MDC 7,185 Posted Sunday at 02:15 PM Hospital tells family brain-dead Georgia woman must carry fetus to birth because of abortion ban ATLANTA (AP) — A pregnant woman in Georgia who was declared brain dead after a medical emergency has been on life support for three months to let the fetus grow enough to be delivered, a move her family says a hospital told them was required under the state’s strict anti-abortion law. With her due date still more than three months away, it could be one of the longest such pregnancies. Her family is upset that Georgia’s law that restricts abortion once cardiac activity is detected doesn’t allow relatives to have a say in whether a pregnant woman is kept on life support. Georgia’s so-called “heartbeat law” is among the restrictive abortion statutes that have been put in place in many conservative states since the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade three years ago. The Georgia State Capitol is seen from Liberty Plaza in downtown Atlanta, April 6, 2020. (Alyssa Pointer/Atlanta Journal-Constitution via AP, File) Read More Adriana Smith, a 30-year-old mother and nurse, was declared brain-dead — meaning she is legally dead — in February, her mother, April Newkirk, told Atlanta TV station WXIA. Newkirk said her daughter had intense headaches more than three months ago and went to Atlanta’s Northside Hospital, where she received medication and was released. The next morning, her boyfriend woke to her gasping for air and called 911. Emory University Hospital determined she had blood clots in her brain and she was declared brain-dead. Newkirk said Smith is now 21 weeks pregnant. Removing breathing tubes and other life-saving devices would likely kill the fetus. Link 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,795 Posted Sunday at 02:18 PM 2 minutes ago, MDC said: let the fetus grow enough to be delivered, a move her family says a hospital told them was required under the state’s strict anti-abortion law. That is wonderful news! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 2,174 Posted Sunday at 02:27 PM What is the uproar about? Any good mother would want to remain on life support if it meant they could bring their baby to term. Notice how they use the term fetus to dehumanize the baby. Its a baby. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,795 Posted Sunday at 02:30 PM 2 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said: What is the uproar about? Any good mother would want to remain on life support if it meant they could bring their baby to term. Notice how they use the term fetus to dehumanize the baby. Its a baby. The Libtards will make this out to be a bad thing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,185 Posted Sunday at 02:49 PM It’s possible the family would’ve decided to keep her alive for the remaining 7 or so months of her pregnancy. But the state made that medical and moral decision for them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,795 Posted Sunday at 02:52 PM 1 minute ago, MDC said: But the state made that medical and moral decision for them. And it was the right decision, was it not? The Mom was brain dead, the baby wasn't. Kudos to Georgia Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,166 Posted Sunday at 03:02 PM Similar to the earlier headline Brain dead woman becomes Congresswoman in GA. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,297 Posted Sunday at 03:05 PM 15 minutes ago, MDC said: It’s possible the family would’ve decided to keep her alive for the remaining 7 or so months of her pregnancy. But the state made that medical and moral decision for them. If the people of Georgia feel the state overstepped it's bounds they have recourse to have the law changed to avoid such actions in the future. Happens with laws all the time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,185 Posted Sunday at 03:11 PM 4 minutes ago, Strike said: If the people of Georgia feel the state overstepped it's bounds they have recourse to have the law changed to avoid such actions in the future. Happens with laws all the time. In the meantime, this brain dead husk of a woman will be kept on life support until she can bring her first trimester pregnancy to term. Whether she or her family wants it or not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,297 Posted Sunday at 03:17 PM Just now, MDC said: In the meantime, this brain dead husk of a woman will be kept on life support until she can bring her first trimester pregnancy to term. Whether she or her family wants it or not. This brain dead husk of a woman has no clue what's going on. The family hasn't even stated whether they would pull the plug if they could. Multiple legal scholars have said the hospital COULD pull the plug; that doing so would not violate the law. And she has a boyfriend. His voice should be heard too. IOW, this is a case that's being used to political purposes. Doesn't register on my "care" meter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,185 Posted Sunday at 03:20 PM 1 minute ago, Strike said: This brain dead husk of a woman has no clue what's going on. The family hasn't even stated whether they would pull the plug if they could. Multiple legal scholars have said the hospital COULD pull the plug; that doing so would not violate the law. And she has a boyfriend. His voice should be heard too. IOW, this is a case that's being used to political purposes. Doesn't register on my "care" meter. You cared enough to reply. I’m merely stating facts here: It doesn’t matter what she or her family would have wanted. The State of Georgia thinks this is best. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 651 Posted Sunday at 03:21 PM 1 minute ago, MDC said: You cared enough to reply. I’m merely stating facts here: It doesn’t matter what she or her family would have wanted. The State of Georgia thinks this is best. So wait. They don't want to put a child to death? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,043 Posted Sunday at 03:23 PM She was 21 weeks pregnant. I think she wanted the kid. But hey Brain dead liberals, make this your latest cause. Have some protests, get the squad and effeminate democrats screeching about it. Please. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,297 Posted Sunday at 03:23 PM 2 minutes ago, MDC said: You cared enough to reply. I’m merely stating facts here: It doesn’t matter what she or her family would have wanted. The State of Georgia thinks this is best. Thread kept getting bumped and eventually my curiosity at what a "human incubator" was got to me. Wish it hadn't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,166 Posted Sunday at 03:25 PM 7 minutes ago, Strike said: This brain dead husk of a woman has no clue what's going on. The family hasn't even stated whether they would pull the plug if they could. Multiple legal scholars have said the hospital COULD pull the plug; that doing so would not violate the law. And she has a boyfriend. His voice should be heard too. IOW, this is a case that's being used to political purposes. Doesn't register on my "care" meter. So she's like most Georgia voters. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,795 Posted Sunday at 03:25 PM 12 minutes ago, MDC said: In the meantime, this brain dead husk of a woman will be kept on life support until she can bring her first trimester pregnancy to term. Whether she or her family wants it or not. Yes, she's BRAIN DEAD, she has no say. The baby isn't brain dead. Why is this hard for any good human being to understand? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,795 Posted Sunday at 03:28 PM Just now, Mike Honcho said: So she's like most Georgia voters. It wasn't funny the first time you said it, did you think it would get funnier a second time? Corny You literally voted for Biden and Kamala, calls Georgian voters brain dead. You can't make this up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 651 Posted Sunday at 03:29 PM 3 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: Yes, she's BRAIN DEAD, she has no say. The baby isn't brain dead. Why is this hard for any good human being to understand? Imagine wanting children to be murdered "legally". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,795 Posted Sunday at 03:30 PM Just now, jbycho said: Imagine wanting children to be murdered "legally". That's exactly what @MDC is advocating. It's unbelievable Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,185 Posted Sunday at 03:31 PM The woman is 21 weeks pregnant and was declared braindead dead in February. My math isn’t so great, but it seems like she’d have been 8-9 weeks pregnant then. Just sayin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,795 Posted Sunday at 03:34 PM 1 minute ago, MDC said: The woman is 21 weeks pregnant and was declared braindead dead in February. My math isn’t so great, but it seems like she’d have been 8-9 weeks pregnant then. Just sayin. What's the difference? So it's OK in your mind to rip the baby out of her and kill it? We're talking about a baby that could otherwise have been born perfectly healthy?? What exactly are you trying to say? Rip it out and kill it? Why? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,297 Posted Sunday at 03:41 PM 9 minutes ago, MDC said: The woman is 21 weeks pregnant and was declared braindead dead in February. My math isn’t so great, but it seems like she’d have been 8-9 weeks pregnant then. Just sayin. But you agree that at that 8-9 week time period she probably wanted the child, right? I mean, she hadn't aborted it and she has another one so she's obviously not opposed to children. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tebok 349 Posted Sunday at 04:00 PM Gurgle gurgle ... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,185 Posted Sunday at 04:00 PM 17 minutes ago, Strike said: But you agree that at that 8-9 week time period she probably wanted the child, right? There’s no way to know whether this woman would have wanted her brain dead husk kept alive for months so that her 8-9 week old fetus could be brought to term in her absence. The State wanted it and that’s what matters in Georgia. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,297 Posted Sunday at 04:02 PM 1 minute ago, MDC said: There’s no way to know whether this woman would have wanted her brain dead husk kept alive for months so that her 8-9 week old fetus could be brought to term in her absence. The State wanted it and that’s what matters in Georgia. That isn't what I asked you. Your answering an entirely different question than asked is telling. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,185 Posted Sunday at 04:08 PM 5 minutes ago, Strike said: That isn't what I asked you. Your answering an entirely different question than asked is telling. I can only speculate as to whether a woman would want her brain dead living corpse kept alive in order to bring a first trimester fetus to viability. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,795 Posted Sunday at 05:31 PM 1 hour ago, MDC said: I can only speculate as to whether a woman would want her brain dead living corpse kept alive in order to bring a first trimester fetus to viability. You're a sicko @MDC A brain dead Woman can't articulate her wishes neither can a baby. Why do you people love killing babies so much? Week 4: The heartbeat is detected Week 6: The eyes and ears begin to develop. Week 8: The baby is called a fetus. Week 12: The limbs are fully formed, and the baby can move more actively. . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,185 Posted Sunday at 05:45 PM 13 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: You're a sicko @MDC A brain dead Woman can't articulate her wishes neither can a baby. Why do you people love killing babies so much? Week 4: The heartbeat is detected Week 6: The eyes and ears begin to develop. Week 8: The baby is called a fetus. Week 12: The limbs are fully formed, and the baby can move more actively. . I’m merely answering Strike’s question. It’s impossible to know whether a breathing corpse would want to be kept alive like a flesh incubator for months so that the 8-9 week old fetus can be born motherless. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,851 Posted Sunday at 07:59 PM 5 hours ago, MDC said: It’s possible the family would’ve decided to keep her alive for the remaining 7 or so months of her pregnancy. But the state made that medical and moral decision for them. We have decided as a society that murder is wrong. It's sad we have to force people to not murder babies, yet here we are Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,851 Posted Sunday at 08:02 PM 2 hours ago, Maximum Overkill said: You're a sicko @MDC A brain dead Woman can't articulate her wishes neither can a baby. Why do you people love killing babies so much? Week 4: The heartbeat is detected Week 6: The eyes and ears begin to develop. Week 8: The baby is called a fetus. Week 12: The limbs are fully formed, and the baby can move more actively. . It's a baby at conception it can't be anything other than a human baby. It's not a frog or a toad, bear, or monkey. It is a human baby and that baby has a right to life just like every other person. Full stop. There is no but what if.... The baby has a right to life. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,185 Posted Sunday at 08:10 PM 3 minutes ago, Cdub100 said: We have decided as a society that murder is wrong. It's sad we have to force people to not murder babies, yet here we are The State of Georgia has decided to force this woman to keep breathing, with the help of a ventilator. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,633 Posted Sunday at 08:14 PM 4 hours ago, Tebok said: Gurgle gurgle ... It’s like 2005 and Terri all over… Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lickin_starfish 1,899 Posted Sunday at 08:18 PM It is eating MDC up that this baby can't be ripped apart, piece-by-piece, and have it's body parts sold off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,851 Posted Sunday at 08:24 PM 12 minutes ago, MDC said: The State of Georgia has decided to force this woman to keep breathing, with the help of a ventilator. It's wonderful we have the technology to save her babies life. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,901 Posted Sunday at 08:25 PM I'm confused. Why are they keeping her alive? Do they think the baby will be viable? Or is the baby essentially dead too? I find it hard to believe that this is nothing more than a political stunt if both the baby and the mother are technically dead. The thought process is that if the baby can still come to term and be normal, then why would they not keep the mother alive? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,185 Posted Sunday at 08:27 PM 2 minutes ago, Cdub100 said: It's wonderful we have the technology to save her babies life. Would you feel different if I told you the mom was unmarried and black? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,901 Posted Sunday at 08:28 PM Just now, MDC said: Would you feel different if I told you the mom was unmarried and black? That was the whole purpose of planned Parenthood. That is literally why it was created. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,185 Posted Sunday at 08:29 PM Just now, EternalShinyAndChrome said: That was the whole purpose of planned Parenthood. That is literally why it was created. What was the purpose? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,901 Posted Sunday at 08:34 PM 4 minutes ago, MDC said: What was the purpose? To get rid of minority children. I'm sure you're familiar with that? I mean, Margaret Sanger was no saint. That is well known. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites