SCOTUS rules on state ban on gender transition 'treatments' for minors in landmark case

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2 hours ago, TimHauck said:

She said trans is a “gimmick,” and literally yesterday in response to this ruling said “gender ideology is a house of cards that is bound to crumble quickly.”  Both comments having nothing to do with sports.

She is a transphobe, but you are welcome to continue being oblivious to that fact.

But you’re convinced Trump isn’t a racist despite his numerous racist comments and associations with white nationalists like Stephen Miller? 

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2 hours ago, TimHauck said:

She said trans is a “gimmick,” and literally yesterday in response to this ruling said “gender ideology is a house of cards that is bound to crumble quickly.”  Both comments having nothing to do with sports.

She is a transphobe, but you are welcome to continue being oblivious to that fact.

LOL, this guy!  

 

Total lack of awareness.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,433]

Would she be a “transphobe” if trans didnt invade women’s spaces? 

[jonnyutah 288]

10 hours ago, TBayXXXVII said:

That's right.  Her perspective is that men who claim they are women, do not have the right to play in women’s sports.  She uses these examples to show that these men (boys), aren't women (girls).  At NO POINT, AT ALL, IN ANY POST, does she say that they shouldn't be allowed to do as they want on their own time, in their own lives, to act this way.  Only, that they just shouldn't be afforded the rights/privileges that are exclusive to women.

You choose to pretend that she's making an argument that she's not.  That's fine... it makes you wrong, but you're allowed to be wrong.  When you are though, don't keep going to the well and acting like a baby, hoping someone caves in.

Who cares if she did say that? Trans people are crazy and it is time we stop pretending they arent. 

 

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19 hours ago, MDC said:

But you’re convinced Trump isn’t a racist despite his numerous racist comments and associations with white nationalists like Stephen Miller? 

What the hell does that have to do with Men beating up on Girl's and invading their personal spaces?

Note wothy that some pervs in here won't condemn it, you might want to look in the mirror.  

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20 hours ago, MDC said:

But you’re convinced Trump isn’t a racist despite his numerous racist comments and associations with white nationalists like Stephen Miller? 

YOU were convinced Biden was not a racist when they have him on camera as a younger man saying he did not want his kids growing up in a racial jungle. You pick and choose what you are offended by based on who is on your side. Just another liberal hypocrite. 

[TimHauck 2,876]

On 6/19/2025 at 5:23 PM, jerryskids said:

If it hasn't been posted yet:  Barrett, Thomas, and Alito issued concurring opinions which further argued that transgenders are not a "suspect class" or "quasi-suspect class", including adults:

https://www.newsweek.com/amy-coney-barrett-unexpected-move-supreme-court-2087851

Sorry to distract from your conversation @jerryskids.

Here’s some analysis suggesting the “trans isn’t a protected class” stuff may not be as broad as some think:

https://www.nysun.com/article/supreme-courts-decision-to-uphold-state-ban-on-medical-gender-transitions-for-minors-is-a-devastating-loss-for-transgender-people-aclu-says?member_gift=CUZ5qwd3crq4pmz-xrd

Way too many words in this article but I think these were the most relevant:

The court’s decision, however monumental, will not necessarily have sweeping implications for transgender-related litigation more broadly, according to a law professor at Duke University, Doriane Lambelet Coleman, the author of “On Sex And Gender: a Commonsense Approach.” She said that the court has left as an open question whether transgender people should be recognized as a protected class, for whom a higher level of legal scrutiny under the 14th Amendment is warranted.

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Addressing the question of Bostock’s application outside of employment contexts, the majority found that the law “does not alter the court’s analysis.” To assess for discrimination barred by the statute, that 2020 decision applied a test in which changing the person’s sex would change the outcome of the dispute. But in the case of the Tennessee ban, the court found that this test did not, in fact, change the outcome; children would still be banned from receiving drugs for the purpose of transitioning their gender if they were the opposite sex.

However, the court issued a notably restrained ruling in this context, declining to address whether Bostock’s reasoning “reaches behind the Title VII context.” This should limit the reach of this decision.

“Lawyers working to secure trans rights can continue to use Bostock based reasoning where the language of the law allows it,” Ms. Coleman said.
 

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On 6/20/2025 at 8:04 PM, jonnyutah said:

Who cares if she did say that? Trans people are crazy and it is time we stop pretending they arent. 

Exactly.  This isn't even debatable.  It never was.

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21 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Exactly.  This isn't even debatable.  It never was.

This isn’t even debatable! 

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41 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

This isn’t even debatable! 

You're coming around! 

[squistion 2,201]

45 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

This isn’t even debatable! 

It is imposible to have a rational discussion with anyone whose starting point is that LGBTQ people are mentally ill. 

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8 minutes ago, squistion said:

It is imposible to have a rational discussion with anyone whose starting point is that LGBTQ people are mentally ill. 

Mentally Ill and perverted  

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32 minutes ago, squistion said:

It is imposible to have a rational discussion with anyone whose starting point is that LGBTQ people are mentally ill. 

Cutting off your genitals and trying to convince someone you are a woman when you're a man or vice versa involves some mental illness.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,106]

It's impossible to have a rational discussion with anyone whose starting position is:

• Men can be women simply because they say so
• Supports surgery and chemicals for children to transition them to the Rainbow Mob
• Says there are more than 2 genders
• Supports trannies indoctrinating children in schools

I could list more, but that's a pretty big list.  Someone who believes that isn't serious about a conversation and only wants dogmatic obedience.

[jerryskids 6,799]

On 6/21/2025 at 6:45 AM, TimHauck said:

Sorry to distract from your conversation @jerryskids.

Here’s some analysis suggesting the “trans isn’t a protected class” stuff may not be as broad as some think:

https://www.nysun.com/article/supreme-courts-decision-to-uphold-state-ban-on-medical-gender-transitions-for-minors-is-a-devastating-loss-for-transgender-people-aclu-says?member_gift=CUZ5qwd3crq4pmz-xrd

Way too many words in this article but I think these were the most relevant:

The court’s decision, however monumental, will not necessarily have sweeping implications for transgender-related litigation more broadly, according to a law professor at Duke University, Doriane Lambelet Coleman, the author of “On Sex And Gender: a Commonsense Approach.” She said that the court has left as an open question whether transgender people should be recognized as a protected class, for whom a higher level of legal scrutiny under the 14th Amendment is warranted.

…

Addressing the question of Bostock’s application outside of employment contexts, the majority found that the law “does not alter the court’s analysis.” To assess for discrimination barred by the statute, that 2020 decision applied a test in which changing the person’s sex would change the outcome of the dispute. But in the case of the Tennessee ban, the court found that this test did not, in fact, change the outcome; children would still be banned from receiving drugs for the purpose of transitioning their gender if they were the opposite sex.

However, the court issued a notably restrained ruling in this context, declining to address whether Bostock’s reasoning “reaches behind the Title VII context.” This should limit the reach of this decision.

“Lawyers working to secure trans rights can continue to use Bostock based reasoning where the language of the law allows it,” Ms. Coleman said.
 

No worries, this is a chat board, your contribution to chatting is welcome.   

However, I didn't say the court ruled Trans isn't a suspect class.  I pointed to concurring opinions that indicated three of the justices feel that way.

Which makes me think that Roberts joined the majority so that he could write a more restricted opinion.  Had he not, a majority of the majority likely would have written a much more sweeping majority decision.

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1 hour ago, squistion said:

It is imposible to have a rational discussion with anyone whose starting point is that LGBTQ people are mentally ill. 

We've had this discussion.  Trans is a mental illness.  You can call it something different if you don't like the negative connotation, but if your brain thinks you are a different sex than your body is, your brain is not working correctly.  

The question then becomes:  what do we do about it?  We seem to be as a society in a mode of "encourage it, glorify it, and provide medical ways to mutilate your body," which seems like an odd way to address a mental illness.  

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I seen a Mentally ill Crossdresser in the wild yesterday. It was at a restaurant eating with humans  

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6 hours ago, Maximum Overkill said:

I seen a Mentally ill Crossdresser in the wild yesterday. It was at a restaurant eating with humans  

So mdc was out on the town? Must have been a Red Lobster. 

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10 hours ago, squistion said:

It is imposible to have a rational discussion with anyone whose starting point is that LGBTQ people are mentally ill. 

It is impossible to have a conversation with anybody that starts by lying. LG arent mentally ill, at least the ones without monkeypox arent. To group them in with the mentally ill is just rude and dishonest. 

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32 minutes ago, jonnyutah said:

It is impossible to have a conversation with anybody that starts by lying. LG arent mentally ill, at least the ones without monkeypox arent. To group them in with the mentally ill is just rude and dishonest. 

I guarantee if you polled every actual lesbian and gay person in the United States, about 90% of them would be embarrassed how the other 10% behave. And they certainly don't want to be associated with trans and queer people.

They are not the same.

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50 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

I guarantee if you polled every actual lesbian and gay person in the United States, about 90% of them would be embarrassed how the other 10% behave. And they certainly don't want to be associated with trans and queer people.

They are not the same.

Gay and lesbian people are still mentally ill.  It's an illness I am okay with accepting, but that doesn't mean their wiring isn't focked up. And they damn sure shouldn't be allowed to adopt children.

[TimHauck 2,876]

17 hours ago, jerryskids said:

No worries, this is a chat board, your contribution to chatting is welcome.   

However, I didn't say the court ruled Trans isn't a suspect class.  I pointed to concurring opinions that indicated three of the justices feel that way.

Which makes me think that Roberts joined the majority so that he could write a more restricted opinion.  Had he not, a majority of the majority likely would have written a much more sweeping majority decision.

Sorry, didn’t say you said that.  But some on social media (from both sides) are.

https://x.com/justin_hart/status/1935342725873987762

https://x.com/BriannaWu/status/1935659168049831997

 

 

 

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4 hours ago, TimHauck said:

Sorry, didn’t say you said that.  But some on social media (from both sides) are.

https://x.com/justin_hart/status/1935342725873987762

https://x.com/BriannaWu/status/1935659168049831997

 

 

 

Brianna is right:  true trans people with gender dysphoria are going to lose their medical care and legal protections because the Woke Left made trans a hipster social contagion.  

[TimHauck 2,876]

5 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Brianna is right:  true trans people with gender dysphoria are going to lose their medical care and legal protections because the Woke Left made trans a hipster social contagion.  

But she also said “the Supreme Court ruled that trans isn’t a protected class.”  Didn’t you just say they didn’t technically “rule” that?

I am by no means a Supreme Court expert.

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1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

But she also said “the Supreme Court ruled that trans isn’t a protected class.”  Didn’t you just say they didn’t technically “rule” that?

I am by no means a Supreme Court expert.

I'm trying to have a conversation.  You are trying to get some sort of win over something I never said.  

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1 minute ago, jerryskids said:

I'm trying to have a conversation.  You are trying to get some sort of win over something I never said.  

No, I’m not, I’m trying to understand the significance of what the actual ruling is.  Seems it only applies to medical care right now, correct?  

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1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

No, I’m not, I’m trying to understand the significance of what the actual ruling is.  Seems it only applies to medical care right now, correct?  

So you have no clue what is going on, yet you keep taking sides with dumbass liberals. 

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6 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

No, I’m not, I’m trying to understand the significance of what the actual ruling is.  Seems it only applies to medical care right now, correct?  

I'm not a legal expert, nor have I read the entire ruling.  That being said, Roberts being Roberts, I presume that the ruling is as limited as he could make it:  laws prohibiting medical transing of children are OK.

[TimHauck 2,876]

8 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I'm not a legal expert, nor have I read the entire ruling.  That being said, Roberts being Roberts, I presume that the ruling is as limited as he could make it:  laws prohibiting medical transing of children are OK.

Thank you

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