2025 Budget

[thegeneral 2,903]

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Something has to give. Cutting Medicaid is politically unwise, tax cut extension is certainly going to happen.

Will all play out over next few months.

Edited February 23 by thegeneral

[League Champion 1,896]

56 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

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Something has to give. Cutting Medicare is politically unwise, tax cut extension is certainly going to happen.

Will all play out over next few months.

Are you afraid that they'll cut off reassignment surgeries for Spider Monkeys? Doge is cutting off Billions in fat which will let them allocate.money for where it really needs to go. 

And guess what, Biden never used a dime of his infrastructure Bill for infrastructure. It's all gone!!!! 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,930]

42 minutes ago, League Champion said:

Are you afraid that they'll cut off reassignment surgeries for Spider Monkeys? Doge is cutting off Billions in fat which will let them allocate.money for where it really needs to go. 

And guess what, Biden never used a dime of his infrastructure Bill for infrastructure. It's all gone!!!! 

What they aren’t getting is that the bullshitt spending may have happened, but it won’t be continued like it is. 

[TrailGuy 552]

I will stand with the lower and middle class magas as they turn their back on trump after cutting their Medicare and Medicaid so that musk can make more money.

[thegeneral 2,903]

We’ll see what DOGE ends up netting out. It’s a tiny fraction of the tax cut.

Not seeing specifics on what would be cut from Medicaid benefits but 900 billion over a decade is a big number.

Donald says it won’t be touched and that it will be “loved and cherished”.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,930]

People are routinely living to 90 and beyond now. Something has to happen. From my own experience many people in their 80’s are going to the doctors at least once a week. It’s unsustainable.  

[TrailGuy 552]

29 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

People are routinely living to 90 and beyond now. Something has to happen. From my own experience many people in their 80’s are going to the doctors at least once a week. It’s unsustainable.  

So you support less doctor visits for old people so that rich people can pay less in taxes?

[Red White and Blue 81]

Tax cuts for the wealthy and belt tightening for the lower classes. 

Mitt Romney with a Twitter handle. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,930]

33 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

So you support less doctor visits for old people so that rich people can pay less in taxes?

The unnecessary visits. There are plenty. People in and out of these appointments in 15-20 minutes total after answering a few questions. That should be done on the  phone. Not Medicare, but last time I had a colonoscopy I had to go to the doctor first. Answered a few questions, he pushed on my abdomen asked if it hurt and that was it. I got to pay a co-pay and drive there and sit in a waiting room for that. Unnecessary and costly. 

[weepaws 3,154]

Trump did call Epstein friend.  

[League Champion 1,896]

1 hour ago, Red White and Blue said:

Tax cuts for the wealthy and belt tightening for the lower classes. 

Mitt Romney with a Twitter handle. 

You're sounding like THEM now.  

[Horseman 2,358]

2 hours ago, thegeneral said:

We’ll see what DOGE ends up netting out. It’s a tiny fraction of the tax cut.

Not seeing specifics on what would be cut from Medicaid benefits but 900 billion over a decade is a big number.

Donald says it won’t be touched and that it will be “loved and cherished”.

You're a moron.  Let me explain what's going on. The Trump administration has challenged the Department of Energy and Commerce to find the 900 billion. You see they oversee all kinds of stuff: Environmental, Energy, Health,  Oversight and Investgations, Communication and Technology.  There isn't ANY specifics yet on which of those are getting cuts. But, some sky screamers in the media took it upon themselves to connect one particular set of dots; DoEC - Health - Medicaid.  They get guppies like you worked up by saying they are going to cut Medicaid when if fact there is zero evidence of that yet.  

[thegeneral 2,903]

12 minutes ago, Horseman said:

You're a moron.  Let me explain what's going on. The Trump administration has challenged the Department of Energy and Commerce to find the 900 billion. You see they oversee all kinds of stuff: Environmental, Energy, Health,  Oversight and Investgations, Communication and Technology.  There isn't ANY specifics yet on which of those are getting cuts. But, some sky screamers in the media took it upon themselves to connect one particular set of dots; DoEC - Health - Medicaid.  They get guppies like you worked up by saying they are going to cut Medicaid when if fact there is zero evidence of that yet.  

Right there are no specifics. Thats what the thread is about, dope.

[TrailGuy 552]

1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

The unnecessary visits. There are plenty. People in and out of these appointments in 15-20 minutes total after answering a few questions. That should be done on the  phone. Not Medicare, but last time I had a colonoscopy I had to go to the doctor first. Answered a few questions, he pushed on my abdomen asked if it hurt and that was it. I got to pay a co-pay and drive there and sit in a waiting room for that. Unnecessary and costly. 

You're making an argument in favor of telehealth?  Yeah trump just cut that.

Do you think it's more important for old people to get healthcare or for Elon musk to become a trillionaire?

[Horseman 2,358]

22 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Right there are no specifics. Thats what the thread is about, dope.

There is no requirement to nor any valid reports that they intend to cut anything from Medicaid.  HTH

3 hours ago, thegeneral said:

Not seeing specifics on what would be cut from Medicaid benefits but..

 

[thegeneral 2,903]

1 minute ago, Horseman said:

There is no requirement to nor any valid reports that they intend to cut anything from Medicaid.  HTH

 

That’s exactly what I said you even quoted it. 880 billion to come from Commerce / Energy.

Again, Tony. That’s what the thread is about how do they get to this number without cuts. The make believe number from DOGE don’t come close.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,930]

34 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

You're making an argument in favor of telehealth?  Yeah trump just cut that.

Do you think it's more important for old people to get healthcare or for Elon musk to become a trillionaire?

Wow. You are unashamed with your plagiarism.  You do it quite often. It appears the Telehealth was being abused resulting in unnecessary costs.  I’d like it to be used properly. So much fraud with Medicare. 

[Red White and Blue 81]

You guys know Medicare and Medicaid are 2 different things right?

[Horseman 2,358]

1 hour ago, thegeneral said:

Right there are no specifics. Thats what the thread is about, dope.

 

39 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

That’s what the thread is about how do they get to this number without cuts.

So is about what they are going to cut or how they get the money without cuts?  Is English your second language?  

It's not what your link says. It's a sky screaming article about Medicaid. 

"President Trump’s vow to keep Medicaid intact is colliding headlong into the Republicans’ strategy to extend their 2017 tax cuts!!!!!"

Why link it if you didn't mean it.  One last time:  They haven't said they are nor do they need to cut Medicaid.  

[thegeneral 2,903]

4 minutes ago, Horseman said:

 

So is about what they are going to cut or how they get the money without cuts?  Is English your second language?  

It's not what your link says. It's a sky screaming article about Medicaid. 

"President Trump’s vow to keep Medicaid intact is colliding headlong into the Republicans’ strategy to extend their 2017 tax cuts!!!!!"

Why link it if you didn't mean it.  One last time:  They haven't said they are nor do the need they need to cut Medicaid.  

It’s about how they get a budget passed, you are really struggling this morning. Your retirement has softened your head!

Summary of where we are

 

[patweisers44 815]

57 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

The make believe number from DOGE don’t come close.

There  sure is a lot of liberal bitching about things that make up this "small" number.

[TrailGuy 552]

1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Wow. You are unashamed with your plagiarism.  You do it quite often. It appears the Telehealth was being abused resulting in unnecessary costs.  I’d like it to be used properly. So much fraud with Medicare. 

But now it's not going to be used at all anymore.  You did that.

[thegeneral 2,903]

12 minutes ago, patweisers44 said:

There  sure is a lot of liberal bitching about things that make up this "small" number.

The Donald voters who got canned complaining is kind of sad.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,930]

4 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

But now it's not going to be used at all anymore.  You did that.

It’s a shame greedy bastards have to take advantage. I blame them.  Maybe it can be brought back with better controls. 

[Fnord 2,051]

20 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

It’s a shame greedy bastards have to take advantage. I blame them.  Maybe it can be brought back with better controls. 

"Better controls" is just a euphemism for unelected deep state bureaucrats doing their jobs. Ironic.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,930]

43 minutes ago, Fnord said:

"Better controls" is just a euphemism for unelected deep state bureaucrats doing their jobs. Ironic.

No. It’s the health care industry not scheduling unnecessary procedures and billing us for it. Not happening? Ask Sonny. 

[Fnord 2,051]

22 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

No. It’s the health care industry not scheduling unnecessary procedures and billing us for it. Not happening? Ask Sonny. 

Just another example of your willingness to unquestioningly throw the baby out with the bathwater. Of course some healthcare providers do this. Of course there is waste and fraud in the system. That doesn't mean you nuke the whole thing while ignoring the huge amounts of people gaining benefit from it. I used to work at a clinic in an extremely rural area. Telehealth was a godsend for some of those folks; I billed for it. It costs less than an in-person visit in most cases, while also saving time and money in transportation for people who live on very tight budgets.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,930]

1 hour ago, Fnord said:

Just another example of your willingness to unquestioningly throw the baby out with the bathwater. Of course some healthcare providers do this. Of course there is waste and fraud in the system. That doesn't mean you nuke the whole thing while ignoring the huge amounts of people gaining benefit from it. I used to work at a clinic in an extremely rural area. Telehealth was a godsend for some of those folks; I billed for it. It costs less than an in-person visit in most cases, while also saving time and money in transportation for people who live on very tight budgets.

I’d like to see it continue. I said that before. TDS has you discombobulated again.  

[thegeneral 2,903]

DOGE will make up the spending so nothing will have to be cut!!!

oh wait 

[thegeneral 2,903]

Budget resolution passes The House.

Now the heavy lifting begins

[The Girlfriend 208]

On 2/24/2025 at 10:36 AM, Fnord said:

Just another example of your willingness to unquestioningly throw the baby out with the bathwater. Of course some healthcare providers do this. Of course there is waste and fraud in the system. That doesn't mean you nuke the whole thing while ignoring the huge amounts of people gaining benefit from it. I used to work at a clinic in an extremely rural area. Telehealth was a godsend for some of those folks; I billed for it. It costs less than an in-person visit in most cases, while also saving time and money in transportation for people who live on very tight budgets.

Where’s our "don’t let perfection be the enemy of the good", guy?

[TrailGuy 552]

Good.  Put it on the record that Republicans are trying to take away healthcare from poor people to give themselves tax cuts.  It's pure theft. Let the voters see it and watch what happens in 2 years.

[League Champion 1,896]

34 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

Good.  Put it on the record that Republicans are trying to take away healthcare from poor people to give themselves tax cuts.  It's pure theft. Let the voters see it and watch what happens in 2 years.

More fake Liberal BS narratives 

[Horseman 2,358]

1 hour ago, TrailGuy said:

Good.  Put it on the record that Republicans are trying to take away healthcare from poor people to give themselves tax cuts.  It's pure theft. Let the voters see it and watch what happens in 2 years.

Fake News.  But, whatever it takes to get the tax cuts is AOK with me. 4.5 trillion in tax cuts.   WINNING. 

[squistion 1,947]

https://x.com/ChrisMurphyCT/status/1894583268000833555

24% of Americans get their health insurance from Medicaid.

Seniors. Working families. Millions of kids.

Republicans voted tonight to burn Medicaid to the ground.

And for what? To fund a giant tax cut for their billionaire friends.

A moral abomination.

[edjr 6,578]

On 2/23/2025 at 11:24 AM, Hardcore troubadour said:

People are routinely living to 90 and beyond now. Something has to happen. From my own experience many people in their 80’s are going to the doctors at least once a week. It’s unsustainable.  

after 80, if you have no money you must leave the country 

[TrailGuy 552]

1 minute ago, squistion said:

https://x.com/ChrisMurphyCT/status/1894583268000833555

24% of Americans get their health insurance from Medicaid.

Seniors. Working families. Millions of kids.

Republicans voted tonight to burn Medicaid to the ground.

And for what? To fund a giant tax cut for their billionaire friends.

A moral abomination.

Yup.  The Republican party has done a complete 180 from campaign to administration.

They campaigned on helping the working class, fiscal responsibility, fighting corruption, etc.

Now they are the party of elitist billionaires cutting middle class jobs and programs so they can have more power and money.

That's a great message for the democratic party in 2026.

[MLCKAA 540]

24 minutes ago, squistion said:

https://x.com/ChrisMurphyCT/status/1894583268000833555

24% of Americans get their health insurance from Medicaid.

Seniors. Working families. Millions of kids.

Republicans voted tonight to burn Medicaid to the ground.

And for what? To fund a giant tax cut for their billionaire friends.

A moral abomination.

The tax cuts are only for billionaires.  Dang it!

[TrailGuy 552]

Just now, MLCKAA said:

The tax cuts are only for billionaires.  Dang it!

Don't worry you'll save your $800.  Everything is fine!

[The Girlfriend 208]

7 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

Don't worry you'll save your $800.  Everything is fine!

Garbage people. There isn’t a line he could cross that they wouldn’t support.