Hundreds of drag queens, activists & LGBTQ+ allies converge on Kennedy Center to protest Trump’s takeover

[thegeneral 3,565]

5 minutes ago, League Champion said:

Yet here you are, every minute of everyday  

Sometimes you want to hang at the dive bar!

[CaptainObvious1 368]

13 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Sometimes you want to hang at the dive bar!

When are you crashing the Kennedy Center?

[thegeneral 3,565]

9 minutes ago, CaptainObvious1 said:

When are you crashing the Kennedy Center?

I was not in attendance. It is hilarious that Trump is now the arbiter of the arts. Dude has zero taste and zero interests. 

[League Champion 1,926]

5 hours ago, thegeneral said:

I try to stay abreast of the topics of the day in the Geek Club! It’s drag queens, trannys, Joe Biden is a Ukrainian drug lord, and bible verses!

Why are you Googling Drag Queens? Are you moonlight at Schools reading to Kids??? 

I KNEW IT  

[Fumbleweed 555]

21 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Thanks. Isn't affirmation an important part of counseling, though? Being supportive of students finding their happiness, chasing their bliss, self discovery, etc? That is a far cry from openly advocating for surgical intervention. Is your contention that many of these counselors are jumping right into promoting surgery?

Affirming is certainly part of the process of counseling. But, affirming a person's value and worth is different than affirming every last idea they have. 

Let me give an example. And, I can't be too specific for confidentiality reasons even though the chances of someone local accessing information through the GC is about a million to one. Nevertheless, I have worked with a couple of students in recent years who believed they were transgender. In both cases, there was significant trauma underlying who they were and what they wanted. In both cases, I did not address the transgender ideation much at all. Instead, we worked on affirming who they were beyond that, particularly with respect to the trauma that had occurred in their lives prior to me meeting them. We worked on becoming whole, resilient people. 

In both cases, the transgender ideation faded because it was not rooted in reality for those students. They no longer hold to the idea that they wish to be transgender. I never spoke a discouraging word about any of that. I simply addressed the issues that I knew for sure were in need of addressing and left all of that other alone for now. Some would have begun to affirm the original idea in their head and missed the deeper, underlying stuff that had them grasping for something to hold and identify with. 

If you affirm every last idea that a child or adolescent has, you're not much of a helper and could do massive harm. Doesn't mean you have to shame them or be non-affirming per se. 

[thegeneral 3,565]

6 minutes ago, League Champion said:

Why are you Googling Drag Queens? Are you moonlight at Schools reading to Kids??? 

I KNEW IT  

I just used your links!

[League Champion 1,926]

1 minute ago, thegeneral said:

I just used your links!

I got them off your Tranny Boyfriend's hard drive  

[Tebok 443]

1 hour ago, jerryskids said:

You aren't obsessed with Trump?

 

Trump is the No. 1 news story in the world.

News about trans people is inside below the fold.

You obsess over Trump, too, only from a position of worshipping him like a god.

On the other hand, I see him as a threat to democracy.

You: obsess over Trump and trans.

Me: obsess over Trump.

The only time I think about trans people is when MAGAs start another thread about them here.

[League Champion 1,926]

1 minute ago, Tebok said:

The only time I think about trans people is when

You think about Trannies all the time Steve, don't lie. Your Party worships the Tranny Vote  

[jerryskids 7,062]

9 minutes ago, Fumbleweed said:

Affirming is certainly part of the process of counseling. But, affirming a person's value and worth is different than affirming every last idea they have. 

Let me give an example. And, I can't be too specific for confidentiality reasons even though the chances of someone local accessing information through the GC is about a million to one. Nevertheless, I have worked with a couple of students in recent years who believed they were transgender. In both cases, there was significant trauma underlying who they were and what they wanted. In both cases, I did not address the transgender ideation much at all. Instead, we worked on affirming who they were beyond that, particularly with respect to the trauma that had occurred in their lives prior to me meeting them. We worked on becoming whole, resilient people. 

In both cases, the transgender ideation faded because it was not rooted in reality for those students. They no longer hold to the idea that they wish to be transgender. I never spoke a discouraging word about any of that. I simply addressed the issues that I knew for sure were in need of addressing and left all of that other alone for now. Some would have begun to affirm the original idea in their head and missed the deeper, underlying stuff that had them grasping for something to hold and identify with. 

If you affirm every last idea that a child or adolescent has, you're not much of a helper and could do massive harm. Doesn't mean you have to shame them or be non-affirming per se. 

Great post, thanks. 

 

[Fnord 2,498]

13 minutes ago, Fumbleweed said:

Affirming is certainly part of the process of counseling. But, affirming a person's value and worth is different than affirming every last idea they have. 

Let me give an example. And, I can't be too specific for confidentiality reasons even though the chances of someone local accessing information through the GC is about a million to one. Nevertheless, I have worked with a couple of students in recent years who believed they were transgender. In both cases, there was significant trauma underlying who they were and what they wanted. In both cases, I did not address the transgender ideation much at all. Instead, we worked on affirming who they were beyond that, particularly with respect to the trauma that had occurred in their lives prior to me meeting them. We worked on becoming whole, resilient people. 

In both cases, the transgender ideation faded because it was not rooted in reality for those students. They no longer hold to the idea that they wish to be transgender. I never spoke a discouraging word about any of that. I simply addressed the issues that I knew for sure were in need of addressing and left all of that other alone for now. Some would have begun to affirm the original idea in their head and missed the deeper, underlying stuff that had them grasping for something to hold and identify with. 

If you affirm every last idea that a child or adolescent has, you're not much of a helper and could do massive harm. Doesn't mean you have to shame them or be non-affirming per se. 

Thank you, well put. Seems like you are providing a crucial service to these kids, and as a parent, that is appreciated.

[thegeneral 3,565]

9 minutes ago, League Champion said:

I got them off your Tranny Boyfriend's hard drive  

Of course you do! Your PC is so filthy and filled with viruses that you are running at dial up speeds.

[League Champion 1,926]

4 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

viruses

I don't care about your herpes General. That's between you and your Tranny Lovers  

[jerryskids 7,062]

13 minutes ago, Tebok said:

Trump is the No. 1 news story in the world.

News about trans people is inside below the fold.

You obsess over Trump, too, only from a position of worshipping him like a god.

On the other hand, I see him as a threat to democracy.

You: obsess over Trump and trans.

Me: obsess over Trump.

The only time I think about trans people is when MAGAs start another thread about them here.

I obsess over trannies? I comment in threads occasionally to provide my opinion, but it's hardly an obsession.

[TheNewGirl 1,635]

48 minutes ago, Fumbleweed said:

Affirming is certainly part of the process of counseling. But, affirming a person's value and worth is different than affirming every last idea they have. 

Let me give an example. And, I can't be too specific for confidentiality reasons even though the chances of someone local accessing information through the GC is about a million to one. Nevertheless, I have worked with a couple of students in recent years who believed they were transgender. In both cases, there was significant trauma underlying who they were and what they wanted. In both cases, I did not address the transgender ideation much at all. Instead, we worked on affirming who they were beyond that, particularly with respect to the trauma that had occurred in their lives prior to me meeting them. We worked on becoming whole, resilient people. 

In both cases, the transgender ideation faded because it was not rooted in reality for those students. They no longer hold to the idea that they wish to be transgender. I never spoke a discouraging word about any of that. I simply addressed the issues that I knew for sure were in need of addressing and left all of that other alone for now. Some would have begun to affirm the original idea in their head and missed the deeper, underlying stuff that had them grasping for something to hold and identify with. 

If you affirm every last idea that a child or adolescent has, you're not much of a helper and could do massive harm. Doesn't mean you have to shame them or be non-affirming per se. 

This is really fascinating to me. Great post. 

 

 

[squistion 2,492]

1 hour ago, TheNewGirl said:

False. 

https://www.cureus.com/articles/185716-temporal-trends-in-gender-affirmation-surgery-among-transgender-and-non-binary-minors#!/

Children HAVE had gender affirming surgery (GAS) and it's increasing over time. This study was done in 2023. 

Mainly, females are removing their breasts. 

No males under 18 have had their weenie chopped off for "gender affirmation surgery" in this country, which was what was claimed and what I responded to. 

[League Champion 1,926]

3 minutes ago, squistion said:

No males under 18 have had their weenie removed for "gender affirmation surgery" in this country, which was what was claimed and what I responded to. 

When your weenie no longer works, it's essentially removed. What's the difference? 

[TheNewGirl 1,635]

13 minutes ago, squistion said:

No males under 18 have had their weenie chopped off for "gender affirmation surgery" in this country, which was what was claimed and what I responded to. 

You said no one is "chopping up kids." 

Breast removal doesn't count? Only removal of the wiener? 

Jazz Jennings literally had their wiener removed as a minor. They started transitioning at age 11; primarily so they wouldn't develop the secondary male characteristics and could have "bottom surgery" earlier. 

 

[squistion 2,492]

11 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

You said no one is "chopping up kids." 

Breast removal doesn't count? Only removal of the wiener? 

Jazz Jennings literally had their wiener removed as a minor. 

It appears she was 17 at the time and I assume that under then Florida law, she must have been of the age to give legal consent as far as making the decision on this (I can't find any links discussing the legal issues that were faced at the time)

[League Champion 1,926]

1 hour ago, thegeneral said:

Sometimes you want to hang at the dive bar!

What makes them so violent? 

 

 

[TheNewGirl 1,635]

https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-transyouth-data/

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The Komodo analysis of insurance claims found 56 genital surgeries among patients ages 13 to 17 with a prior gender dysphoria diagnosis from 2019 to 2021. Among teens, “top surgery” to remove breasts is more common. In the three years ending in 2021, at least 776 mastectomies were performed in the United States on patients ages 13 to 17 with a gender dysphoria diagnosis, according to Komodo’s data analysis of insurance claims. This tally does not include procedures that were paid for out of pocket.

It's happening. Not sure what other info you need. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,339]

35 minutes ago, League Champion said:

What makes them so violent? 

 

 

Mental illness.  100% of the time - EVERY time.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,339]

39 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-transyouth-data/

It's happening. Not sure what other info you need. 

You realize you're wasting your time with Squiztard, right?  This is the guy who believes that the Rainbow Mob has no Civil Rights protections and started an actual thread about.  Literally said they could be fired for being ghey.  I can certainly provide the links if you're interested.

He's the king of propaganda, misinformation and denial.  If you bust him on his "facts", he then moves the goalposts or denies he ever said it.  If you provide him facts, he finds any reason to pooh-pooh them and then disregard them as they don't fit the narrative.  But damn if he won't find some obscure poster on Twitter or TikTok supporting his view and then repost here as 100% FACTZZZZZ!

You're talking to a guy who Scientologists point to and say "that guy's in a cult".

[Herbivore 1,193]

6 hours ago, RLLD said:

Well, there are parents who will subject their children to being cut up....and there are those who refuse to vaccine them. I think in both instance those parents are insane, and hurting their children. I disagree vehemently with both.  There is certainly no shortage of instances where vaccinations are mandated, and the Democrats have long decried those who want to make their own health decisions....

So I think this notion that we should cut up children who are navigating natural paths of self discovery, is likely even worse than denying them vaccines.

If adults want to make those decisions for themselves, fine, have at it....but sweet jesus, can liberals please leave the kids alone??

I don't think "subject" is the right word there. I think that would be a word people use that believe parents are pushing them toward this in some way. Parents indoctrinate children in many ways, I would say in religion the most. With gender, I expect that most raise their kids as the sex that we would all assume. And then when presented with a child that starts to go down this path there is a lot of soul searching about what to do. I am sure we can find parents that slap dresses on their boy and lead them in this way too, with what that leads to with varying results.

What do you mean about Dems long decrying those who want to make their own health decisions? That has been an R staple. 

As to the natural paths, I think you say this cause you see this as mental illness. I don't think it is. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,911]

3 hours ago, Tebok said:

Trump is the No. 1 news story in the world.

News about trans people is inside below the fold.

You obsess over Trump, too, only from a position of worshipping him like a god.

On the other hand, I see him as a threat to democracy.

You: obsess over Trump and trans.

Me: obsess over Trump.

The only time I think about trans people is when MAGAs start another thread about them here.

Rusty used to say “below the fold”. Anyone heard from him? Hope he’s doing ok. I know he was having some personal issues. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,339]

8 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Rusty used to say “below the fold”. Anyone heard from him? Hope he’s doing ok. I know he was having some personal issues. 

"personal issues" would be an understatement.  He's having a full blow mental illness incident - for at least a decade or more.

[TheNewGirl 1,635]

22 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Rusty used to say “below the fold”. Anyone heard from him? Hope he’s doing ok. I know he was having some personal issues. 

I did a search and looks like you've said it a few times too....maybe YOU are Rusty.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,339]

9 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

I did a search and looks like you've said it a few times too....maybe YOU are Rusty.

Y'know, rusty used to say "maybe YOU are Rusty" too. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,911]

7 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

I did a search and looks like you've said it a few times too....maybe YOU are Rusty.

Have I ? lol. But I think it was sarcasm, directed at Rusty. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,911]

23 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

"personal issues" would be an understatement.  He's having a full blow mental illness incident - for at least a decade or more.

Have you spoken to him? I know he had taken on many additional cats in order to help him out with his grief. Tell him I said Hi and to hang in there. It’s only four years and considering he’s 60 that’s only like 1/4 of his time left on earth, using average life expectancy.  

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,339]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

Have you spoken to him? I know he had taken on many additional cats in order to help him out with his grief. Tell him I said Hi and to hang in there. It’s only four years and considering he’s 60 that’s only like 1/4 of his time left on earth, using average life expectancy.  

Sorry, I don't hang out at the Liberal Truckstop glory hole - I just heard he was institutionalized due to his mental illness.

You can ask TrailGhey, TheGirlfriend, Teebok or Squiztard how he's doing since they're usually hanging out with him at the aforementioned glory hole.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,911]

2 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Sorry, I don't hang out at the Liberal Truckstop glory hole - I just heard he was institutionalized due to his mental illness.

You can ask TrailGhey, TheGirlfriend, Teebok or Squiztard how he's doing since they're usually hanging out with him at the aforementioned glory hole.

Well, The Girlfriend is an incredible POS that would probably give up his personal info so I won’t be asking that filth. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,339]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Well, The Girlfriend is an incredible POS that would probably give up his personal info so I won’t be asking that filth. 

Well, if there is any perfect place for a POS to be, it's in a toilet stall at the truck stop.

[Tebok 443]

41 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

I did a search and looks like you've said it a few times too....maybe YOU are Rusty.

Wow, you might be onto something.

I'm not Rusty, but I'm flattered that I've stirred the pot enough to remind people of him.

The RDS around here is amazing.

[seafoam1 3,404]

2 hours ago, TheNewGirl said:

I did a search and looks like you've said it a few times too....maybe YOU are Rusty.

"Maybe"? 

[seafoam1 3,404]

2 hours ago, Tebok said:

Wow, you might be onto something.

I'm not Rusty, but I'm flattered that I've stirred the pot enough to remind people of him.

The RDS around here is amazing.