The Real timschochet 6,534 Posted Tuesday at 04:15 PM Really cheering news this morning (for those of us who have always been opposed to this policy): https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-approval-rating-polls-2071579 Support for mass deportations as a top priority has dropped to 35%. https://theimmigrationhub.org/article/voters-overwhelming-support-pathway-to-citizenship-over-mass-deportation/ The American public supports a “pathway to citizenship” for undocumented immigrants over mass deportation. Everyone wants the violent criminals gone, no question about that. But when we’re talking about the hard working vast majority of undocumented immigrants, or detaining somebody’s abuela, the public doesn’t like it. They may have thought they wanted it but now they clearly don’t, and the more Trump and the ICE thugs push it, looks like the more unpopular it’s going to get. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 1,733 Posted Tuesday at 04:51 PM This blatant falsehood just simply isn’t true. 2 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,276 Posted Tuesday at 04:53 PM 2 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said: This blatant falsehood just simply isn’t true. Yep Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 630 Posted Tuesday at 04:56 PM I'm in love with mass deportation. If it identifies as a female I want to marry it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 1,825 Posted Tuesday at 05:04 PM Polls are fun! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheNewGirl 1,387 Posted Tuesday at 05:04 PM Always love links from ".org" sites. No bias there at all. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 630 Posted Tuesday at 05:07 PM 1 minute ago, TheNewGirl said: Always love links from ".org" sites. No bias there at all. "Immigrationhub" no less. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,534 Posted Tuesday at 05:10 PM 2 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said: Always love links from ".org" sites. No bias there at all. Of course there is bias. But they’re using polls to prove their point, and that’s at least SUPPOSED to be objective. Unlike @supermike80 I generally believe in polling. It’s not always right but it usually is. When polls showed, a few months back, that most Americans supported mass deportation I accepted that. I figured I was in the minority. On the overall issue of immigration I AM in the minority and always will be- I get that. But it’s nice to see a change on this particular issue, at least IMO. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 1,825 Posted Tuesday at 05:12 PM 1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said: Of course there is bias. But they’re using polls to prove their point, and that’s at least SUPPOSED to be objective. Unlike @supermike80 I generally believe in polling. It’s not always right but it usually is. When polls showed, a few months back, that most Americans supported mass deportation I accepted that. I figured I was in the minority. On the overall issue of immigration I AM in the minority and always will be- I get that. But it’s nice to see a change on this particular issue, at least IMO. Polls have lost all real value. They are almost always biased.....they used to gauge a position, now they are done and published to influence a position. I see that. Many people see that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
avoiding injuries 1,522 Posted Tuesday at 05:12 PM I understand it and it’s better than I thought. I can’t believe they reduced illegal crossings as much and as fast as they did. USA Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,148 Posted Tuesday at 05:14 PM I understand Melania is a big fan of the mass deportations and calls ICE daily to report herself. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,534 Posted Tuesday at 05:14 PM Just now, avoiding injuries said: I understand it and it’s better than I thought. I can’t believe the reduced illegal crossings as much and as fast as they did. USA I think most Americans approve of the increased tightness at the border and that’s the main thing they wanted. But they don’t appear to approve of the mass deportations. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,534 Posted Tuesday at 05:16 PM 3 minutes ago, supermike80 said: Polls have lost all real value. They are almost always biased.....they used to gauge a position, now they are done and published to influence a position. I see that. Many people see that. I think you’re being very simplistic here and really ignoring the amount of time, effort and technique most of these polling firms put in, not to mention their integrity. I think you’re overly dismissive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 1,825 Posted Tuesday at 05:20 PM 3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: I think you’re being very simplistic here and really ignoring the amount of time, effort and technique most of these polling firms put in, not to mention their integrity. I think you’re overly dismissive. And I think you're overly trusting. We are on very different ends of the spectrum with this. I do not believe in polls. I especially dont believe in polls published by media that has a known bias. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 630 Posted Tuesday at 05:23 PM How can a person who has lived 50 years and has never been polled by any .org believe in these stupid polls? Especially when the results don't match what the country voted for a few months earlier? In the 10's of millions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 1,733 Posted Tuesday at 05:42 PM I took a poll on my way to work. 100% approval ratings for Trump’s handling of illegal hombres. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheNewGirl 1,387 Posted Tuesday at 05:43 PM 1 minute ago, Tree of Knowledge said: I took a poll on my way to work. 100% approval ratings for Trump’s handling of illegal bad hombres. Fixored. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,276 Posted Tuesday at 06:12 PM 55 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: I think you’re being very simplistic here and really ignoring the amount of time, effort and technique most of these polling firms put in, not to mention their integrity. I think you’re overly dismissive. Did you say integrity? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,126 Posted Tuesday at 06:15 PM you people really are a joke. See a poll you like, HEY LOOK AT THIS POLL! Poll you disagree with? POLLS ARE FAKE! zero integrity. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,250 Posted Tuesday at 06:47 PM Wait you’re saying 35% don’t say it’s their biggest priority and that means Americans don’t support it??? you’re dumb. It’s not most Americans no 1 issue that would be the economy with immigration second among most rationale people do you ever use logic?? Like ever?? If they polled me in November it was my no 1 issues. Now it’s under control and the economy is no 1. It’s really that simple 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,004 Posted Tuesday at 06:49 PM It was very opaque when Trump said “mass deportation” 1000x. Tough concept to grasp. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 630 Posted Tuesday at 06:52 PM 5 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: Wait you’re saying 35% don’t say it’s their biggest priority and that means Americans don’t support it??? you’re dumb. It’s not most Americans no 1 issue that would be the economy with immigration second among most rationale people do you ever use logic?? Like ever?? If they polled me in November it was my no 1 issues. Now it’s under control and the economy is no 1. It’s really that simple Great way to see it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 1,825 Posted Tuesday at 07:06 PM 50 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: you people really are a joke. See a poll you like, HEY LOOK AT THIS POLL! Poll you disagree with? POLLS ARE FAKE! zero integrity. Yeah. Not me. I will never quote a poll or use a poll to support any position. They are useless. On BOF SIDEZ. Polls are dumb and people who buy into them are easily manipulated. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,534 Posted Tuesday at 07:09 PM 21 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: Wait you’re saying 35% don’t say it’s their biggest priority and that means Americans don’t support it??? you’re dumb. It’s not most Americans no 1 issue that would be the economy with immigration second among most rationale people do you ever use logic?? Like ever?? If they polled me in November it was my no 1 issues. Now it’s under control and the economy is no 1. It’s really that simple Well this would make sense except for that second poll that stated that a majority of the public prefers a path to citizenship to Mass deportation. Of course you’ll reject that poll, but that leaves you with accepting the polls you like and rejecting the ones you don’t like. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 1,825 Posted Tuesday at 07:11 PM I 100% guarantee that if Fox news did a poll about mass deportation Vs path to citizenship it would show the majority of americans support mass deportations. You really don't understand how this works do you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 630 Posted Tuesday at 07:12 PM 1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said: Well this would make sense except for that second poll that stated that a majority of the public prefers a path to citizenship to Mass deportation. Of course you’ll reject that poll, but that leaves you with accepting the polls you like and rejecting the ones you don’t like. What about the .org's third a fourth polls? I'm waiting anxiously. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 1,825 Posted Tuesday at 07:16 PM 5 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Well this would make sense except for that second poll that stated that a majority of the public prefers a path to citizenship to Mass deportation. Of course you’ll reject that poll, but that leaves you with accepting the polls you like and rejecting the ones you don’t like. This is from the immigration hub's "about us" page. But yeah, they aren't biased or anything. Jesus man. Tim, you can be really manipulated by the media, we all know this, but seriously? Are you that bad? The Immigration Hub has founded and hosted a number of programs over the years in service of creating an inclusive society where immigrants can thrive, fully contribute to their communities, and be recognized as integral to America’s national identity and heritage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,880 Posted Tuesday at 08:01 PM NEWSWEEK AND "THEIMMIGRATION HUB"? You have any links to Pravda, Vox and MSNBC too? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,880 Posted Tuesday at 08:02 PM 46 minutes ago, supermike80 said: This is from the immigration hub's "about us" page. But yeah, they aren't biased or anything. Jesus man. Tim, you can be really manipulated by the media, we all know this, but seriously? Are you that bad? The Immigration Hub has founded and hosted a number of programs over the years in service of creating an inclusive society where immigrants can thrive, fully contribute to their communities, and be recognized as integral to America’s national identity and heritage. It's simply unbelievable how easily he's led. I'm starting to think he's a bot. someone can't be this clueless. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 630 Posted Tuesday at 08:05 PM 2 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: It's simply unbelievable how easily he's led. I'm starting to think he's a bot. someone can't be this clueless. Gotta agree. Can he honestly be real? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 1,825 Posted Tuesday at 08:09 PM 5 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: It's simply unbelievable how easily he's led. I'm starting to think he's a bot. someone can't be this clueless. It bothers me..a lot. This is a guy who thinks he is intelligent and well informed. But continually shows his ability to be influenced. This is exactly the target politicians try to find. Those that think they are smart, but who are so easily led. It's not that Tim is this way that bothers me. It's that there are so many Americans out there like him. It depresses me that there are so many lemmings out there. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,126 Posted Tuesday at 08:13 PM Most of the polls agree, but you guys don't like polls that disagree with you anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheNewGirl 1,387 Posted Tuesday at 08:17 PM 1 minute ago, Ron_Artest said: Most of the polls agree, but you guys don't like polls that disagree with you anyway. I don't put a whole lot of stock in polls/polling numbers even when they disagree with how I feel personally. I took statistics in college, and meh. I can see how a majority of Americans would disagree with the deportation tactics that are being used; I disagree with some of the tactics myself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 1,825 Posted Tuesday at 08:22 PM 8 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Most of the polls agree, but you guys don't like polls that disagree with you anyway. I dont like ANY polls...Ever Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
avoiding injuries 1,522 Posted Tuesday at 08:25 PM CNN Poll- 56% support https://x.com/chicago1ray/status/1913393283490812233?s=46 NYT Poll- 63% support https://x.com/karolineleavitt/status/1880636095043408091?s=46 I can post so many more, but a lot are from late 2024 and the libs will claim they’re too old and out of date. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,126 Posted Tuesday at 08:33 PM 4 minutes ago, avoiding injuries said: CNN Poll- 56% support https://x.com/chicago1ray/status/1913393283490812233?s=46 NYT Poll- 63% support https://x.com/karolineleavitt/status/1880636095043408091?s=46 I can post so many more, but a lot are from late 2024 and the libs will claim they’re too old and out of date. Those polls are quite old and sentiment has shifted due to Trump tactics. Trump’s overall approval rating for handling immigration now stands at 45%, down from 51% in March. A higher 53% say they have at least some confidence in him to deal with immigration policy, although that’s also down from 60% in the transition period before he took office. https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/30/politics/trump-poll-immigration-deportations A majority of Americans, 53 percent, disapprove of Trump’s handling of immigration, with 46 percent approving, a reversal from February when half of the public voiced approval of his approach. https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/2025/04/25/trump-immigration-approval-ratings-drop-poll/ 45% approval https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trumps-approval-steady-concerns-over-economy-immigration-rise-reutersipsos-poll-2025-04-29/ The survey from The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research finds that 46% of U.S. adults approve of Trump’s handling of immigration https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/many-americans-say-trump-has-gone-too-far-on-immigration-but-remains-his-strongest-issue-ap-norc-poll-finds Polls are consistent, Americans don't approve. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,534 Posted Tuesday at 08:40 PM 1 hour ago, supermike80 said: This is from the immigration hub's "about us" page. But yeah, they aren't biased or anything. Jesus man. Tim, you can be really manipulated by the media, we all know this, but seriously? Are you that bad? The Immigration Hub has founded and hosted a number of programs over the years in service of creating an inclusive society where immigrants can thrive, fully contribute to their communities, and be recognized as integral to America’s national identity and heritage. But they’re not the ones running the poll. They’re reporting the poll, but it’s easy enough to check their work. And of course I read Immigration Hub because I very much agree with their philosophy. That doesn’t mean what they report as fact is not accurate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,534 Posted Tuesday at 08:41 PM 6 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Those polls are quite old and sentiment has shifted due to Trump tactics. Trump’s overall approval rating for handling immigration now stands at 45%, down from 51% in March. A higher 53% say they have at least some confidence in him to deal with immigration policy, although that’s also down from 60% in the transition period before he took office. https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/30/politics/trump-poll-immigration-deportations A majority of Americans, 53 percent, disapprove of Trump’s handling of immigration, with 46 percent approving, a reversal from February when half of the public voiced approval of his approach. https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/2025/04/25/trump-immigration-approval-ratings-drop-poll/ 45% approval https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trumps-approval-steady-concerns-over-economy-immigration-rise-reutersipsos-poll-2025-04-29/ The survey from The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research finds that 46% of U.S. adults approve of Trump’s handling of immigration https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/many-americans-say-trump-has-gone-too-far-on-immigration-but-remains-his-strongest-issue-ap-norc-poll-finds Polls are consistent, Americans don't approve. I don’t understand why they can’t admit that their views on this are unpopular. Happens to me all the time. But some of these guys have trouble acknowledging it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,126 Posted Tuesday at 08:43 PM Just now, The Real timschochet said: I don’t understand why they can’t admit that their views on this are unpopular. Happens to me all the time. But some of these guys have trouble acknowledging it. Trump is an alpha, Trump is always right, Trump makes libs cry, Trump is masculine... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
avoiding injuries 1,522 Posted Tuesday at 08:52 PM Ask people about deportations and almost everyone is in favor. Ask people their thoughts on TRUMP’S handling of deportations and the number goes down. Who could have guessed that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
