HotRod 70 Posted February 9 2 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said: Our Courts can hold the Executive branch to their Constitutional powers and duties and no more. Right you are and Pam Bondi and Donald Trump will never stop Doge from doing what they need to do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,187 Posted February 9 I do enjoy how quickly Democrats reverted to abusing the impeachment tool...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,092 Posted February 9 2 million for a commercial for the Secret Service made by Michael Bay Muh waste! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 1,782 Posted February 9 14 minutes ago, thegeneral said: 2 million for a commercial for the Secret Service made by Michael Bay Muh waste! Making sure Father Trump is protected from another Deep State assassination attempt: PRICELESS 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,908 Posted February 9 15 minutes ago, thegeneral said: 2 million for a commercial for the Secret Service made by Michael Bay Muh waste! Elon Musk has 4 thirty second commercials paid out of his own pocket to expose liberal corruption and Government waste. We should all be cheering this on Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,092 Posted February 9 10 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said: Making sure Father Trump is protected from another Deep State assassination attempt: PRICELESS Joel Schumacher wasn’t available? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,187 Posted February 9 I havent seen the Democrats this angry since we took their slaves away. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,544 Posted February 10 On 2/6/2025 at 6:32 PM, TrailGuy said: Look at who supports the closure of USAID. Putin, Medvedev, Orban, Bukele. All far right wing authoritarians. Enemies of the US, enemies of democracy. Was it democracy when Biden coerced Big Tech into silencing millions of Americans for their opinions and thoughts? Or what about when that old man lied to you and told you he didn’t know about his sons dealings and that the laptop didn’t exist? Was it democracy when he got 51 intelligence agents who we are supposed to trust, to go along with the lie and call it Russian disinformation? Oh here’s some good democracy… force people to choose between feeding their damn family and a damn shot in the arm that is causing damage to a lot of people? Maybe it was democracy when Biden flew in hundreds of thousands of migrants in the middle of the night without telling us and also opened the borders? Was it democracy when if we question elections or vaccines that we get silenced and are forced to self sensor just to survive? You can take your twisted idea of democracy and shove it up your ass. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,092 Posted February 10 Add Ivanka and Melania to the list of people who used to praise USAID Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 1,782 Posted February 10 13 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Add Ivanka and Melania to the list of people who used to praise USAID 7 years ago? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,908 Posted February 10 21 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Add Ivanka and Melania to the list of people who used to praise USAID 2018, before Biden's corruption and Woke agenda. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,193 Posted February 10 47 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Add Ivanka and Melania to the list of people who used to praise USAID I bet you say “super” a lot and speak with a lilt in your voice Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,092 Posted February 10 7 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: I bet you say “super” a lot and speak with a lilt in your voice I bet you hang out in the showers for an uncomfortable amount of time at your local Y. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,193 Posted February 10 Just now, thegeneral said: I bet you hang out in the showers for an uncomfortable time at your local Y. No Y where I live dumbass. But you seem to be in tuned with what goes on there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,092 Posted February 10 Just now, Hardcore troubadour said: No Y where I live dumbass. But you seem to be in tuned with what goes on there. so you drive a little. It’s ok if you putt from the rough old fella. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CaptainObvious1 368 Posted February 10 5 minutes ago, thegeneral said: I bet you hang out in the showers for an uncomfortable amount of time at your local Y. 2 minutes ago, thegeneral said: so you drive a little. It’s ok if you putt from the rough old fella. You have gone so downhill as a poster over the years. You're basically Daulton at this point. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,908 Posted February 10 6 minutes ago, thegeneral said: I bet you hang out in the showers for an uncomfortable amount of time at your local Y. Your fault, you voted for Men in Women's bathrooms/showers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,092 Posted February 10 Just now, CaptainObvious1 said: You have gone so downhill as a poster over the years. You're basically Daulton at this point. That means so much to me. Just having a meaningful convi with this excellent poster, HT. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,092 Posted February 10 3 minutes ago, League Champion said: Your fault, you voted for Men in Women's bathrooms/showers. HT isn’t in the ladies. HTH. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,160 Posted February 10 On 2/9/2025 at 5:36 AM, HotRod said: Yes this has been planned out for years. We knew this was coming. The writings of Curtis Yarvin and Peter Thiel laid out the blueprint. Dismantle the beauracracy, get real people in from corporate America to run things how they should be. Elon is the new CEO. Elon did this with Twitter and he's gonna do it with the US Government. Can't wait until we clear up this mess. I am going to assume that you are aware that Peter Thiel and Curtis Yarvin are both proponents of doing away with democracy and installing a Monarchy in which the POTUS is like the CEO of America. They are both on the record as stating "freedom and democracy are not compatible." Somehow they are both convinced that the best way to enact "freedom" is to have authoritarian rule. Ergo, you are supportive of an authoritarian state. Which is fine, you do you. But I wanted to make sure we are all clear on this point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HotRod 70 Posted February 10 4 minutes ago, Fnord said: I am going to assume that you are aware that Peter Thiel and Curtis Yarvin are both proponents of doing away with democracy and installing a Monarchy in which the POTUS is like the CEO of America. They are both on the record as stating "freedom and democracy are not compatible." Somehow they are both convinced that the best way to enact "freedom" is to have authoritarian rule. Ergo, you are supportive of an authoritarian state. Which is fine, you do you. But I wanted to make sure we are all clear on this point. I think they say some things for shock value but yeah I have no problem with having a strong leader that makes decisions for all of us. Look what democracy has gotten us? A bloated woke corruption filled pig that does not serve the people. I want a smaller efficient government run by a CEO-like person and I like where we are headed. I'm not alone it's what America voted for. It's time we get some common sense around here and Trump is the man to lay the smack down and Elon is the man to run it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,187 Posted February 10 7 minutes ago, Fnord said: I am going to assume that you are aware that Peter Thiel and Curtis Yarvin are both proponents of doing away with democracy and installing a Monarchy in which the POTUS is like the CEO of America. They are both on the record as stating "freedom and democracy are not compatible." Somehow they are both convinced that the best way to enact "freedom" is to have authoritarian rule. Ergo, you are supportive of an authoritarian state. Which is fine, you do you. But I wanted to make sure we are all clear on this point. You are somewhat correct and somewhat incorrect. I think you are being perhaps a little unfair to Theil. Yarvin is something of an advocate for a post-democratic system and his assertions that Democracy is corrupt is on point of course, but then again most governments are. He has promoted a sort of “neocameralist” form of government, and while I do not agree with most of his conclusions, he does raise formidable observations. While Thiel has voiced criticism of democracy, he is really more focused on the technical aspects and seems to object to the incredible inefficiencies, but does not appreciate that the Democratic system tends to be less harsh as his alternatives. He has not explicitly called for the abolition of democracy or the installation of a monarchy. He seems to point toward how businesses serve the primary interest of efficiency and value, and how CEO's tend to be rather good at returning value. I do not share all of their opinions and conclusions, but I allow they have some good arguments. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,160 Posted February 10 5 minutes ago, HotRod said: I think they say some things for shock value but yeah I have no problem with having a strong leader that makes decisions for all of us. Look what democracy has gotten us? A bloated woke corruption filled pig that does not serve the people. I want a smaller efficient government run by a CEO-like person and I like where we are headed. I'm not alone it's what America voted for. It's time we get some common sense around here and Trump is the man to lay the smack down and Elon is the man to run it. Do you think we should keep electing this "strong leader" or should we just do away with that? And are you bothered by potential illegalities, or of the mind that POTUS essentially has the power to do whatever they want, existing law be damned? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,574 Posted February 10 6 minutes ago, HotRod said: I think they say some things for shock value but yeah I have no problem with having a strong leader that makes decisions for all of us. Look what democracy has gotten us? A bloated woke corruption filled pig that does not serve the people. I want a smaller efficient government run by a CEO-like person and I like where we are headed. I'm not alone it's what America voted for. It's time we get some common sense around here and Trump is the man to lay the smack down and Elon is the man to run it. So if I understand you correctly, you would prefer an efficient, well-run autocracy to an inefficient, sloppy democracy? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,574 Posted February 10 I believe it was Winston Churchill who said that democracy is the worst form of government…except for all the others. Mussolini got the trains to run on time. Be careful what you guys wish for… Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HotRod 70 Posted February 10 1 minute ago, Fnord said: Do you think we should keep electing this "strong leader" or should we just do away with that? And are you bothered by potential illegalities, or of the mind that POTUS essentially has the power to do whatever they want, existing law be damned? From what I've seen so far it's been interpretations of the law and there are some bad laws out there. We have the supreme court remember that. None of this matters anyway because it already happened and or is happening now and there is nothing you can do about it by crying on a forum. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HotRod 70 Posted February 10 3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: So if I understand you correctly, you would prefer an efficient, well-run autocracy to an inefficient, sloppy democracy? Yes and it's a majority of the country not just me. It's gonna work out well for you unless you're really really poor but oh well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,193 Posted February 10 1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said: I believe it was Winston Churchill who said that democracy is the worst form of government…except for all the others. Mussolini got the trains to run on time. Be careful what you guys wish for… I’m very worried. Democracy is at stake. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,574 Posted February 10 Just now, HotRod said: Yes and it's a majority of the country not just me. It's gonna work out well for you unless you're really really poor but oh well. No I don’t think the majority of Americans agree with you. Polls show that is NOT why they voted for Trump. In 4 years, perhaps 8 at most, a Democrat will be back in charge and undo most of what Trump is doing now. So I guess enjoy it while you can. But I have strong doubts you actually will. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,574 Posted February 10 3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: I’m very worried. Democracy is at stake. You should be worried about people like @HotRod and other MAGA types who would prefer a strong man- if you truly care about democracy that is. But they won’t win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HotRod 70 Posted February 10 Just now, The Real timschochet said: No I don’t think the majority of Americans agree with you. Polls show that is NOT why they voted for Trump. In 4 years, perhaps 8 at most, a Democrat will be back in charge and undo most of what Trump is doing now. So I guess enjoy it while you can. But I have strong doubts you actually will. Americans like waste fraud and abuse? Americans like paying for stuff they don't like? I don't think so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HotRod 70 Posted February 10 1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said: You should be worried about people like @HotRod and other MAGA types who would prefer a strong man- if you truly care about democracy that is. But they won’t win. Democracy is overrated pal. Look what democracy got us. Don't be scared of change. It's gonna happen so you can either cry about it or accept it and take advantage of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,574 Posted February 10 3 minutes ago, HotRod said: Americans like waste fraud and abuse? Americans like paying for stuff they don't like? I don't think so. They don’t like any of that, but they’d prefer you find a way to get rid of it without harming democracy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,574 Posted February 10 1 minute ago, HotRod said: Democracy is overrated pal. Look what democracy got us. Don't be scared of change. It's gonna happen so you can either cry about it or accept it and take advantage of it. It’s not going to happen, sorry. The guardrails (mainly the courts) are still there. Im concerned because Trump in this failed attempt is going to hurt a lot of people and I hate to see that. But it WILL fail. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,160 Posted February 10 3 minutes ago, HotRod said: Democracy is overrated pal. Look what democracy got us. Don't be scared of change. It's gonna happen so you can either cry about it or accept it and take advantage of it. I would argue that democracy has served us pretty well for the last 250 years, but of course everyone is entitled to their own opinion. And you feel that the majority of Americans are in agreement with you on this subject? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HotRod 70 Posted February 10 1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said: It’s not going to happen, sorry. The guardrails (mainly the courts) are still there. Im concerned because Trump in this failed attempt is going to hurt a lot of people and I hate to see that. But it WILL fail. The courts can't do anything. What is a court going to do? Is a judge going to physically arrest Trump or Musk or anyone else? No. We have all the power. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HotRod 70 Posted February 10 1 minute ago, Fnord said: I would argue that democracy has served us pretty well for the last 250 years, but of course everyone is entitled to their own opinion. And you feel that the majority of Americans are in agreement with you on this subject? Did you see the results of the last election? Do you see anyone stopping this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,574 Posted February 10 7 minutes ago, HotRod said: The courts can't do anything. What is a court going to do? Is a judge going to physically arrest Trump or Musk or anyone else? No. We have all the power. They’ve already stopped the USAID layoffs because you can’t bypass Congress. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HotRod 70 Posted February 10 9 minutes ago, Fnord said: I would argue that democracy has served us pretty well for the last 250 years, but of course everyone is entitled to their own opinion. And you feel that the majority of Americans are in agreement with you on this subject? Your side tried to tell us democracy was at stake. It was a loser. People don't care about democracy anymore. It's a different time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,641 Posted February 10 On 2/7/2025 at 3:04 PM, The Real timschochet said: I enjoy the pause. I hope it lasts. This really is a good agency. Emphasis mine... It definitely is not a good agency. Try to get something right at least once if you insist on having opinions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites