Was Frontier Airlines racist to Khabib?

[Patented Phil 1,469]

FAA Regulations require that in order to sit in an exit row, you must be able to understand and speak English.

Tim Hack considers this racist.

[TimHauck 2,876]

23 minutes ago, Patented Phil said:

So you think the black flight attendant was being racist against the black passenger?

God you one insufferable idiot.

Never said that, in fact that particular passenger allegedly (jokingly) said she wouldn’t help anybody 

[TimHauck 2,876]

5 minutes ago, Patented Phil said:

FAA Regulations require that in order to sit in an exit row, you must be able to understand and speak English.

Which Khabib can do

[TimHauck 2,876]

25 minutes ago, Patented Phil said:

Frontier issued its statement today:

“On Jan. 11, 2025, as flight 4401 from Las Vegas to San Francisco was preparing for departure, a flight attendant initiated the customary briefing for exit row passengers. Customer Khabib Nurmagomedov, who was seated in an exit row, was asked multiple times if he was willing and able to assist in the event of an emergency. According to the flight attendant, Mr. Nurmagomedov did not respond, despite repeated attempts, which placed him in non-compliance with FAA requirements. The flight attendant informed Mr. Nurmagomedov that he could be moved to a different upgraded seat or exit the plane.

“Videos circulating on social media platforms do not capture this interaction, and instead show a subsequent interaction after a gate agent entered the plane and reiterated the option to be reseated. As a result of the customer’s initial unresponsiveness and repeated declinations of a seat change, he was asked to deplane per airline and FAA policy. The decision to deplane the customer was in no way related to his ethnicity and we have refunded him and his traveling companions for their flights.”

Bootlicker believing everything the airline says, lol

[listen2me 23 1,873]

There is no such thing as being racist to a person with white skin.  

Hey thems the rules.

[Patented Phil 1,469]

11 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Which Khabib can do

Yeah his English be great!  From his own post on X:

“Lady who comes to me with questions was very rude from the very beginning, even though I speak very decent English and can understand everything and agreed to assist, she still insists on removing me from my seat. What was the base for that, racial, national or other one, I'm not sure.”

Tim Hack - don’t ever change.  You are focking pure gold in here.

[TimHauck 2,876]

1 minute ago, Patented Phil said:

Yeah his English be great!  From his own post on X:

“Lady who comes to me with questions was very rude from the very beginning, even though I speak very decent English and can understand everything and agreed to assist, she still insists on removing me from my seat. What was the base for that, racial, national or other one, I'm not sure.”

Tim Hack - don’t ever change.  You are focking pure gold in here.

Yes that was written in English, that’s correct 

[seafoam1 3,025]

2 minutes ago, Patented Phil said:

Yeah his English be great!  From his own post on X:

“Lady who comes to me with questions was very rude from the very beginning, even though I speak very decent English and can understand everything and agreed to assist, she still insists on removing me from my seat. What was the base for that, racial, national or other one, I'm not sure.”

Tim Hack - don’t ever change.  You are focking pure gold in here.

Liberals are running out of things to call racist. 

[listen2me 23 1,873]

If someone deals with a white guy from Nebraska like that...its oh that stuff happens maybe she was having a bad day.  

If any confrontation happens with blacks or people from a different country....its straight to discrimination because they are different!  Or Racist!

Its laughable.  What privilege certain groups have in todays world.  Untouchable.  

[DonS 3,292]

21 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Bootlicker believing everything the airline says, lol

Please share the video of the initial interactions and then we can decide if airline is lying.

[Patented Phil 1,469]

10 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Yes that was written in English, that’s correct 

Look, Dummy.  BY LAW - Emergency exit seats come with responsibilities.  You must be able to effectively communicate with the crew to assist in an emergency.  If the crew determines you can’t meet that standard, you don’t get to stay in that seat. Period. 

[TimHauck 2,876]

1 minute ago, DonS said:

Please share the video of the initial interactions and then we can decide if airline is lying.

I already said previously we’d need to see that to confirm.  I also just said it “seemed” like they were being racist, did not make any definitive statements unlike @Patented Phil who sure seems convinced the employees from a garbage airline did nothing wrong.

6 hours ago, TimHauck said:

Kinda seems like it

https://twitter.com/Combat_Casuals/status/1878340040570384601

https://twitter.com/TeamKhabib/status/1878562981296165094
 

 

 

4 hours ago, TimHauck said:

Would have to see the initial convo when they did the exit row check.  If he’s flying coach now stands to reason he’s done it before and thus would be familiar with the exit row procedures.  His English seems pretty fine 

 

[DonS 3,292]

1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

I already said previously we’d need to see that to confirm.  I also just said it “seemed” like they were being racist, did not make any definitive statements unlike @Patented Phil who sure seems convinced the employees from a garbage airline did nothing wrong.

 

 

Yet when airline gave their side of the story you immediately called BS.

[TimHauck 2,876]

Just now, DonS said:

Yet when airline gave their side of the story you immediately called BS.

No I didn’t, I just laughed that he automatically believed it

[TimHauck 2,876]

13 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

If someone deals with a white guy from Nebraska like that...its oh that stuff happens maybe she was having a bad day.  

If any confrontation happens with blacks or people from a different country....its straight to discrimination because they are different!  Or Racist!

Its laughable.  What privilege certain groups have in today’s world.  Untouchable.  

Plenty of viral videos of white people getting into arguments on planes too.  This one went viral because he’s famous, not because of his nationality.

[DonS 3,292]

1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

No I didn’t, I just laughed that he automatically believed it

So I guess that means you didn't believe it then?   If you believed airline then why laugh? 

Probably just me  but I am honestly confused at your stance at this point.  

God bless.

Amen.

Josh Allen 3:16 - for God so loved the world that he blessed us with JA17.  LET'S GO BUFFALO!

 

[thegeneral 3,214]

Flying sucks. That is all. 

[Strike 5,544]

22 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

Liberals are running out of things to call racist. 

When the demand for racism exceeds the supply, make it up.....

[Strike 5,544]

1 minute ago, thegeneral said:

Flying sucks. That is all. 

Not when you fly your own plane......

[DonS 3,292]

1 minute ago, Strike said:

Not when you fly your own plane......

Up the Irons! 

(to be fair I think Bruce Dickinson has stopped piloting Ed Force One because he admits he's getting too old) 

[seafoam1 3,025]

1 minute ago, Strike said:

When the demand for racism exceeds the supply, make it up.....

No doubt. And you have to have your phone ready at ALL times to capture it on video. As long as you know how to chop  up the video and post it online. 

[Strike 5,544]

Just now, DonS said:

Up the Irons! 

(to be fair I think Bruce Dickinson has stopped piloting Ed Force One because he admits he's getting too old) 

I have no idea what any of this means

[DonS 3,292]

2 minutes ago, Strike said:

I have no idea what any of this means

 

 

[HellToupee 1,776]

8 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Flying sucks. That is all. 

Definitely. I hate flying and when the price is right I always go first class. I feel like a prisoner flying and act accordingly,  Yes, no and thanks i

I only fly Delta now

[TimHauck 2,876]

3 minutes ago, DonS said:

So I guess that means you didn't believe it then?   If you believed airline then why laugh? 

Probably just me  but I am honestly confused at your stance at this point.  

God bless.

Amen.

Josh Allen 3:16 - for God so loved the world that he blessed us with JA17.  LET'S GO BUFFALO!

 

Without the video, I don’t know what to believe.  But I think @Patented Phil is foolish to automatically believe Frontier 100%.

Here’s what we know from the video we do have which indicates racism may have been involved:

-Khabib was not acting aggressively

-Khabib was speaking English and said he could help.

-In that part of the video the flight attendant didn’t clarify why she was asking him to move, only that “it was up to their judgement”

In addition, we know that Khabib is a celebrity so is likely no stranger to flying.  How much he flies commercial maybe we don’t know, but I’d be surprised if he doesn’t know what an exit row is.  I guess it’s possible he didn’t hear her initially or something.

[BunnysBastatrds 2,442]

 I hate Frontier. They completely fawked me. As low as I’ll go is Spirit. They are worse than TACA airlines (take a chance airline) and Sahsa airline (Stay at home stay alive) 

[thegeneral 3,214]

Haven’t watched the video, don’t really care. Originally this was being tagged to Alaska Airlines which I have flown close to a million miles on so it popped on my radar.

Since it’s Frontier I’ll attribute it to 60% they suck and 40% flying sucks and it makes people go nuts.

[DonS 3,292]

27 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Flying sucks. That is all. 

This is one statement that is 100% non-partisan.

I usually fly Alaska since my travel is usually to DC and there is a nice non-stop between SEA and DCA.   Still sucks, but at least they offer a decent IPA from Fremont Brewing and has a free wifi deal for T-Mobile customers. 

[Strike 5,544]

29 minutes ago, DonS said:

 

 

 

Damn.  I had no idea.  That's focking cool. 

[DonS 3,292]

1 minute ago, Strike said:

 

Damn.  I had no idea.  That's focking cool. 

He's an interesting dude for sure. 

He dealt with the same poosay eating cancer that I ended up getting so I knew about  the rough road ahead of me having his read his autobiography.  I also knew I wouldn't die so I was calm in that respect.

I ended up sending his autobiography to @jerryskidsalong with my "FOCK CANCER" t-shirt I wore during chemo sessions when he started his throat cancer journey.  I would prefer to be Eskimo Brothers with Jerry, but at least we're part of the cancer survivor brotherhood.

[thegeneral 3,214]

12 minutes ago, DonS said:

This is one statement that is 100% non-partisan.

I usually fly Alaska since my travel is usually to DC and there is a nice non-stop between SEA and DCA.   Still sucks, but at least they offer a decent IPA from Fremont Brewing and has a free wifi deal for T-Mobile customers. 

The only number I have memorized other than my wife’s, my parent’s home number…is a buddy who has TMobile so I get the free WiFi

[HellToupee 1,776]

20 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Haven’t watched the video, don’t really care. Originally this was being tagged to Alaska Airlines which I have flown close to a million miles on so it popped on my radar.

Since it’s Frontier I’ll attribute it to 60% they suck and 40% flying sucks and it makes people go nuts.

This was about as low-key plane tossing as it can get. No yelling from either side. No prolonged exit 

[thegeneral 3,214]

9 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

This was about as low-key plane tossing as it can get. No yelling from either side. No prolonged exit 

I can respect that..If you are going to get tossed off the plane the least you can do is make it snappy so we can all get on our way. 

[DonS 3,292]

1 minute ago, thegeneral said:

The only number I have memorized other than my wife’s, my parent’s home number…is a buddy who has TMobile so I get the free WiFi

Yep.  T-Mobile customers can get an hour free every flight.  You can get unlimited for entire flight but it's something like up to 6 times a year.  That's when knowing my kids numbers - who are on our plan but pay their share - comes in handy.

[DonS 3,292]

5 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

This was about as low-key plane tossing as it can get. No yelling from either side. No prolonged exit 

Maybe he's like Barry Sanders and is simply acting like he's been there before?

[thegeneral 3,214]

1 minute ago, DonS said:

Yep.  T-Mobile customers can get an hour free every flight.  You can get unlimited for entire flight but it's something like up to 6 times a year.  That's when knowing my kids numbers - who are on our plan but pay their share - comes in handy.

I think it is now unlimited (not sure about the 6 times! I will need to check that so I don’t use my buddy’s passes up ). Just flew to NYC and back and was surfing that whole time…even streamed the Baltimore / Steeler game. 

[HellToupee 1,776]

5 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

I can respect that..,If you are going to get tossed off the plane the least you can do is make it snappy so we can all get on our way. 

He took his pinch like a man. Didn’t pull a “do you know who I am?”  . Stated his case and objections , got up and walked off. I’ve never seen him act any crazy way out in the public 

to me it looked like a miscommunication thing or like I mentioned earlier he just didn’t pay attention to her as an authoritarian figure

overblown

[thegeneral 3,214]

11 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

He took his pinch like a man. Didn’t pull a “do you know who I am?”  . Stated his case and objections , got up and walked off. I’ve never seen him act any crazy way out in the public 

to me it looked like a miscommunication thing or like I mentioned earlier he just didn’t pay attention to her as an authoritarian figure

overblown

That’s the way to handle it. 

[TimHauck 2,876]

2 hours ago, Patented Phil said:

Frontier issued its statement today:

“On Jan. 11, 2025, as flight 4401 from Las Vegas to San Francisco was preparing for departure, a flight attendant initiated the customary briefing for exit row passengers. Customer Khabib Nurmagomedov, who was seated in an exit row, was asked multiple times if he was willing and able to assist in the event of an emergency. According to the flight attendant, Mr. Nurmagomedov did not respond, despite repeated attempts, which placed him in non-compliance with FAA requirements. The flight attendant informed Mr. Nurmagomedov that he could be moved to a different upgraded seat or exit the plane.

“Videos circulating on social media platforms do not capture this interaction, and instead show a subsequent interaction after a gate agent entered the plane and reiterated the option to be reseated. As a result of the customer’s initial unresponsiveness and repeated declinations of a seat change, he was asked to deplane per airline and FAA policy. The decision to deplane the customer was in no way related to his ethnicity and we have refunded him and his traveling companions for their flights.”

one sign this is likely a lie: they’re claiming they offered him an UPGRADED seat?  When was the last time an airline (especially Frontier) offered someone an upgraded seat for allegedly not understanding the exit row instructions?

[thegeneral 3,214]

You have to listen to their little speech then look at them at say “yes”.

This isn’t hard. If you don’t do it then it’s on you.