The Psychic Observer 495 Posted April 14 4 minutes ago, Mark Davis said: So he applied for a visa and received one before crossing? Because if not, by definition he committed a crime. If he did, then I'll stand corrected but I don't believe that to be the case. On the last part, Tim and I had this discussion a couple days ago. I have no problem with what happened. I don't see a reason that the government and Solicitor General singled this guy out over everyone else. Why is there a massive conspiracy to railroad this one man? I feel it's likely he is affiliated with MS-13 and if he were a citizen I'd be more concerned about his due process. He's not. I get the argument to the other side, but we disagree. He was a legal resident and had no criminal record. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Psychic Observer 495 Posted April 14 2 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said: This is all that matters. Trump won yet again. And an innocent man's wife and kids lost. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Davis 338 Posted April 14 Just now, The Psychic Observer said: He was declared a legal resident and had no criminal record. But how was he here at all if he didn't illegally cross? He can't be here in the first place without the crime occurring. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,353 Posted April 14 43 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said: And a judge said he could legally stay in the US. Why do you magas keep ignoring that? Because we don't want El Salvador gang members in our country. Why do you besides your autism? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Psychic Observer 495 Posted April 14 Just now, Mark Davis said: But how was he here at all if he didn't illegally cross? He can't be here in the first place without the crime occurring. Yes he came here illegally but was later declared a legal resident. He was mistakenly sent to prison and deserves to come back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,121 Posted April 14 1 minute ago, The Psychic Observer said: He was a legal resident and had no criminal record. Maybe he should contact the U.S. Emabassy in El Salvador. Of course with him not being a U.S. Citizen and a past member of a terrorist organization he may get a cool reception. Still, I link the web page so that you can send a hard copy to him when you start a pen pal relationship with him. I understand those can lead to love and maybe even to conjugal visits, so there is hope for you two crazy kids. https://sv.usembassy.gov/deputy-secretary-landaus-call-with-minister-hill/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,353 Posted April 14 President of El Salvador says he won't let a terrorist from his country come back to America. SCOTUS orders Trump Admin to "facilitate" his return. There is nothing to facilitate. Case close. Rot in prison scumbag. WINNING. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Davis 338 Posted April 14 3 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said: Yes he came here illegally but was later declared a legal resident. He was mistakenly sent to prison and deserves to come back. So he did commit a crime. In my view I don’t want a criminal back. But more than the crime itself, the suspected ties to MS-13 should be enough. He deserves to be repatriated to El Salvador. I’m all for him receiving a trial there or to plead his case and have it heard. If he’s innocent of gang activity I don’t want him incarcerated, but he is a Salvadoran national. He is in the country he should be in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,599 Posted April 14 42 minutes ago, Mark Davis said: He illegally crossed our border to begin with, so he did commit a crime. A judge did issue an order barring his removal due to the threat of gang violence against him. Maybe being MS-13 would have something to do with that, then again maybe he isn't and it doesn't. The Trump administration and the Solictor General feel that he is affiliated with MS-13. Either way, an error leads to him getting deported to his country of origin where he is a citizen, El Salvador. At this point he is in the custody of his home country and their leader is saying he isn't being sent back. We have no treaty or right to demand him and I can't imagine a reason why the Trump administration would do anything to pressure them to do anything different. 39 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said: He was sent to prison because of our presidents opinion, and we are paying El Salvador to keep him in prison. If we wanted him back, he would be back. Your excuses are weak. Wait, if the guy is a citizen of El Salvador and they won’t send him back, then why are we paying them to keep him there? Where is DOGE when you need them? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 375 Posted April 14 3 minutes ago, Mark Davis said: So he did commit a crime The current president has been convicted of a crime. Around 34 counts IIRC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,392 Posted April 14 4 hours ago, Engorgeous George said: Sort of a modern day Botany Bay. THIS is Ceti Alpha 5! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Psychic Observer 495 Posted April 14 5 minutes ago, Mark Davis said: So he did commit a crime. In my view I don’t want a criminal back. But more than the crime itself, the suspected ties to MS-13 should be enough. He deserves to be repatriated to El Salvador. I’m all for him receiving a trial there or to plead his case and have it heard. If he’s innocent of gang activity I don’t want him incarcerated, but he is a Salvadoran national. He is in the country he should be in. In America everyone deserves due process. We don't send people to foreign prisons because we assume they committed a crime. That is dangerous. We both know that he's not going to get due process in El Salvador and he's going to die in that prison. All because of a mistake. His gang affiliations are Chicago bulls swag. You're better than this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 375 Posted April 14 4 hours ago, weepaws said: Shame on you for voting for a dictator Someone said it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 375 Posted April 14 4 hours ago, Engorgeous George said: Sort of a modern day Botany Bay. This deserves some kind of award. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,353 Posted April 14 4 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: The current president has been convicted of a crime. Around 34 counts IIRC. He should get busy and deport himself back to America. Dumbass 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 375 Posted April 14 3 minutes ago, Horseman said: He should get busy and deport himself back to America. Well since you bring it up his mother was an undocumented domestic servant and 2 of his wives probably got here illegally. Yeah chances are someone half-Salvadoran might be deported or charged or both for that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,599 Posted April 14 5 hours ago, Strike said: You will.....you will. True, we probably shouldn’t expect laws to be followed here if they’re actually going to blatantly disregard the constitution by trying to have him run for a third term. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,353 Posted April 14 1 minute ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: Well since you bring it up his mother was an undocumented domestic servant and 2 of his wives probably got here illegally. Yeah chances are someone half-Salvadoran might be deported or charged or both for that. Mary Anne MacLeod Trump became a U.S. citizen in 1942. Trump was born in 1946. Your TDS is showing again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 375 Posted April 14 1 minute ago, Horseman said: Mary Anne MacLeod Trump became a U.S. citizen in 1942. Trump was born in 1946. Yaknow Obama’s had to go to court to produce a birth certificate. No one has ever seen Mart McLeod’s papers. And even that info makes two of Trump’s siblings anchor babies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,353 Posted April 14 Just now, SaintsInDome2006 said: Yaknow Obama’s had to go to court to produce a birth certificate. No one has ever seen Mart McLeod’s papers. And even that info makes two of Trump’s siblings anchor babies. Who's Mart McLeod? You should totally start up your Trump isn't a citizen campaign. TDS on full display. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 375 Posted April 14 Just now, Horseman said: Who's Mart McLeod? You should totally start up your Trump isn't a citizen campaign. LOL. Apologies, Mary McLeod. Sure I’ll text Consul Miller, I’ll tee that right up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,825 Posted April 14 We should start up a deal with Europe. Particularly England. We lower tariff % and you take the illegals we have. Hey America sucks, is dangerous and has a dictator anyway to most Libs. So they would be better off in Europe anyway. Why would Mexicans flee to a dictatorship? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,353 Posted April 14 5 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: LOL. Apologies, Mary McLeod. Sure I’ll text Consul Miller, I’ll tee that right up. TDS TILT Trump deports illegals so the weaklings try to say Trump, voted US president twice, isnt a citizen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 375 Posted April 14 3 minutes ago, Horseman said: Trump deports illegals so the weaklings try to say Trump, voted US president twice, isnt a citizen. No I think he’s a citizen. I’m just saying a Mexican & his 2 wives with his & their heritage & lack of paperwork would be deportable or charged or both under his administration’s rules. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,182 Posted April 14 1 hour ago, The Psychic Observer said: What is "we"? His wife and kids want him back. His friends want him back. People who believe in the rule of law want him back. Note to young, horny, American chicks: Don't marry an illegal, especially not a gang banger. Now, to THIS particular horny American chick, my advice to you is that you apply for an El Salvador Visa. Assuming you're approved, which I would hope you would be since you're married to an El Salvadoran citizen, you can take your half illegal kids and move to El Salvador. I hear it's quite safe since the new administration took over down there and put all the gang bangers in prison. But your betrothed has worn out his welcome up here so that's your best option. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,353 Posted April 14 4 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: No I think he’s a citizen. I’m just saying a Mexican & his 2 wives with his & their heritage & lack of paperwork would be deportable or charged or both under his administration’s rules. Which wife isn't a citizen without proof? Link? Your TDS is showing again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,182 Posted April 14 57 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said: He was a legal resident and had no criminal record. This is a lie. You can keep spouting it but it's factually untrue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Psychic Observer 495 Posted April 14 9 minutes ago, Strike said: This is a lie. You can keep spouting it but it's factually untrue. A federal immigration judge granted him a legal protective order in 2019 that allowed him to stay in the U.S. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,182 Posted April 14 3 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said: A federal immigration judge granted him a legal protective order in 2019 that allowed him to stay in the U.S. Which banned alias is this again? It's hard to keep track of all of you trolls. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Psychic Observer 495 Posted April 14 Just now, Strike said: Which banned alias is this again? It's hard to keep track of all of you trolls. The one that keeps proving you to be a liar. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,583 Posted April 14 40 minutes ago, Horseman said: TDS TILT Trump deports illegals so the weaklings try to say Trump, voted US president twice, isnt a citizen. I thought Boyo was peak TDS but I was wrong Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,583 Posted April 15 6 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said: The one that keeps proving you to be a liar. Come clean gutterboi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,599 Posted April 15 1 hour ago, Strike said: This is a lie. You can keep spouting it but it's factually untrue. Serious question: can non-legal residents get work permits? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Davis 338 Posted April 15 1 hour ago, TimHauck said: Wait, if the guy is a citizen of El Salvador and they won’t send him back, then why are we paying them to keep him there? Where is DOGE when you need them? If El Salvador decides he needs to be released and we don't have anything to prosecute him for as was stated numerous times in this thread, they can cut him loose by all means. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Psychic Observer 495 Posted April 15 3 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Serious question: can non-legal residents get work permits? He was also in a union. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Davis 338 Posted April 15 1 hour ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: The current president has been convicted of a crime. Around 34 counts IIRC. OK. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 1,944 Posted April 15 55 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said: A federal immigration judge granted him a legal protective order in 2019 that allowed him to stay in the U.S. Don't try to confuse them with the facts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
avoiding injuries 1,505 Posted April 15 Another 80/20 issue that liberals find themselves on the wrong side again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadrap 220 Posted April 15 1 hour ago, TimHauck said: True, we probably shouldn’t expect laws to be followed here if they’re actually going to blatantly disregard the constitution by trying to have him run for a third term. so who is running for a 3rd term? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,599 Posted April 15 29 minutes ago, Mark Davis said: If El Salvador decides he needs to be released and we don't have anything to prosecute him for as was stated numerous times in this thread, they can cut him loose by all means. Ok, that doesn’t answer my question though. Are we paying for him to be imprisoned there? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites