move. Retread that is clearly not suited to be a head coach. Problem with the Saints is why would a good coach want that job when they are in cap hell. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 731 Posted January 8 19 hours ago, nobody said: Nagy is a typical Saints move. Retread that is clearly not suited to be a head coach. Problem with the Saints is why would a good coach want that job when they are in cap hell. I think a lot of coaches get a bad rap. Lots of times the coach takes the hit, but the real blame needs to be pointed at the GM. I am not suggesting Nagy is one of those, though he did coach for the bears. sometimes a bad team is a bad team. a good coach can make a bad team look good for a while. a great coach can make a bad team play good consistently. in the case of Nagy, they did have some good seasons in chicago even though they didnt have the qb play. so I'm not 100% sure hes a bad coach. I just dont think hes a great coach. and he might be a good coach as that bears team did perform for him at least for a while. I think he deserves another shot. New Orleans has its own problems though. they are tight to the cap and I think they may not be able to keep all their pending free agents. so unless they can reload successfully in the draft he may struggle with that team. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmh6476 997 Posted January 8 Jets request interview with Steve Spagnuolo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,527 Posted January 9 5 hours ago, Ray_T said: I think a lot of coaches get a bad rap. Lots of times the coach takes the hit, but the real blame needs to be pointed at the GM. I am not suggesting Nagy is one of those, though he did coach for the bears. sometimes a bad team is a bad team. a good coach can make a bad team look good for a while. a great coach can make a bad team play good consistently. in the case of Nagy, they did have some good seasons in chicago even though they didnt have the qb play. so I'm not 100% sure hes a bad coach. I just dont think hes a great coach. and he might be a good coach as that bears team did perform for him at least for a while. I think he deserves another shot. New Orleans has its own problems though. they are tight to the cap and I think they may not be able to keep all their pending free agents. so unless they can reload successfully in the draft he may struggle with that team. I think he's a good coordinator that has skills that don't translate to head coach. Coordinator and head coach are different skill sets, but teams can't seem to figure that out. An OC needs to be a tactician and be able to make a game plan and help develop a QB. A head coach needs to be able to build a culture, lead, organize, hold people accountable, and manage a game. They have to be very comfortable with conflict. They also need to understand the game like a coordinator as well, but the job is different. It's just like in any industry. Not everyone is cut out to lead. Leaders have to be comfortable with holding people accountable and command a room. A guy who is great at putting his head down and writing SW or a guy who is a great salesman isn't necessarily the best guy to lead a team. Not a lot of people have that gear (even though many people think they do). Adam Gase is a prime example. There is no way in hell that guy should've ever been a head coach. Hue Jackson is another good example. I watched him on hard knocks and that guy is not a head coach. You could see no one respected him, and what's more, he knew he shouldn't be head coach either. He carried himself like someone cos-playing a head coach and was a terrible leader. He was walking imposter syndrome. Matt Patricia is another example. Joe Judge is another example. Kingsbury another. That's Nagy, too. Good at Xs and Os. Suboptimal leading. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike FF Today 712 Posted January 13 Current head coach openings... Chicago Dallas Jacksonville Las Vegas New Orleans New York Jets Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,527 Posted January 13 Man, I haven't been keeping up with the news lately, but surprised Dallas is on there. I thought I heard a story that they denied the Bears permission to interview him or something like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,527 Posted January 13 What a bunch of terrible jobs. I guess Chicago is the best one. You presumably have your quarterback, and if you can build a line, you should do well. Dallas has Jerrah Jacksonville should be decent, but Khan and Balke Vegas fires coaches every year, and have no QB prospects. New Orleans is in cap hell Jets are dysfunctional Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,636 Posted January 14 11 hours ago, nobody said: Dallas has Jerrah This one is a mess. Jerrah's done lost his mind. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mufaletta 53 Posted January 14 Jerrah will hire Deion, and will be biggest sh*t show of '25. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Showboat 251 Posted January 15 6 hours ago, Mufaletta said: Jerrah will hire Deion, and will be biggest sh*t show of '25. Just like '24 (well, if you exclude the Jets). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmh6476 997 Posted January 16 Ben Johnson may be headed to Vegas. https://x.com/ProFootballTalk/status/1879643990053797960?t=QKn7fXNrLr-t4Ujz2Pm_vQ&s=19 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kutulu 1,642 Posted January 16 40 minutes ago, cmh6476 said: Ben Johnson may be headed to Vegas. https://x.com/ProFootballTalk/status/1879643990053797960?t=QKn7fXNrLr-t4Ujz2Pm_vQ&s=19 How many ex coaches are they still paying? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike FF Today 712 Posted January 22 On 1/13/2025 at 11:28 AM, Mike FF Today said: Current head coach openings... Chicago - Ben Johnson Dallas - Brian Schottenheimer Jacksonville - Liam Coen Las Vegas - Pete Carroll New Orleans New York Jets - Aaron Glenn Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,107 Posted January 22 AA Aron Glenn. Mmm that’s an interesting hire. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,107 Posted January 24 Carol now the Raiders HC, another interesting hire by the Raiders. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Showboat 251 Posted January 24 2 hours ago, weepaws said: Carol now the Raiders HC, another interesting hire by the Raiders. I guess if you don't want a long term solution and plan to replace the head coach every year or two (which the Raiders seem to do), hiring a 74 year-old head coach is not a bad idea. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,107 Posted January 24 Besides being the Bucs OC, anyone know much about the Jags new HC L Cohen? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JagFan 140 Posted January 25 16 hours ago, weepaws said: Besides being the Bucs OC, anyone know much about the Jags new HC L Cohen? Not much to know. His other notable in the NFL is OC for the SB winning 2022 Rams. We shall see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,107 Posted January 25 7 hours ago, JagFan said: Not much to know. His other notable in the NFL is OC for the SB winning 2022 Rams. We shall see. Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,107 Posted January 30 Kellen Moore, What team has he been coaching on? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
