L.A. ICE raids/protests thread - SCOTUS allows ICE to resume L.A. deportation raids

[Maximum Overkill 2,209]

5 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Racist lies.

Your source for this?

Some species are just more violent. That's how it works. It's not racist if it's true. Say it. 

 

A Different Story for Black Americans

NCVS estimates suggest that the overall reductions in crime were not shared across races. For White Americans, nonlethal violent victimization rates dropped by 14% while aggravated assault fell by 21%. Hispanic Americans experienced an even greater decrease in the frequency of nonlethal violence (-23%), with large drops in aggravated assaults (-20%) and in rape/sexual assault (-58%). 

Despite these one-year decreases, the overall nonlethal violent victimization rate for White Americans was 28% higher, largely due to an 80% spike. This suggests that their violent victimization rates have not returned to pre-pandemic levels.

For Hispanic Americans, the rate of nonlethal violent victimization not only declined but also fell below most offenses. The total nonlethal violent victimization rate decreased 17% for this group. Aggravated assault rates dropped by 39% and rape/sexual assault fell by 21%.. However, the robbery rate for Hispanic Americans rose 37% during this span.

The picture is considerably different for Black Americans, who reported increased violent victimization. Nonlethal violent victimization rates for Black Americans jumped 37% during this period, reaching 12.3 incidents per 1,000 people in 2023, the highest of any racial group. Aggravated assault rates increased by 16%, the survey data show, while robbery rates climbed by 79%. Additionally, while rape/sexual assault rates decreased 25%  for Black Americans rose 47%. 

[Ron_Artest 1,794]

2 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Some species are just more violent. That's how it works. It's not racist if it's true. Say it. 

We're all the same species, Mengele.

[Maximum Overkill 2,209]

Just now, Ron_Artest said:

We're all the same species, Mengele.

Really, because one specie doesn't behave like the others. 

 

[Maximum Overkill 2,209]

2 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

We're all the same species, Mengele.

Why EXACTLY do you believe blacks are more violent. 

The facts don't lie, so why is that? 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,404]

22 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Racist lies.

Your source for this?

So you think black women and older black men are committing all those violent crimes? 

[Ron_Artest 1,794]

11 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Really, because one specie doesn't behave like the others. 

 

What specie is that?

[Ron_Artest 1,794]

12 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Why EXACTLY do you believe blacks are more violent. 

The facts don't lie, so why is that? 

It's not skin color, Mr duke.

[Ron_Artest 1,794]

6 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

So you think black women and older black men are committing all those violent crimes? 

I'm saying your data is wrong and asked you for a source to back it up.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,649]

If blacks aren’t committing all these crimes then why are there so many black victims of crimes? Gutterboy is naive. He stays at home all day. 

[Ron_Artest 1,794]

6 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

If blacks aren’t committing all these crimes then why are there so many black victims of crimes? Gutterboy is naive. He stays at home all day. 

Where did I say that blacks aren't commiting crimes?

All I said was raiders lied in his post about that 52% number and I asked for a source.

[jonnyutah 389]

19 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

So you think black women and older black men are committing all those violent crimes? 

Black women are slightly overrepresentative in murderer rates. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,282]

2 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

We need to collectively change this comment. It’s not 13%
 

its 3%
52% of violent crimes are committed by black men age 13-29

Holy shiat!  I didn't realize it was even that more outrageous.   WTF?

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,282]

On 9/2/2025 at 10:03 AM, squistion said:

 

Once again, another rush to X to find some comments to post on the GC did not age well. 

Love how the leftists on this forum rush to celebrate when an activist judge rules in their favor, only to watch them completely ignore the overturned ruling a few weeks later.

[HellToupee 1,962]

3 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

52% of violent crimes are committed by black men age 13-29

I’d like to see a study that drills down on this. What percentage don’t have a father in their lives , education, economic , location etc. What % are repeat offenders , are repeats responsible for committing the majority etc. 

there is definitely a problem 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,404]

3 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

I'm saying your data is wrong and asked you for a source to back it up.

Everyone knows the 13/52 rates. But in reality among all races crimes are committed by males under age 29. And that exists at like a 90% rate. 

[squistion 2,350]

3 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

Racist lies.

Your source for this?

We seen this multple times in this forum. Their source is government stats (DOJ? FBI?) from some year where the numbers they cite about Black crime was misread or misinterpreted and doesn't really say that Blacks or Black men commit the percentage of violent crimes that is being claimed here.

 

[Meglamaniac 670]

2 minutes ago, squistion said:

We seen this multple times in this forum. Their source is government stats (DOJ? FBI?) from some year where the numbers they cite about Black crime was misread or misinterpreted and doesn't really say that Blacks or Black men commit the percentage of violent crimes that is claimed. 

 

Link?

[squistion 2,350]

1 minute ago, Meglamaniac said:

Link?

It is in the thread or threads where it was discussed. No point in looking for it because the usual suspects just repeat the same thing at a later date (like in this thread) after it has been pointed out the numbers don't actually say what they claim they do.

[jonnyutah 389]

2 minutes ago, squistion said:

It is in the thread or threads where it was discussed. No point in looking for it because the usual suspects just repeat the same thing at a later date (like in this thread) after it has been pointed out the numbers don't actually say what they claim they do.

The numbers say exactly what people think they do. I mean I know you are a massive liar and fraud, but dont use the tim routine of i read it somewhere. Next you will say things like "i heard it on the radio".

 

[Meglamaniac 670]

9 minutes ago, squistion said:

It is in the thread or threads where it was discussed. No point in looking for it because the usual suspects just repeat the same thing at a later date (like in this thread) after it has been pointed out the numbers don't actually say what they claim they do.

So no link to prove your statement

 

from some year where the numbers they cite about Black crime was misread or misinterpreted and doesn't really say that Blacks or Black men commit the percentage of violent crimes that is claimed. 

 

 

[squistion 2,350]

Reminder:

This is a thread about ICE raids in L.A. - if you want to talk about Black crime in this country, start a thread about that or bump a prexisting one.  

[Meglamaniac 670]

Just now, squistion said:

Reminder:

This is a thread about ICE raids in L.A. - if you want to talk about Black crime in this country, start a thread about that or bump a prexisting one.  

LOL

(Squissy) I'm gonna talk about black crime in the thread until someone asks for proof of the claims I make about black crime

[jonnyutah 389]

19 minutes ago, squistion said:

We seen this multple times in this forum. Their source is government stats (DOJ? FBI?) from some year where the numbers they cite about Black crime was misread or misinterpreted and doesn't really say that Blacks or Black men commit the percentage of violent crimes that is being claimed here.

 

Please remember that the OP is talking about black crime stats here. And if the OP does it, then it is totally fair game. Thanks for expanding the topic!

[jonnyutah 389]

Please update title to "black crime and ice raids" to give people a better idea of what is in this thread. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,649]

36 minutes ago, squistion said:

It is in the thread or threads where it was discussed. No point in looking for it because the usual suspects just repeat the same thing at a later date (like in this thread) after it has been pointed out the numbers don't actually say what they claim they do.

Well missy, why don’t you tell us what the numbers are? Yeah right.  

[squistion 2,350]

 

[Meglamaniac 670]

13 minutes ago, squistion said:

 

racially profile people.

more kidnappings of Angelenos by the federal government.

Even you should be ashamed to post this

 

[jonnyutah 389]

13 minutes ago, squistion said:

 

How can you fear more kidnappings that have never happened?

[squistion 2,350]

1 minute ago, Meglamaniac said:

racially profile people.

more kidnappings of Angelenos by the federal government.

Even you should be ashamed to post this

They are racially profiling. The SCOTUS ruling explicitly permits ICE to use "looking Latino" & "working a low-wage job" as reasons for detention (if that isn't profiling, I don't know what is).

[The Real timschochet 7,070]

1 minute ago, squistion said:

They are racially profiling. The SCOTUS ruling explicitly permits ICE to use "looking Latino" & "working a low-wage job" as reasons for detention (if that isn't profiling, I don't know what is).

The people you’re arguing with are saying it’s not happening and it’s a good thing both at the same time. 

[Meglamaniac 670]

6 minutes ago, squistion said:

They are racially profiling. The SCOTUS ruling explicitly permits ICE to use "looking Latino" & "working a low-wage job" as reasons for detention (if that isn't profiling, I don't know what is).

Link to that verbage?

I see you neglected to comment on the second part of my quote

[HellToupee 1,962]

9 minutes ago, squistion said:

. The SCOTUS ruling explicitly permits ICE to use "looking Latino" & "working a low-wage job" as reasons for detention (if that isn't profiling, I don't know what is).

Sounds like a smart plan. Go where the illegals are working . They’re here illegally so that’s where ICE is focusing

 

[squistion 2,350]

3 minutes ago, Meglamaniac said:

Link to that verbage?

I see you neglected to comment on the second part of my quote

 

[seafoam1 3,237]

10 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

The people you’re arguing with are saying it’s not happening and it’s a good thing both at the same time. 

Profiling is necessary to catch many bad people. 

Round them up. Get em out. 

[Meglamaniac 670]

7 minutes ago, squistion said:

 

Nowhere does that say anything close to

 "looking Latino" & "working a low-wage job" as reasons for detention."

Nowhere

[squistion 2,350]

7 minutes ago, Meglamaniac said:

Nowhere does that say anything close to

 "looking Latino" & "working a low-wage job" as reasons for detention."

Nowhere

From ACLU:

https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/aclu-comment-on-supreme-court-ruling-allowing-indiscriminate-ice-stops-in-los-angeles

The 6-3 decision, which provided no reasoning, reverses a ruling from two lower courts in Perdomo v. Noem that bars immigration agents from stopping individuals without reasonable suspicion and from relying solely on four factors — alone or in combination — including apparent race or ethnicity; speaking Spanish or English with an accent; presence in a particular location like a bus stop, car wash, or agricultural site; or the type of work a person does.

The following is reaction from Cecillia Wang, national legal director of the American Civil Liberties Union:

“Today's Supreme Court order puts people at grave risk, allowing federal agents in Southern California to target individuals because of their race, how they speak, the jobs they work, or just being at a bus stop or the car wash when ICE agents decide to raid a place. For anyone perceived as Latino by an ICE agent, this means living in a fearful ‘papers please’ regime, with risks of violent ICE arrests and detention.

 

[Meglamaniac 670]

14 minutes ago, squistion said:

From ACLU:

https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/aclu-comment-on-supreme-court-ruling-allowing-indiscriminate-ice-stops-in-los-angeles

The 6-3 decision, which provided no reasoning, reverses a ruling from two lower courts in Perdomo v. Noem that bars immigration agents from stopping individuals without reasonable suspicion and from relying solely on four factors — alone or in combination — including apparent race or ethnicity; speaking Spanish or English with an accent; presence in a particular location like a bus stop, car wash, or agricultural site; or the type of work a person does.

The following is reaction from Cecillia Wang, national legal director of the American Civil Liberties Union:

“Today's Supreme Court order puts people at grave risk, allowing federal agents in Southern California to target individuals because of their race, how they speak, the jobs they work, or just being at a bus stop or the car wash when ICE agents decide to raid a place. For anyone perceived as Latino by an ICE agent, this means living in a fearful ‘papers please’ regime, with risks of violent ICE arrests and detention.

 

Again nowhere does that say

 "looking Latino" & "working a low-wage job" as reasons for detention."

 

, I'm starting to understand why everyone calls you a liar

 

[Strike 5,785]

15 minutes ago, squistion said:

From ACLU:

https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/aclu-comment-on-supreme-court-ruling-allowing-indiscriminate-ice-stops-in-los-angeles

The 6-3 decision, which provided no reasoning, reverses a ruling from two lower courts in Perdomo v. Noem that bars immigration agents from stopping individuals without reasonable suspicion and from relying solely on four factors — alone or in combination — including apparent race or ethnicity; speaking Spanish or English with an accent; presence in a particular location like a bus stop, car wash, or agricultural site; or the type of work a person does.

The following is reaction from Cecillia Wang, national legal director of the American Civil Liberties Union:

“Today's Supreme Court order puts people at grave risk, allowing federal agents in Southern California to target individuals because of their race, how they speak, the jobs they work, or just being at a bus stop or the car wash when ICE agents decide to raid a place. For anyone perceived as Latino by an ICE agent, this means living in a fearful ‘papers please’ regime, with risks of violent ICE arrests and detention.

 

Cecilia WANG.  Heh Heh Heh.  Squissy said Wang Beavis!

[Strike 5,785]

2 hours ago, squistion said:

Reminder:

This is a thread about ICE raids in L.A. - if you want to talk about Black crime in this country, start a thread about that or bump a prexisting one.  

Isn't a black person just a latino with a tan?  So totally relevant to this thread.

[squistion 2,350]

Just now, Meglamaniac said:

Again nowhere does that say, I'm starting to understand why everyone calls you a liar

 "looking Latino" & "working a low-wage job" as reasons for detention."

 

 Where do you think the ACLU is coming up with this?

"target individuals because of their race" = "looking Latino"