LIBERATION DAY: US economy now in reverse

[SaintsInDome2006 392]

16 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Liberals rooting for China. Our number one threat. The one that sends spies here and spits in our face by flying a spy balloon across the country. Employs slave labor. Biggest polluter on earth. Abuses Africans. Trump wrecked you people. 

Trump make all his merch over there. He's got banking accounts, trademarks over there...

[jbycho 605]

31 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Trump make all his merch over there. He's got banking accounts, trademarks over there...

I'm happy for you that you are hurting.

But why do you want to share it constantly on this site? Have some pride for God's sake.

Or, get smarter and be like those of us who are not hurting. 

[supermike80 1,809]

1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Liberals rooting for China. Our number one threat. The one that sends spies here and spits in our face by flying a spy balloon across the country. Employs slave labor. Biggest polluter on earth. Abuses Africans. Trump wrecked you people. 

I was discussing that this morning.   The posts about how "containers coming in from China are only 1/2 full!!!"    And Americans losing their minds over that

[MDC 7,145]

47 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Trump make all his merch over there. He's got banking accounts, trademarks over there...

His bitcoin grift is in the UAE.  

[Hardcore troubadour 14,954]

10 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

I was discussing that this morning.   The posts about how "containers coming in from China are only 1/2 full!!!"    And Americans losing their minds over that

Maybe someday they will be empty. Hopefully. 

[jbycho 605]

Fock China. I didn't know liberals wanted to contribute to their wealth this much. 

[MDC 7,145]

Is Ivanka’s fashion line still manufactured there? 

[MDC 7,145]

Tell me again why I’m supposed to be pissed at Chiner?

They didn’t “take” US manufacturing jobs. We allowed US businesses to manufacture there (and other places) in exchange for cheap goods. And most of the manufacturing they do over there is for stuff we don’t want to build here anyway. No American workers want to work in a textile factory or build plastic widgets, and no American consumers want to spend more for those products.

They steal IP and subsidize their businesses, but I never hear about that. I just hear that we’re getting “screwed” because we … buy their product? Including US product that’s built over there, like Don and Ivanka’s fashion brand. 

You can make a case that Americans should consumer less and be willing to spend more $ for a US made product. But Don never made that argument until Liberation Day blew up in his face. 

Why am I supposed to be pissed at a foreign country that owes us nothing, vs. the US businesses that offshore their jobs? 

[purdygood 334]

5 minutes ago, MDC said:

Tell me again why I’m supposed to be pissed at Chiner?

They didn’t “take” US manufacturing jobs. We allowed US businesses to manufacture there (and other places) in exchange for cheap goods. And most of the manufacturing they do over there is for stuff we don’t want to build here anyway. No American workers want to work in a textile factory or build plastic widgets, and no American consumers want to spend more for those products.

They steal IP and subsidize their businesses, but I never hear about that. I just hear that we’re getting “screwed” because we … buy their product? Including US product that’s built over there, like Don and Ivanka’s fashion brand. 

You can make a case that Americans should consumer less and be willing to spend more $ for a US made product. But Don never made that argument until Liberation Day blew up in his face. 

Why am I supposed to be pissed at a foreign country that owes us nothing, vs. the US businesses that offshore their jobs? 

Larry from Oklahoma can't wait to start his new job making Barbie dolls for 10 hours a day...  this will surely get him out of the trailer park, into a Mansion and driving a Tesla in no time.

[Strike 5,216]

36 minutes ago, MDC said:

Is Ivanka’s fashion line still manufactured there? 

Probably not since it went belly up during his first term. 

[The Real timschochet 6,446]

58 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

I was discussing that this morning.   The posts about how "containers coming in from China are only 1/2 full!!!"    And Americans losing their minds over that

As well they should; it means much higher prices and scarcity for most  household items. It means less work for truckers, shippers, retail. It’s pain we absolutely don’t need, and it affects every segment of the economy. 

[jbycho 605]

10 minutes ago, MDC said:

Tell me again why I’m supposed to be pissed at Chiner?

They didn’t “take” US manufacturing jobs. We allowed US businesses to manufacture there (and other places) in exchange for cheap goods. And most of the manufacturing they do over there is for stuff we don’t want to build here anyway. No American workers want to work in a textile factory or build plastic widgets, and no American consumers want to spend more for those products.

They steal IP and subsidize their businesses, but I never hear about that. I just hear that we’re getting “screwed” because we … buy their product? Including US product that’s built over there, like Don and Ivanka’s fashion brand. 

You can make a case that Americans should consumer less and be willing to spend more $ for a US made product. But Don never made that argument until Liberation Day blew up in his face. 

Why am I supposed to be pissed at a foreign country that owes us nothing, vs. the US businesses that offshore their jobs? 

Coming from a tranny lover. 

[MDC 7,145]

2 minutes ago, Strike said:

Probably not since it went belly up during his first term. 

How about Don’s? Still in China or did he move production to Vietnam?

[MDC 7,145]

5 minutes ago, purdygood said:

Larry from Oklahoma can't wait to start his new job making Barbie dolls for 10 hours a day...  this will surely get him out of the trailer park, into a Mansion and driving a Tesla in no time.

Assuming Larry from Oklahoma is willing to work, he deserves a living wage and healthcare, housing, etc. I think his anger has been creatively misdirected at China by a charlatan, instead of Wall Street and DC where it belongs. 

[supermike80 1,809]

4 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

As well they should; it means much higher prices and scarcity for most  household items. It means less work for truckers, shippers, retail. It’s pain we absolutely don’t need, and it affects every segment of the economy. 

Maybe.   Unsure yet.  And I gotta imagine it hurts China..a lot.  I realize you think that doesn't matter...You've said it enough.

And I work in trucking.   Truckers will be just fine.  Believe me

[jbycho 605]

9 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

Maybe.   Unsure yet.  And I gotta imagine it hurts China..a lot.  I realize you think that doesn't matter...You've said it enough.

And I work in trucking.   Truckers will be just fine.  Believe me

Not if Tim guy says otherwise.

He's been proven right 0% of the time. 

[Ron_Artest 1,077]

“The Committee is attentive to the risks to both sides of its dual mandate and judges that the risks of higher unemployment and higher inflation have risen,” the post-meeting statement read.

Wednesday’s announcement coincides with increasing worries that a global trade war could send prices higher, complicate the central bank’s path toward bringing inflation down to its 2% goal.

Fed Chair Jerome Powell said during his post-decision press conference that if the “large increases in tariffs” that have been announced remain at their current levels, they could lead to a slowdown in economic growth, an uptick in long-term inflation and an increase in unemployment.

[supermike80 1,809]

7 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Fed Chair Jerome Powell said during his post-decision press conference that if the “large increases in tariffs” that have been announced remain at their current levels, they could lead to a slowdown in economic growth, an uptick in long-term inflation and an increase in unemployment.

Interesting.   No numbers to it.  How much?  Any idea?   Nah, just panic.   I get it

[Ron_Artest 1,077]

6 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

Interesting.   No numbers to it.  How much?  Any idea?   Nah, just panic.   I get it

You're accusing the Chair of the federal reserve of spreading panic?

[SaintsInDome2006 392]

1 hour ago, supermike80 said:

Interesting.   No numbers to it.  How much?  Any idea?   Nah, just panic.   I get it

FYI.

[supermike80 1,809]

1 hour ago, Ron_Artest said:

You're accusing the Chair of the federal reserve of spreading panic?

No. Im accusing you of it.

[supermike80 1,809]

13 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

FYI.

So again.  No numbers.   Are you ok?

[Alias Detective 1,389]

2 hours ago, purdygood said:

Larry from Oklahoma can't wait to start his new job making Barbie dolls for 10 hours a day...  this will surely get him out of the trailer park, into a Mansion and driving a Tesla in no time.

If everyone makes a million dollars a year but others make 2 million you still won’t be happy.

[thegeneral 2,920]

3 minutes ago, Alias Detective said:

2 hours ago, purdygood said:

Larry from Oklahoma can't wait to start his new job making Barbie dolls for 10 hours a day...  this will surely get him out of the trailer park, into a Mansion and driving a Tesla in no time.

If everyone makes a million dollars a year but others make 2 million you still won’t be happy.

Won’t be happening

They will just shift manufacturing of this stuff to somewhere else, won’t be here.

[The Real timschochet 6,446]

2 hours ago, supermike80 said:

Maybe.   Unsure yet.  And I gotta imagine it hurts China..a lot.  I realize you think that doesn't matter...You've said it enough.

And I work in trucking.   Truckers will be just fine.  Believe me

That’s not what I’m reading locally:

https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2025-05-03/trumps-tariffs-hit-truckers-and-port-workers

[Horseman 2,369]

1 hour ago, Ron_Artest said:

You're accusing the Chair of the federal reserve of spreading panic?

* note - another reading comprehension example 

[Ron_Artest 1,077]

14 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

No. Im accusing you of it.

I just shared the opinion of the fed chair.

[shadrap 222]

1 hour ago, Ron_Artest said:

You're accusing the Chair of the federal reserve of spreading panic?

you are forgetting the words in your quote, "could lead to".

[Hardcore troubadour 14,954]

Knew I could get him to defend China. Wish I could bet on this stuff.

[Ron_Artest 1,077]

27 minutes ago, Horseman said:

* note - another reading comprehension example 

You mean compression?

[Horseman 2,369]

20 minutes ago, shadrap said:

you are forgetting the words in your quote, "could lead to".

He can't read.  He copies chatgpt without even understanding it. 

[SaintsInDome2006 392]

2 hours ago, supermike80 said:

Maybe.   Unsure yet.  And I gotta imagine it hurts China..a lot.  I realize you think that doesn't matter...You've said it enough.

And I work in trucking.   Truckers will be just fine.  Believe me

Well you did ask for numbers.

- The white line is 2025 fyi.

[supermike80 1,809]

9 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Well you did ask for numbers.

- The white line is 2025 fyi.

Wasnt what i requested numbers for.  But whatever

[supermike80 1,809]

51 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

That’s not what I’m reading locally:

https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2025-05-03/trumps-tariffs-hit-truckers-and-port-workers

Paywalled.  Saw the headline however that it will lead to a loss of jobs. 

Yes it will.  The port trucking jobs.  Truck drivers with experience and a good safety history can get another job tomorrow.  

 

[SaintsInDome2006 392]

12 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

Wasnt what i requested numbers for.  But whatever

I realize, you raised trucking, volume is down considerably from this time last year.

[supermike80 1,809]

5 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

I realize, you raised trucking, volume is down considerably from this time last year.

No.  Not that either.  

[SaintsInDome2006 392]

3 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

No.  Not that either.  

Trucking is down though, a lot. You're saying truckers will be fine. It doesn't look like it. 

[jbycho 605]

4 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Trucking is down though, a lot. You're saying truckers will be fine. It doesn't look like it. 

You don't know what you are talking about, do you? 

Because you are way off base. 

[SaintsInDome2006 392]

1 minute ago, jbycho said:

You don't know what you are talking about, do you? 

Because you are way off base. 

 

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What is the Outbound Tender Volume Index (OTVI) & What Does it Tell Me?

The Outbound Tender Volume Index (OTVI) is an index of electronically tendered freight volumes on a given day.

A tender is a load offer from a shipper to a trucking company that is sent electronically. These are actual loads and are transmitted a few days before they are scheduled to be picked up. This is the most current and reliable indicator of market demand.

The FreightWaves SONAR outbound tender volume index (OTVI.USA) shows tender load volumes for the U.S. Users can also drill down to specific regions and market granularity. The index was created with a base of 10,000 on a national level from March 1, 2018 volumes. OTVI.USA currently is at 9,214. This means that outbound tender volumes for the entire USA are at 92.14% of their March 1, 2018 levels. The formula to calculate this is: 9,214/10,000= 92.14%. 

 

 

[Ron_Artest 1,077]

7 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Trucking is down though, a lot. You're saying truckers will be fine. It doesn't look like it. 

He's clearly full of shít just cucking for his daddy