Trump says Rachel Maddow is "the enemy of the people"

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43 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

1. Russian collusion in the 2016 election really did happen per the Mueller report. Mainstream media didn’t lie about that; Fox News did. 
2. The Hunter Biden laptop story was reported at the time but conservatives complained it wasn’t stressed enough and then later falsely insisted it was concerned up. In any event it was a minor story which had no impact on the 2020 election. 
3. Charlottesville was correctly reported. Trump’s damning comments were caught on tape. 
4. The MSM did not create the Bubba Wallace noose story; they reported what they were told at the time, which is their proper role. When the facts revealed it was not a hate crime that was reported to. 
5. Jussie Smollett- see point#4. 
 

I could go on and on. The MSM didn’t lie in ANY of these stories. 
 

Various media outlets, most of the legacy media, did lie....with regard to ALL of those situations.   And most people know and understand this fact now. Hence the migration of viewership away from them.

They are liars and have abused the public trust. 

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47 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

1. Russian collusion in the 2016 election really did happen per the Mueller report. Mainstream media didn’t lie about that; Fox News did. 
2. The Hunter Biden laptop story was reported at the time but conservatives complained it wasn’t stressed enough and then later falsely insisted it was concerned up. In any event it was a minor story which had no impact on the 2020 election. 
3. Charlottesville was correctly reported. Trump’s damning comments were caught on tape. 
4. The MSM did not create the Bubba Wallace noose story; they reported what they were told at the time, which is their proper role. When the facts revealed it was not a hate crime that was reported to. 
5. Jussie Smollett- see point#4. 
 

I could go on and on. The MSM didn’t lie in ANY of these stories. 
 

You should stop there because you're wrong on all of them.

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31 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

You should stop there because you're wrong on all of them.

Well except I’m not. 

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36 minutes ago, avoiding injuries said:

Got here late, but we’re all in agreement that Madcow is indeed the enemy of the people, right?

Correct.  

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1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

Well except I’m not. 

Well except you really are. 100%. That's not even debatable. Your cognitive dissonance or your willful ignorance is blinding you to the facts and what's happening in reality. 

Your liberalism is preventing you from thinking clearly because you're so beholden to your dogma. 

Free your mind. Tim

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Let’s take the Jussie Smollett story for one example. A black celebrity says he was attacked by MAGAs in white hoods. He alerts the media. Do you expect the media not to report this? It’s news. When it turns out that he lied and paid the guys to do it, the media reported that too. Smollett  comes away looking like a bad guy and an idiot, and the politicians that jumped to his defense look like fools for not waiting to learn the details. But how is any of this the responsibility of the mainstream media? How should they have behaved differently? I don’t see it. They did their job. 

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3 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Well except you really are. 100%. That's not even debatable. Your cognitive dissonance or your willful ignorance is blinding you to the facts and what's happening in reality. 

Your liberalism is preventing you from thinking clearly because you're so beholden to your dogma. 

Free your mind. Tim

Whenever you declare “that’s not even debatable” it always is. 

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4 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Well except I’m not. 

You can pretend you're right.  It's the consequence of the leftist media.  Proving Trump right.

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2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Whenever you declare “that’s not even debatable” it always is. 

Negative. Your post on the Hunter Biden laptop being a non-story is proof alone that you're in a deluded state. 

Every single one of those entities has come out and said that they suppress the story and that that really was a big deal. Yet here you are, saying that it was a non-story.  You say that because you're beholden to your dogma..

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7 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Let’s take the Jussie Smollett story for one example. A black celebrity says he was attacked by MAGAs in white hoods. He alerts the media. Do you expect the media not to report this? It’s news. When it turns out that he lied and paid the guys to do it, the media reported that too. Smollett  comes away looking like a bad guy and an idiot, and the politicians that jumped to his defense look like fools for not waiting to learn the details. But how is any of this the responsibility of the mainstream media? How should they have behaved differently? I don’t see it. They did their job. 

Let's switch the situation.  A white conservative celebrity walking in rural Texas claimed he was attacked by Antifa... how much coverage do you expect it gets?  Not much?  Yeah, same.  Because we know the second we hear that, we know there's some b.s. afoot.  Everyone's pumping on the breaks before they put it out.

You should listen to Dave Chappelle on this one.  The only reason why it was rushed to the headlines was because it fit the racist narrative that the Left has been pushing since '08 and '15 with Trump.   It's what happens when the demand for racism and homophobia outweighs the supply.

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3 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Let's switch the situation.  A white conservative celebrity walking in rural Texas claimed he was attacked by Antifa... how much coverage do you expect it gets?  Not much?  Yeah, same.  Because we know the second we hear that, we know there's some b.s. afoot.  Everyone's pumping on the breaks before they put it out.

If Jon Voight said he was attacked by Antifa it would be headline news. 

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6 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Negative. Your post on the Hunter Biden laptop being a non-story is proof alone that you're in a deluded state. 

Every single one of those entities has come out and said that they suppress the story and that that really was a big deal. Yet here you are, saying that it was a non-story.  You say that because you're beholden to your dogma..

I must have asked this question a thousand times but: if the Hunter Biden story was so suppressed, how come I knew about it well before the election, along with every other political junkie paying attention? 

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20 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I must have asked this question a thousand times but: if the Hunter Biden story was so suppressed, how come I knew about it well before the election, along with every other political junkie paying attention? 

Do you feel that legacy media was reporting fairly on the Hunter laptop topic?  Would you perhaps assert they would have treated it the exact same way had it been one of Trump's children?

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50 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Let's switch the situation.  A white conservative celebrity walking in rural Texas claimed he was attacked by Antifa... how much coverage do you expect it gets?  Not much?  Yeah, same.  Because we know the second we hear that, we know there's some b.s. afoot.  Everyone's pumping on the breaks before they put it out.

You should listen to Dave Chappelle on this one.  The only reason why it was rushed to the headlines was because it fit the racist narrative that the Left has been pushing since '08 and '15 with Trump.   It's what happens when the demand for racism and homophobia outweighs the supply.

Maybe when it did not remotely pass the smell test the media could have looked for corroboration before running whht the story. I am somewhat familiar with Chicago and there are cameras everywhere, where this was alleged to have happened.  A reporter would have checked the tape, a journalist would have checked the tape, gossip mongers with a political agenda, well they would rush to publish, as they did.  You are absolutley correct TBayromannumeral, Dave Chappelle nailed this.

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42 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

If Jon Voight said he was attacked by Antifa it would be headline news. 

If he said he was attacked by Antifa where he claimed to have been beaten by a couple of Antifa members, called a cracker, and had a KKK hood thrown over his head... I highly doubt anyone in the media would have reported anything other than "In the news today, Jon Voight was taken to a mental hospital......"

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2 hours ago, RLLD said:

Do you feel that legacy media was reporting fairly on the Hunter laptop topic?  Would you perhaps assert they would have treated it the exact same way had it been one of Trump's children?

As I recall the reporting on the story it came out with the bogus repudiation already attached.  It came out that we are reporting what you might end up hearing, that Hunter Biden is a crack head whoremonger who wears tighty whities, but be aware 51 highly reputable intelligence officers with absolutley no connection to the Biden campaign have already repudiated the story and anyone who buys into it is a Trumplestiltskin.  The story was not reported, the innoculation of the story was reported.

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1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

Well except I’m not. 

Who did Russia collude with? 

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45 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

If Jon Voight said he was attacked by Antifa it would be headline news. 

And it would probably be trending on Twitter for days. 

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1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Who did Russia collude with? 

The Clinton's, but we can't talk about that... TRUMP!!!!

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6 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

If he said he was attacked by Antifa where he claimed to have been beaten by a couple of Antifa members, called a cracker, and had a KKK hood thrown over his head... I highly doubt anyone in the media would have reported anything other than "In the news today, Jon Voight was taken to a mental hospital......"

In related news Angelina Jolie stalker EG approached the aging sex symbol to offer to console her during this diffiult time.  By doing so he violated the restraining order Ms. Jolie has out on the mentally unstable man who was without pants when he approached the actress. 

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1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

I must have asked this question a thousand times but: if the Hunter Biden story was so suppressed, how come I knew about it well before the election, along with every other political junkie paying attention? 

You didn't "know about it.". You knew a laptop existed.  You were TOLD it was not his and, if it was, the contents were likely tampered with so you couldn't believe anything on it.  This despite the FACT that the FBI knew it was legit from day one.  And to this day you think there was nothing damning on the laptop.

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5 minutes ago, Strike said:

You didn't "know about it.". You knew a laptop existed.  You were TOLD it was not his and, if it was, the contents were likely tampered with so you couldn't believe anything on it.  This despite the FACT that the FBI knew it was legit from day one.  And to this day you think there was nothing damning on the laptop.

@The Real timschochet

On top of that, early on, any mention of it being Hunter Biden's laptop was deemed misinformation and any social media posts about it were condemned by liberal politicians (and media pundits), and pushed to have those posts taken down.  Twitter and Zuckerberg complied.

An actual Democrat, Matt Taibbi even testified to congress about it.  Of course, the liberals trashed him.

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12 minutes ago, Strike said:

You didn't "know about it.". You knew a laptop existed.  You were TOLD it was not his and, if it was, the contents were likely tampered with so you couldn't believe anything on it.  This despite the FACT that the FBI knew it was legit from day one.  And to this day you think there was nothing damning on the laptop.

That laptop is now crated and stored in the government facility that is holding Indiana Jones Ark of the Covenant. Never to be seen again. The Bidens are presumed innocent for good now by the liberals. "It never existed."

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1 hour ago, Engorgeous George said:

As I recall the reporting on the story, the story came out with the bogus repudiation already attached.  It came out that we are reporting what you might end up hearing, that Hunter Biden is a crack head whoremonger who wears tighty whities, but be awase 51 highly reputable intelligence officers with absolutley no connection to the Biden campaign have alrready repudiated the story and anyone who buys into it is a Trumplestiltskin.  The story was not reported, the innoculation of the story was reported.

Media followed the edicts of their cult leaders in the Democrat party, they worked diligently to protect a political player rather than report properly.....which they happily will do toward those who oppose their ideological masters.

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1 hour ago, RLLD said:

Do you feel that legacy media was reporting fairly on the Hunter laptop topic?  Would you perhaps assert they would have treated it the exact same way had it been one of Trump's children?

1. Yes. 
2. Yes. 

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1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

1. Yes. 
2. Yes. 

Understood.  You and I perceive the media very differently

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1 hour ago, TBayXXXVII said:

@The Real timschochet

On top of that, early on, any mention of it being Hunter Biden's laptop was deemed misinformation and any social media posts about it were condemned by liberal politicians (and media pundits), and pushed to have those posts taken down.  Twitter and Zuckerberg complied.

An actual Democrat, Matt Taibbi even testified to congress about it.  Of course, the liberals trashed him.

I had a dim view of Hunter Biden before that story and it hasn’t changed. The House under GOP control has spent the last two years trying to find ties between Hunter and Joe Biden’s campaign, and they found nothing. So I assume there isn’t anything. This is a non-story of little significance and the MSM reported it correctly IMO. 

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34 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I had a dim view of Hunter Biden before that story and it hasn’t changed. The House under GOP control has spent the last two years trying to find ties between Hunter and Joe Biden’s campaign, and they found nothing. So I assume there isn’t anything. This is a non-story of little significance and the MSM reported it correctly IMO. 

The why did Joe pardon Hunter dating back to 2014, preemptively?

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57 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Understood.  You and I perceive the media very differently

Tim is de-lulu. 

I'd bet my right t!t that if it were Trumps son/Barron's laptop it would have been treated MUCH differently. 

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2 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

Tim is de-lulu. 

I'd bet my right t!t that if it were Trumps son/Barron's laptop it would have been treated MUCH differently. 

Probably, because the right-wing spin machine woudn't have shouted from the mountaintops that this was the smoking gun that China, Ukraine & the Tooth fairy had paid  billions to implement policies favorable to them.  

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12 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

Probably, because the right-wing spin machine woudn't have shouted from the mountaintops that this was the smoking gun that China, Ukraine & the Tooth fairy had paid  billions to implement policies favorable to them.  

What's being "spun" by the right wing? 

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42 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

The why did Joe pardon Hunter dating back to 2014, preemptively?

I strongly disapproved of Biden’s pardons. But I don’t believe they prove anything. One of the main reasons I disapproved of them is because I knew they would cause people on the right to be even more suspicious. 

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21 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I strongly disapproved of Biden’s pardons. But I don’t believe they prove anything. One of the main reasons I disapproved of them is because I knew they would cause people on the right to be even more suspicious. 

LOL, you know what's funny?  Back during Trump's first term, the liberal media was saying that if Trump made any pre-emptive pardons for his friends and family, they would then know all those people were actually guilty.

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10 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

LOL, you know what's funny?  Back during Trump's first term, the liberal media was saying that if Trump made any pre-emptive pardons for his friends and family, they would then know all those people were actually guilty.

Ya know what else is funny? That Biden wouldn't have been compelled to issue the pardons if Don and MAGA weren't hell bent on retribution for mostly imagined offenses. Doesn't make what Biden did right, but there it is.

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3 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Ya know what else is funny? That Biden wouldn't have been compelled to issue the pardons if Don and MAGA weren't hell bent on retribution for mostly imagined offenses. Doesn't make what Biden did right, but there it is.

So you think the DOJ is capable of putting innocent people in prison? 

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12 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Ya know what else is funny? That Biden wouldn't have been compelled to issue the pardons if Don and MAGA weren't hell bent on retribution for mostly imagined offenses. Doesn't make what Biden did right, but there it is.

You know what else is funny?  If Biden's administration and party didn't constantly go after Trump on bull crap, they probably wouldn't have felt that way in the first place.

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6 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

So you think the DOJ is capable of putting innocent people in prison? 

I think you already know the answers I will give, just as I know where you're attempting to go with this question. Save it. Just because someone is innocent does not mean their professional lives will be negatively affected or even destroyed just by implication. It's not about the law, it's about fear.

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Just now, TBayXXXVII said:

You know what else is funny?  If Biden's administration and party didn't constantly go after Trump on bull crap, they probably wouldn't have felt that way in the first place.

Clearly we have different views on Trump's bull crap. Even if it's all true, and poor lil helpless toddler Donny was completely innocent of every single thing the DOJ wanted to pin on him, he would still be showing that he is a garbage human and president by using the DOJ as a tool against his enemies. Yet another point lost on MAGAmooks.

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1 minute ago, Fnord said:

I think you already know the answers I will give, just as I know where you're attempting to go with this question. Save it. Just because someone is innocent does not mean their professional lives will be negatively affected or even destroyed just by implication. It's not about the law, it's about fear.

Holy shitt. This from the guy that was cheering on every bullshitt charge levied against Trump from multiple jurisdictions. Shamelessness is the liberals superpower.  

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15 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Ya know what else is funny? That Biden wouldn't have been compelled to issue the pardons if Don and MAGA weren't hell bent on retribution for mostly imagined offenses. Doesn't make what Biden did right, but there it is.

Ok, so now you are feeding into the liberal fear mongering. 

"Trump is out to get us!!! We did nothing wrong!!!!  "

Typical clueless liberal.... Move on.