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Is Aaron Rodgers a Hall-of-Famer?

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Seems like a stupid question because the conventional wisdom is that he is a first ballot lock, but aside from the one Super Bowl, he has a long history of post-season flops.  He never had a 5k passing season (and never even got particularly close), which seems odd for an era where most of the elite QBs cracked 5k at least once (and guys like Dak, Romo, Cousins, Eli and Matt Ryan were able to get to 4900+).  He seems unlikely to catch Favre in career passing yardage and is still behind Rivers and Roethlisberger and seems likely to be caught by Stafford  (assuming Stafford plays at least one season after a Rodgers retirement).

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He most likely will be, but he hasn’t been a “leader” on his teams.  He’s had a douche bag attitude.

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What’s he got four MVP’s and a superbowl ring? Yeah that’s a lock for any QB…

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SuperBowl win and 4 MVP's makes him a lock. Though might not get a 1st ballot entry because of he's a pr*ck.

Although if I were charge of HOF rules - for all sports - they should only get one shot.  They're either a HOF player or they're not.  Getting in on the 14th ballot (it's happened) is ridiculous.  Their stats don't get any better with age.

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1 hour ago, JagFan said:

He most likely will be, but he hasn’t been a “leader” on his teams.  He’s had a douche bag attitude.

I think thats something that has emerged in the last couple of years.

He was fine up to that point.   I do think he gets in the HOF.

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With the 4 MVP awards, I guess it would be a shock if he didn't get in, but the question is, should he?  Aside from his one SB win, his legacy is not getting it done in the post-season (highlighted by the fact that he never made it back to another SB despite being on some really good teams).  I was a bit surprised that in this era of passing, his best season for passing yards was only ~4600 that ranks as 57th.  Overall, his stats are comparable to Roethlisberger (who lacks the MVP awards, but has 2 SB rings and appeared in another - the one Pit lost to GB), though Rodgers does have a distinct advantage with ~100 more TDs and ~100 less iINTs.  Actually, the TD-to-INT ratio is the one stat where he blows everyone away and maybe that is the stat that is deserving of the HOF. 

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He's been to less Superbowls than Jalen Hurts and has as many Superbowl wins as Trent Dilfer. 

Statistically He's a hall of famer but he's really done nothing to win. How many years has he played?? 

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5 hours ago, listen2me 23 said:

So Brees is definitely not in if we are asking this.  

What a silly thread.  

These threads almost always go in a dumb direction.  but it gives us something to talk about in the offseason so I'll allow it ;) 

 

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He will be a 1st ballot HOFer...

That's not really even up for debate

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22 hours ago, jrokh said:

What’s he got four MVP’s and a superbowl ring? Yeah that’s a lock for any QB…

Right, it's the NFL, not the NBA

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Media hates him because of his politics.  This time they won't make the same mistake they did with his last MVP and advertise their bias incurring backlash.  They'll be smart enough to make up some BS before sinking him 

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17 hours ago, listen2me 23 said:

So Brees is definitely not in if we are asking this.  

What a silly thread.  

Brees doesn't have the MVP awards, but of the 15 5k passing seasons that have been recorded, Brees has 5 of them (kind of makes one wonder how he doesn't have at least 1 MVP award) and second only to Brady in career yardage.  Based on stats, IMO Brees has a much stronger HOF case than Rodgers.

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On 5/19/2025 at 2:55 PM, Showboat said:

Seems like a stupid question because the conventional wisdom is that he is a first ballot lock, but aside from the one Super Bowl, he has a long history of post-season flops.  He never had a 5k passing season (and never even got particularly close), which seems odd for an era where most of the elite QBs cracked 5k at least once (and guys like Dak, Romo, Cousins, Eli and Matt Ryan were able to get to 4900+).  He seems unlikely to catch Favre in career passing yardage and is still behind Rivers and Roethlisberger and seems likely to be caught by Stafford  (assuming Stafford plays at least one season after a Rodgers retirement).

I've said for a while now that Stafford is as good as Rodgers, he was just stuck on the Lions all those years

He should be HOF too

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6 hours ago, Showboat said:

Brees doesn't have the MVP awards, but of the 15 5k passing seasons that have been recorded, Brees has 5 of them (kind of makes one wonder how he doesn't have at least 1 MVP award) and second only to Brady in career yardage.  Based on stats, IMO Brees has a much stronger HOF case than Rodgers.

Why do you think yards are so important?  Jameis Winston has a 5k season.  

You do realize if you throw thr ball 45 times a game you will rack up yards right?  

Rodgers' highest pass attempts in a season would rank 10th in Brees' career.  10th!

You know who has the 2 highest single season QB ratings ever recorded?  Not Brees.  

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8 hours ago, Showboat said:

Brees doesn't have the MVP awards, but of the 15 5k passing seasons that have been recorded, Brees has 5 of them (kind of makes one wonder how he doesn't have at least 1 MVP award) and second only to Brady in career yardage.  Based on stats, IMO Brees has a much stronger HOF case than Rodgers.

Look at his passing attempts though, he was consistently leading the league. Since 2007 he lead the league 6 times in attem. I take nothing from yardage. 

 

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6 hours ago, listen2me 23 said:

Why do you think yards are so important?  Jameis Winston has a 5k season.  

You do realize if you throw thr ball 45 times a game you will rack up yards right?  

Rodgers' highest pass attempts in a season would rank 10th in Brees' career.  10th!

You know who has the 2 highest single season QB ratings ever recorded?  Not Brees.  

All stats have their anomalies: Foles and Tannehill are both in the top 6 for season passer rating but Brees is not off the map at 9 and 10 (and #7 for career - ahead of Brady at 12, but behind the likes of Russ and D.Watson).  Passer rating is a bit of a convoluted formula - I suspect that Rodgers' TD-to-INT ratio (the one stat where he blows the competition away) contributes to his high passer rating.

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