L.A. ICE raids/protests - ICE Agents Denied Access at Dodger Stadium

[TBayXXXVII 2,519]

LOL, there actually people who claim to be "educated", and they don't know (common sense), than an outsider has no right to intervene with a law enforcement official from doing their job.

[Gladiators 1,981]

1 hour ago, Engorgeous George said:

That is actually textbook obstruction, but you do you.  The New York City Comptroller had no standing in the matter whatsoever.

Tim - I think you missed this one.

[TimHauck 2,719]

5 minutes ago, Strike said:

ICE doesn't have to show the warrant to every Tom, , and Harry that asks.  FFS.

Did they show it at all in this case?

[The Real timschochet 6,588]

Just now, TBayXXXVII said:

LOL, there actually people who claim to be "educated", and they don't know (common sense), than an outsider has no right to intervene with a law enforcement official from doing their job.

Javohl, mein herr! Sieg heil! 
 

When the authorities behave in an immoral fashion, the public has a duty and moral right to resist. Asking to see a warrant is perfectly justified. 

[The Real timschochet 6,588]

6 minutes ago, Strike said:

And this is why it's worthless to engage with you.

Serious question: is there EVER, in your mind, a situation in which it’s justifiable to resist authority? 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,236]

When Biden was asked about scotus ruling against him on student loans he replied “they didn’t stop me”. 

[Maximum Overkill 1,898]

1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

Serious question: is there EVER, in your mind, a situation in which it’s justifiable to resist authority? 

You're calling for riots? Wow! 

[TBayXXXVII 2,519]

3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Javohl, mein herr! Sieg heil! 
 

When the authorities behave in an immoral fashion, the public has a duty and moral right to resist. Asking to see a warrant is perfectly justified. 

That's how people get shot.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,236]

5 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Serious question: is there EVER, in your mind, a situation in which it’s justifiable to resist authority? 

If you think an election was stolen and have evidence of it I guess. 

[The Real timschochet 6,588]

The judge asked if there is ANY instance in which a court can challenge the President’s ability to call out the military or National Guard. 
 

Trump’s attorney: No. Never. It’s the President’s sole decision not subject to review. 

[TBayXXXVII 2,519]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

If you think an election was stolen and have evidence of it I guess. 

I think it's funny that when people on January 6th did it, he called them domestic terrorists, but when his side is doing it, it's justified. 

[The Real timschochet 6,588]

3 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

That's how people get shot.

Only in a police state. 

[The Real timschochet 6,588]

Just now, TBayXXXVII said:

I think it's funny that when people on January 6th did it, he called them domestic terrorists, but when his side is doing it, it's justified. 

Link to me justifying violence? 

[TBayXXXVII 2,519]

1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

Link to me justifying violence? 

I'm sorry, I thought you just said....

"When the authorities behave in an immoral fashion, the public has a duty and moral  right to resist ."

The Jan 6ers resisted. 

Maybe that was someone else who made that post.  My bad, if it wasn't you.

[Ron_Artest 1,312]

11 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

When Biden was asked about scotus ruling against him on student loans he replied “they didn’t stop me”. 

How many times are you gonna bring this up?  I already explained to you that Biden never defied SCOTUS on student loans.  You're either stupid or lying.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,236]

5 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

How many times are you gonna bring this up?  I already explained to you that Biden never defied SCOTUS on student loans.  You're either stupid or lying.

Yeah. You think playing a little game isn’t defying the intent of the court. Sorry Tiny brain, no gotcha for you. Some of us don’t fall for BS tossed at us. You do. Also he deified the court on the eviction moratorium.  Now shut it. 

[Ron_Artest 1,312]

12 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Yeah. You think playing a little game isn’t defying the intent of the court. Sorry Tiny brain, no gotcha for you. Some of us don’t fall for BS tossed at us. You do. Also he deified the court on the eviction moratorium.  Now shut it. 

It's not playing a little game dummy, it's following the law.  You're wrong on this every time you bring it up. 

[The Real timschochet 6,588]

24 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

I'm sorry, I thought you just said....

"When the authorities behave in an immoral fashion, the public has a duty and moral  right to resist ."

The Jan 6ers resisted. 

Maybe that was someone else who made that post.  My bad, if it wasn't you.

Peaceful resistance. 
 

I’ve condemned violent resistance in so many threads, so often, that I didn’t think it was necessary to make that distinction. The Jan 6 folks are not wrong for resisting (though of course I think their cause was wrong) they are wrong for their violence. 

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40 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Serious question: is there EVER, in your mind, a situation in which it’s justifiable to resist authority? 

If they try to make you take a vaccine that hasn't even gone through proper clinical trials and if you don't you lose everything you worked for, that is probably something you should resist authority on. 

[The Real timschochet 6,588]

Putting aside everything else: the use of masks by ICE officials is not a good look for Trump. It’s terrible for the politics. 

[TheNewGirl 1,451]

4 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Putting aside everything else: the use of masks by ICE officials is not a good look for Trump. It’s terrible for the politics. 

You're also terrible for politics but here we are. 

[TBayXXXVII 2,519]

23 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Peaceful resistance. 
 

I’ve condemned violent resistance in so many threads, so often, that I didn’t think it was necessary to make that distinction. The Jan 6 folks are not wrong for resisting (though of course I think their cause was wrong) they are wrong for their violence. 

But it was their "duty and moral  right to resist".  

[The Real timschochet 6,588]

3 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

But it was their "duty and moral  right to resist".  

Peacefully. 

[The Real timschochet 6,588]

9 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

You're also terrible for politics but here we are. 

Maybe so but I’m not on television. 

[Engorgeous George 2,271]

1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

Javohl, mein herr! Sieg heil! 
 

When the authorities behave in an immoral fashion, the public has a duty and moral right to resist. Asking to see a warrant is perfectly justified. 

Asking is justified and non-objectionable.  DEMADING while physically embracing the wanted person so as to prohibit them from being secured into custody is not.  Even his attorney, if he had one, would not have been allowed to do what this Comptroller did.  This was an officious intermeddler obstructing justice, nothing more, other than he could also be called a media strumpet seeking a viral moment to feed the ignorant who do not understand the law so he can have a campaign issue, a manufactured one. 

[Gladiators 1,981]

5 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said:

Asking is justified and non-objectionable.  DEMADING while physically embracing the wanted person so as to prohibit them from being secured into custody is not.  Even his attorney, if he had one, would not have been allowed to do what this Comptroller did.  This was an officious intermeddler obstructing justice, nothing more, other than he could also be called a media strumpet seeking a viral moment to feed the ignorant who do not understand the law so he can have a campaign issue, a manufactured one. 

This is what I think is going on...simply a publicity stunt.

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32 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Peacefully. 

"resisting" is not "peaceful". 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,236]

We have members of a major political party throwing tantrums on the reg for the cameras. Liberal idiots eat it up. 

[TBayXXXVII 2,519]

37 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Peacefully. 

Well, they were.... until they intervened with law enforcement.  Someone got shot.  Weird, huh?

[Engorgeous George 2,271]

20 minutes ago, Gladiators said:

This is what I think is going on...simply a publicity stunt.

This Senator Padilla all over again or the congressperson from jersey.  This is unknowns seeking to make a name for themselves pretending to stand up for something so they can get attention as martyrs for the cause. Its cheap theatre.  

[TBayXXXVII 2,519]

55 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Putting aside everything else: the use of masks by ICE officials is not a good look for Trump. It’s terrible for the politics. 

Wait, wasn't government agencies telling people to put masks on, when they knew they weren't useful?  That act was applauded by people like you.  Now, when it's justified (so people like you don't threaten them for doing their jobs), it's a bad thing?

[TBayXXXVII 2,519]

Just now, Engorgeous George said:

This Senator Padilla all over again or the congressperson from jersey.  This is unknowns seeking to make a name for themselves pretending to stand up for something so they can get attention as martyrs for the cause. Its cheap theatre.  

Most likely, yes.

[The Real timschochet 6,588]

31 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said:

Asking is justified and non-objectionable.  DEMADING while physically embracing the wanted person so as to prohibit them from being secured into custody is not.  Even his attorney, if he had one, would not have been allowed to do what this Comptroller did.  This was an officious intermeddler obstructing justice, nothing more, other than he could also be called a media strumpet seeking a viral moment to feed the ignorant who do not understand the law so he can have a campaign issue, a manufactured one. 

Which is why I wrote that I was troubled by it. 

[Strike 5,387]

1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

Serious question: is there EVER, in your mind, a situation in which it’s justifiable to resist authority? 

If you knew me in real life you wouldn't be asking this question.

[Engorgeous George 2,271]

2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Which is why I wrote that I was troubled by it. 

Not in the post I responded to you did not. There you were all Sieg Heil.  

[The Real timschochet 6,588]

2 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said:

This Senator Padilla all over again or the congressperson from jersey.  This is unknowns seeking to make a name for themselves pretending to stand up for something so they can get attention as martyrs for the cause. Its cheap theatre.  

Senator Padilla did not forcibly intervene. Big distinction. 
 

But it seems to me all of you guys are missing the main wrong doing here which isn’t the politicians or any of the protestors, as stupid or wrongheaded as some of them may act. It’s the ICE people. They’re acting like thugs. They’re rounding up people, some of them innocent. They’re not giving due process. They’re taking away folks who are not violent criminals. Even if many of you guys think that all of this is OK, the public does not and there’s going to be a reaction. It’s wrong. 

[The Real timschochet 6,588]

1 minute ago, Engorgeous George said:

Not in the post I responded to you did not. There you were all Sieg Heil.  

Because of who I was responding to. But you’re welcome to go back and read my first post on this subject. 

[Strike 5,387]

1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

Senator Padilla did not forcibly intervene. Big distinction. 
 

But it seems to me all of you guys are missing the main wrong doing here which isn’t the politicians or any of the protestors, as stupid or wrongheaded as some of them may act. It’s the ICE people. They’re acting like thugs. They’re rounding up people, some of them innocent. They’re not giving due process. They’re taking away folks who are not violent criminals. Even if many of you guys think that all of this is OK, the public does not and there’s going to be a reaction. It’s wrong. 

Yeah man.  Soon they're going to make the illegals dig their own mass graves and shoot them on the spot!!!!!!

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Just now, The Real timschochet said:

 Peacefully. 

So if Tim thinks a cop is wrong pulling him over and accusing him of something, he says he will resist arrest somehow peacefully. How does that work?

[seafoam1 2,913]

3 minutes ago, Strike said:

Yeah man.  Soon they're going to make the illegals dig their own mass graves and shoot them on the spot!!!!!!

And parents sending their kids to their rooms because they are being snot nosed brats, is also being a Nazi somehow. 

Jeez. Just come here legally and you are fine. Why can liberals just not understand that simple point? It's as basic as it gets.