Kilmar Abrego Garcia Thread - Federal Judge halts human smuggling charges trial against Garcia

[dogcows 1,318]

5 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

parse

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chiefly British ˈpärz

 

parsed; parsing

Synonyms of parse

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to divide (a sentence) into grammatical parts and identify the parts and their relations to each other

What a clown. We all know exactly what you meant but then you seem to be trying to deny it. Grow up. 

[HellToupee 2,301]

3 minutes ago, dogcows said:

What a clown. We all know exactly what you meant but then you seem to be trying to deny it. Grow up. 

Learn to read numbnuts

 

IF TRUMP WAS A DICTATOR -he’s not . What do you think I meant by that? IF TRUMP WAS A DICTATOR 

I can’t believe you can’t grasp the sentence. Embarrassing 

[Horseman 2,758]

Mary Jones confirmed!!!!!!

[TimHauck 3,473]

6 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

Learn to read numbnuts

 

IF TRUMP WAS A DICTATOR -he’s not . What do you think I meant by that? IF TRUMP WAS A DICTATOR 

I can’t believe you can’t grasp the sentence. Embarrassing 

Do you think Abrego Garcia should have gotten “two in the hat”?

[seafoam1 3,535]

12 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Do you think Abrego Garcia should have gotten “two in the hat”?

Timhack. 

[Hardcore troubadour 16,090]

23 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Do you think Abrego Garcia should have gotten “two in the hat”?

All MS - 13 should. 

[dogcows 1,318]

56 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

Learn to read numbnuts

 

IF TRUMP WAS A DICTATOR -he’s not . What do you think I meant by that? IF TRUMP WAS A DICTATOR 

I can’t believe you can’t grasp the sentence. Embarrassing 

Yeah yeah because you put the “if he was a dictator” in there then it’s all cool to wish for Kilmar to get shot. Whatever. We’re not idiots, we know you’re showing your true colors.

[TimHauck 3,473]

7 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

All MS - 13 should. 

Well there’s not good evidence Abrego Garcia is MS-13…

[HellToupee 2,301]

8 hours ago, dogcows said:

Whatever. We’re not idiots, we know you’re showing your true colors.

You certainly a trying to prove that you are one.

[dogcows 1,318]

There were no charges against Kilmar until AFTER the botched deportation.

Instead of admitting a mistake, this administration will punish those caught up BY their mistakes.

https://apnews.com/article/kilmar-abrego-garcia-deportation-el-salvador-d10d1b3dc65330ad0e3f67b92e92d21e?utm_source=onesignal&utm_medium=push&utm_campaign=2025-12-30-Immigration+case
 

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NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) — A newly unsealed order in the criminal case against Kilmar Abrego Garcia reveals that high-level Justice Department officials pushed for his indictment, calling it a “top priority,” only after he was mistakenly deported and then ordered returned to the U.S. 

Abrego Garcia has pleaded not guilty in federal court in Tennessee to charges of human smuggling. He is seeking to have the case dismissed on the grounds that the prosecution is vindictive — a way for President Donald Trump’s administration to punish him for the embarrassment of his mistaken deportation.

 

[SUXBNME 1,633]

On 12/29/2025 at 3:52 AM, TimHauck said:

Well there’s not good evidence Abrego Garcia is MS-13…

Yes, there is. 

[squistion 2,677]

5 minutes ago, SUXBNME said:

Yes, there is. 

There is no evidence that the Trump Administration has provided that proves that Garcia is MS-13. NONE!

[seafoam1 3,535]

Just now, squistion said:

There is no evidence that the Trump Administration has provided that proves that Garcia is MS-13. NONE!

Yes there is. Give the illegal a choice. Death or deportation. I think that would be fair. 

[Ron_Artest 2,540]

2 minutes ago, squistion said:

There is no evidence that the Trump Administration has provided that proves that Garcia is MS-13. NONE!

Remember when they photoshopped ms13 on his hand and trump thought it was actually a tat

[Ron_Artest 2,540]

Unsealed order from DOJ today says that indicting Garcia was a top priority, further strengthening his case for vindictive prosecution and getting it tossed.  If you're dumb like jerryskids, vindictive prosecution is when the govt indicts you for retaliatory reasons, which is exactly what the trump DOJ has been doing multiple times.

[SUXBNME 1,633]

14 minutes ago, squistion said:

There is no evidence that the Trump Administration has provided that proves that Garcia is MS-13. NONE!

Kilmar Abrego Garcia is an MS-13 Gang member with a History of Violence | Homeland Security

[Ron_Artest 2,540]

1 minute ago, SUXBNME said:

Kilmar Abrego Garcia is an MS-13 Gang member with a History of Violence | Homeland Security

Oh, a link from dhs.  Why not just quote the liar in chief?

[SUXBNME 1,633]

12 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Remember when they photoshopped ms13 on his hand and trump thought it was actually a tat

The administration previously released a picture, digitally labelled with the characters M, S, 1 and 3, in an attempt to explain the meaning of the tattoos.

The symbols are open to interpretation. Experts who previously spoke to BBC Verify have cast doubt on the claim that these tattoos mean what Trump and his team allege.

However, Trump's nominee to run the Drug Enforcement Agency, Terrance Cole, told his Senate confirmation hearing that the tattoos are consistent with MS-13 associations.

[Horseman 2,758]

32 minutes ago, squistion said:

There is no evidence that the Trump Administration has provided that proves that Garcia is MS-13. NONE!

When was your last eye exam grandpa?  

[Ron_Artest 2,540]

15 minutes ago, SUXBNME said:

The administration previously released a picture, digitally labelled with the characters M, S, 1 and 3, in an attempt to explain the meaning of the tattoos.

The symbols are open to interpretation. Experts who previously spoke to BBC Verify have cast doubt on the claim that these tattoos mean what Trump and his team allege.

However, Trump's nominee to run the Drug Enforcement Agency, Terrance Cole, told his Senate confirmation hearing that the tattoos are consistent with MS-13 associations.

This isn't embarrassing to you?

 

[Hardcore troubadour 16,090]

You can’t expect guys that grew up in the mall to understand symbolism in gang culture.  They think if it doesn’t say Latin Kings or Bloods it’s not indicative. Well, that’s what they cling too anyway. Some guy on NPR said so.  

[TimHauck 3,473]

2 hours ago, squistion said:

There is no evidence that the Trump Administration has provided that proves that Garcia is MS-13. NONE!

There is some evidence. Mostly the confidential informant from around the time when he was picked up at the Home Depot.  But that’s about it.  Lol at anyone still trying to use the tattoo as evidence.

[TimHauck 3,473]

2 hours ago, SUXBNME said:

Kilmar Abrego Garcia is an MS-13 Gang member with a History of Violence | Homeland Security

Two judges did not determine he was in MS-13.  That is a lie.

[dogcows 1,318]

1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

You can’t expect guys that grew up in the mall to understand symbolism in gang culture.  They think if it doesn’t say Latin Kings or Bloods it’s not indicative. Well, that’s what they cling too anyway. Some guy on NPR said so.  

Where did you acquire your supposed expertise on gang culture?

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,590]

He had a previous deportation order 

[dogcows 1,318]

16 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Two judges did not determine he was in MS-13.  That is a lie.

Wow.

That page was written by a semi-literate person. It has multiple misspellings, grammatical errors, and is full of blatant bias not based on the facts. DHS is not staffed by the best people.

[Gepetto 1,485]

 

 

[TimHauck 3,473]

19 minutes ago, dogcows said:

Wow.

That page was written by a semi-literate person. It has multiple misspellings, grammatical errors, and is full of blatant bias not based on the facts. DHS is not staffed by the best people.

People such as DHS and @Strike think two judges ruled that, but if you read the actual rulings, they did not.

[Ron_Artest 2,540]

Just now, TimHauck said:

People such as DHS and @Strike think two judges ruled that, but if you read the actual rulings, they did not.

Asurtion falacy

[Hardcore troubadour 16,090]

39 minutes ago, dogcows said:

Where did you acquire your supposed expertise on gang culture?

Training. Experience. Also took a three day course at stony brook university, given by federal correction officers. Had training on gang graffiti. Was in a gang unit for three years. Any other questions scuzzball? 

[Ron_Artest 2,540]

2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Training. Experience. Also took a three day course at stony brook university, given by federal correction officers. Had training on gang graffiti. Was in a gang unit for three years. Any other questions scuzzball? 

So you think he has the word ms13 on his hand?

[Hardcore troubadour 16,090]

8 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

So you think he has the word ms13 on his hand?

Nope. He has symbols proclaiming him as a member.  You know a Latin king doesn’t have a tattoo on their hands that says “I’m a Latin King” right? Be pretty stupid to put MS-13 out in the open like that. Now I’m sure you can find some idiot that has done that, but it’s not the way they tend to go about it. I assume you’ve heard of gang signs? 

[Ron_Artest 2,540]

4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Nope. He has symbols proclaiming him as a member.  You know a Latin king doesn’t have a tattoo on their hands that says “I’m a Latin King” right? Be pretty stupid to put MS-13 out in the open like that. Now I’m sure you can find some idiot that has done that, but it’s not the way they tend to go about it. I assume you’ve heard of gang signs? 

So you're telling me Garcia wanted to show everyone he was ms13 by his tats, but he also wanted to hide it, but everyone knows what they mean anyway.  Gang squad logic I guess.

Has any other ms13 had the same tats?

[TimHauck 3,473]

6 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Nope. He has symbols proclaiming him as a member.  You know a Latin king doesn’t have a tattoo on their hands that says “I’m a Latin King” right? Be pretty stupid to put MS-13 out in the open like that. Now I’m sure you can find some idiot that has done that, but it’s not the way they tend to go about it. I assume you’ve heard of gang signs? 

Not all gangs put it out in the open.   MS-13 does.  Hope you didn’t have to pay anything for that class.

[Hardcore troubadour 16,090]

What did I say? They found a few pictures on the internet. That means all Ms-13 do it too. They couldn’t even do that right, showing tats on the back.  Clowns. 

[Ron_Artest 2,540]

4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

What did I say? They found a few pictures on the internet. That means all Ms-13 do it too. They couldn’t even do that right, showing tats on the back.  Clowns. 

Roberto Lovato, an assistant professor at University of Nevada, Las Vegas, whose memoir chronicled growing up in California during MS-13's early years, said although symbols are "notoriously difficult to interpret," he does not believe Abrego Garcia's tattoos are suggestive of MS-13 membership. 

Lovato also said current gang members he has spoken to do not believe Abrego Garcia's tattoos represent MS-13. 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-claim-kilmar-abrego-garcias-finger-tattoos-ms-13/?hl=en-US

[Hardcore troubadour 16,090]

Just to show how stupid Tim and gutter are, they do t seem to know that when you’re in prison , where most of those pictures are most likely from, you want tats that show you belong to a gang, for everyone to see. When you’re out putting in work, it’s not such a great idea. What can you do with these sheltered , no experience shut ins? I do laugh that I send them into a frenzy everytime. They were googling before they were done reading. lol.

[Hardcore troubadour 16,090]

2 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Roberto Lovato, an assistant professor at University of Nevada, Las Vegas, whose memoir chronicled growing up in California during MS-13's early years, said although symbols are "notoriously difficult to interpret," he does not believe Abrego Garcia's tattoos are suggestive of MS-13 membership. 

Lovato also said current gang members he has spoken to do not believe Abrego Garcia's tattoos represent MS-13. 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-claim-kilmar-abrego-garcias-finger-tattoos-ms-13/?hl=en-US

[TimHauck 3,473]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Just to show how stupid Tim and gutter are, they do t seem to know that when you’re in prison , where most of those pictures are most likely from, you want tats that show you belong to a gang, for everyone to see. When you’re out putting in work, it’s not such a great idea. What can you do with these sheltered , no experience shut ins? I do laugh that I send them into a frenzy everytime. They were googling before they were done reading. lol.

A skull doesn’t even logically represent a 3.  You lose.

 

[Ron_Artest 2,540]

I will listen to actual gang experts over a guy who has a record of lying about everything online.