JagFan 149 Posted February 1 Reading a lot of opinions that there isn’t a franchise quality QB in this class. I tend to agree with this based on all the football I watched this year. Waiting until day two for Riley Leonard could be the best strategy this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jrokh 608 Posted February 1 There will be one franchise QB from this group, my money is on Cam Ward. He has the Arm talent to be successful. As always it depends where you go, and what you have around you... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 739 Posted February 1 8 hours ago, jrokh said: There will be one franchise QB from this group, my money is on Cam Ward. He has the Arm talent to be successful. As always it depends where you go, and what you have around you... yeah, and whether you end up with decent coaching at the pro level. I honestly think this is as important as the talent around the young QB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DocNiner 67 Posted February 2 12 hours ago, jrokh said: There will be one franchise QB from this group, my money is on Cam Ward. He has the Arm talent to be successful. As always it depends where you go, and what you have around you... Agree, he'll go early in round 1. Probably top 5.with trams that need a QB. QB S. SANDERS, has some upside but not sure he's a franchise QB. He'll.go 1st round as well on name recognition of his daddy, Prime Time Deion.Sanders. Must be something.in the blood,lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,480 Posted February 3 On 2/1/2025 at 8:47 AM, JagFan said: Reading a lot of opinions that there isn’t a franchise quality QB in this class. I tend to agree with this based on all the football I watched this year. Waiting until day two for Riley Leonard could be the best strategy this year. That's not hard to believe. Currently in the NFL, there's only 5 franchise QB's and they were drafted in 2017 (1), 2018 (2), & 2020 (2). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
polecatt 474 Posted February 3 I guess this kind of depends on exactly what a franchise QB means. If it's a QB a la Patick Mahomes or Jalen Hurts, that will make you a playoff team most years, and sometimes a Super Bowl contender, then I would say this doesn't appear to be the best season. That said, the number of good candidates is limited, but not completely missing. Cam Ward has some potential, it may take some time but I wouldn't be totally shocked if he develops into one of the better QBs in the NFL. Shedeur Sanders, It wouldn't surprise me if he's Jameis Winston 2.0, but I think there's also a bit of a chance he's the best or close to the best QB in the NFL in 5 years too. Maybe not as much of a chance as the one where he sucks, but it's there. If franchise QB is just simply a QB that a team will throw a lot of money at in a 2nd deal, in hopes of, I don't know, something, not really winning, a la Dak Prescott or Kirk Cousins, then I think there could be a few of those. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JagFan 149 Posted February 4 8 hours ago, polecatt said: I guess this kind of depends on exactly what a franchise QB means. If it's a QB a la Patick Mahomes or Jalen Hurts, that will make you a playoff team most years, and sometimes a Super Bowl contender, then I would say this doesn't appear to be the best season. That said, the number of good candidates is limited, but not completely missing. Cam Ward has some potential, it may take some time but I wouldn't be totally shocked if he develops into one of the better QBs in the NFL. Shedeur Sanders, It wouldn't surprise me if he's Jameis Winston 2.0, but I think there's also a bit of a chance he's the best or close to the best QB in the NFL in 5 years too. Maybe not as much of a chance as the one where he sucks, but it's there. If franchise QB is just simply a QB that a team will throw a lot of money at in a 2nd deal, in hopes of, I don't know, something, not really winning, a la Dak Prescott or Kirk Cousins, then I think there could be a few of those. Sanders is interesting. There’s no question he has the physical tools, but does he need to get away from coach Nickname to take that step in his mental development? And will he speak in 1st, 2nd, or 3rd person during his interviews? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
polecatt 474 Posted February 6 On 2/4/2025 at 1:04 AM, JagFan said: Sanders is interesting. There’s no question he has the physical tools, but does he need to get away from coach Nickname to take that step in his mental development? And will he speak in 1st, 2nd, or 3rd person during his interviews? Shedeur kind of reminds me of Cam Newton in the draft. I think most people expected Cam to be a bust, yet at the same time, everybody seemed to agree that he was the clear cut first pick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JagFan 149 Posted February 6 1 hour ago, polecatt said: Shedeur kind of reminds me of Cam Newton in the draft. I think most people expected Cam to be a bust, yet at the same time, everybody seemed to agree that he was the clear cut first pick. Cam put up arguably one of the best single season college seasons ever as far carrying his team to a national championship both throwing and running the ball. He would completely take a game over. The LSU game, 4th qtr was mind blowing. People expected him to be a bust because they didn’t trust his passing, and it was only one season. I see your point, but I don’t think Cam is the comparison here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,825 Posted February 6 On 2/1/2025 at 10:29 PM, DocNiner said: Agree, he'll go early in round 1. Probably top 5.with trams that need a QB. QB S. SANDERS, has some upside but not sure he's a franchise QB. He'll.go 1st round as well on name recognition of his daddy, Prime Time Deion.Sanders. Must be something.in the blood,lol. Both QBs will go top 5 and probably top 3 if not 1 and 2. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,480 Posted February 6 On 2/6/2025 at 6:49 AM, listen2me 23 said: Both QBs will go top 5 and probably top 3 if not 1 and 2. Every team picking in the top 7 (except for NE who drafted their guy last year), should be interested in taking a QB in R1, so yeah, you're probably right on this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
polecatt 474 Posted February 6 14 hours ago, JagFan said: Cam put up arguably one of the best single season college seasons ever as far carrying his team to a national championship both throwing and running the ball. He would completely take a game over. The LSU game, 4th qtr was mind blowing. People expected him to be a bust because they didn’t trust his passing, and it was only one season. I see your point, but I don’t think Cam is the comparison here. There really isn't a very good comparison to Shedeur. I think it's kind of uncharted territory. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmh6476 1,009 Posted February 11 I wonder who the Chiefs will be looking at Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DocNiner 67 Posted February 12 Yeah this class of QBs leaves a lot to be desired. Word has it that there will be 2 QBs.go in the 1st round with a possible 3rd one drafted. Consensus has Cam Ward being the first taken by the NY Giants and Shadeur Sanders going to the Las Vegas Raiders. The Titans and Browns have the first 2 picks and could really throw a monkey wrench into the whole draft. Not like that the Titans and Browns take Ward and Sanders at 1 & 2 but we know stranger things have happened. One name mentioned to possibly sneak into the 1st round is Jaxson Dart being drafted by the Steelers at 21. Possible as they're not sure how much Wilson has left in the tank and do they really want to rely on Justin Fields? I say 2 QBs go in the first round and.likely 3 to 5 going in day 2. After QB Dart there's Quinn Ewers, Jalen Milroe, Will Howard (of the national champs) and Riley Leonard. Of those just mentioned I think I'd favor Jalen Milroe as I feel he's pretty close to a dual threat QB. Yet I don't see any of them other than Ward and Sanders that will end up being franchise QBs to whatever team drafts them. Teams needy at QB could swing for the fences with a day 2 QB. Jets or the Saints could take one of them in the 2nd or 3rd round risking it. Couple of the teams could really look hard at acquiring Sam Darnold and which team wins that sweepstakes. Who would go after Aaron Rodgers if he even decides to play? Overall not a good QB class but the Giants and Raiders will.surely try to get a QB with their 1st pick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LaChup 228 Posted February 12 We are witnessing the era of Covid QBs. Just like our children, multiple years of stunted growth has set them to the back of the pack. I think Cameron Rising is the QB to draft. He has 10 years of college experience, a gray beard, three grandchildren, and old man retard strength. Pass on him at your own peril. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JagFan 149 Posted February 13 2 hours ago, LaChup said: We are witnessing the era of Covid QBs. Just like our children, multiple years of stunted growth has set them to the back of the pack. I think Cameron Rising is the QB to draft. He has 10 years of college experience, a gray beard, three grandchildren, and old man retard strength. Pass on him at your own peril. I remember when his dad, Bo Nix, finally left college. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DocNiner 67 Posted February 14 On 2/6/2025 at 9:19 AM, TBayXXXVII said: Every team picking in the top 7 (except for NE who drafted their guy last year), should be interested in taking a QB in R1, so yeah, you're probably right on this. You could be right. Early on a lot of draft pundits has Cam Ward to the Giants at 3 and Shadeur Sanders as the 2nd QB to the Raiders. I'm starting to think that scenario won't happen. I don't.think the TITANS believe that Will(mayonnaise) LEVIS is their franchise QB and since they have the 1st pick it might make sense for them to take Cam Ward with that #1 pick. If that happens then I guess the Giants will look hard at taking Shadeur Sanders at pick #3. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,480 Posted February 14 26 minutes ago, DocNiner said: You could be right. Early on a lot of draft pundits has Cam Ward to the Giants at 3 and Shadeur Sanders as the 2nd QB to the Raiders. I'm starting to think that scenario won't happen. I don't.think the TITANS believe that Will(mayonnaise) LEVIS is their franchise QB and since they have the 1st pick it might make sense for them to take Cam Ward with that #1 pick. If that happens then I guess the Giants will look hard at taking Shadeur Sanders at pick #3. I can see a scenario where the Titans trade down. If you're Tennessee, do you take Vegas' #1 and #2 this year and next year for #1 overall? Ward and Sanders may be the top 2, but what if the Titans like someone else (say McCord), just as much. Take him at #6 and add pick #37 and a potentially top 10 pick next year. Still, in this scenario, you're right that the Sanders and Ward are gone by pick #3... just might not be the two teams we expect. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 739 Posted February 14 On 2/6/2025 at 7:19 AM, TBayXXXVII said: Every team picking in the top 7 (except for NE who drafted their guy last year), should be interested in taking a QB in R1, so yeah, you're probably right on this. well, the top 3, Tennessee, Cleveland and New York desperately need a QB. 4 hours ago, TBayXXXVII said: I can see a scenario where the Titans trade down. If you're Tennessee, do you take Vegas' #1 and #2 this year and next year for #1 overall? Ward and Sanders may be the top 2, but what if the Titans like someone else (say McCord), just as much. Take him at #6 and add pick #37 and a potentially top 10 pick next year. Still, in this scenario, you're right that the Sanders and Ward are gone by pick #3... just might not be the two teams we expect. yes, if you dont believe in the guy at #1 of course you look to see if there are any good trade back options. Tennessee has enough holes in their lineup that if a team picking in the top 10 offers 2 number 1 picks and 2 number 2's I think you need to at least consider the offer. I dont think this is a situation where one player will turn this franchise around. Honestly Cleveland had the right idea in stocking up on #1 picks until they shot themselves in the foot with the Desean Watson signing. if they signed a QB who could play, they might still be a playoff contender. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,825 Posted February 19 On 2/14/2025 at 9:31 AM, DocNiner said: You could be right. Early on a lot of draft pundits has Cam Ward to the Giants at 3 and Shadeur Sanders as the 2nd QB to the Raiders. I'm starting to think that scenario won't happen. I don't.think the TITANS believe that Will(mayonnaise) LEVIS is their franchise QB and since they have the 1st pick it might make sense for them to take Cam Ward with that #1 pick. If that happens then I guess the Giants will look hard at taking Shadeur Sanders at pick #3. Mocks mean little at this stage. They all change the mock every other week. Each year they have QBs falling down the board. Only for them to go 1-2 on draft night. If Titans dont want one of the QBs, they would be dumb not to try and trade down a few spots. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 739 Posted February 20 On 2/19/2025 at 7:42 AM, listen2me 23 said: Mocks mean little at this stage. They all change the mock every other week. Each year they have QBs falling down the board. Only for them to go 1-2 on draft night. If Titans dont want one of the QBs, they would be dumb not to try and trade down a few spots. early mocks are done more to get clicks than for any other reason. I bet not all the scouting reports have even been fully analyzed yet The only picks at this point remotely predictable are likely the top 10 and that is very fluid at this point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,896 Posted February 22 Any of these QBs would have been QB 5 or 6 at best last season. Not a good class at all Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 739 Posted February 24 On 2/22/2025 at 4:32 PM, League Champion said: Any of these QBs would have been QB 5 or 6 at best last season. Not a good class at all I'd say its closer to being an average class. it mostly looks weak because this years class is so good. Possibly one of the best of all time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,738 Posted March 5 I think I'd wait and take a shot on Jaxson Dart, although he's climbing up draft boards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DocNiner 67 Posted March 9 Yeah I still only seen2 QBs even worthy of consideration in the first round. Cam Ward and Shedeur Sanders. An in ppartley QB Sanders has kind of sabotaged his own draft stock by being or seemingly disinterested in the interviews with potential suitors. So if he's doing this even before he gets drafted teams are going to sour on drafting.this kid. He'll still probably go 1st round but he.may not get picked as.high as.he thinks he.should. He's not even kn the NFL and he's already showing signs of being a diva and if that's the case his teammates and the locker room are going to be a problem.for him. What the heck is wrong with some of these youngsters/kids seem to have an entitlement.issues. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites