listen2me 23 1,871 Posted June 25 Libs see how much places like England are failing and of course want to emulate it. Thats why these types of politicians are actually gaining ground to stand on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,313 Posted June 25 So defund the police is part of the democrat agenda again. Cool. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,207 Posted June 25 Just now, Hardcore troubadour said: So defund the police is part of the democrat agenda again. Cool. To be fair, I do not think it actually is. I think radicals who are intent on the destruction of our nation are able to find a home in the Democrat party and then effectively leverage the "D" as their useful idiots to further their desire to destroy this culture and nation. These people are not actually "Democrats" at all. They are Marxist/Socialist terrorists that the Democrats simply accept. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,159 Posted June 25 1 minute ago, RLLD said: To be fair, I do not think it actually is. I think radicals who are intent on the destruction of our nation are able to find a home in the Democrat party and then effectively leverage the "D" as their useful idiots to further their desire to destroy this culture and nation. These people are not actually "Democrats" at all. They are Marxist/Socialist terrorists that the Democrats simply accept. Where do you come up with this stuff? The Democratic Party (not Democrat) does not accept terrorists of any stripe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,207 Posted June 25 2 minutes ago, squistion said: Where do you come up with this stuff? The Democratic Party (not Democrat) does not accept terrorists of any stripe. I disagree. I think Democrats derive social currency from the premise of "being accepting". Which is fine. However, their refusal to discriminate means they allow Antifa, Hamas, criminal aliens and on and on.....and in this instance no one in the party is standing up to this clown in NYC. And as a party they should. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,957 Posted June 25 29 minutes ago, squistion said: Where do you come up with this stuff? The Democratic Party (not Democrat) does not accept terrorists of any stripe. Mayoral Race (not Mayor Race) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,747 Posted June 25 10 hours ago, TimHauck said: Wouldn’t have beaten Cuomo if not for getting a lot of Jews to vote for him. As I said in the OP, evidence that people can separate Israel from Judaism. Or, evidence that a lot of Jews aren't very Jewish. My barber is a Jew who emigrated from Soviet Russia to NY before moving here; I assure you he wouldn't have voted for Zohran. If you are a young, upper middle class person in NYC who happened to be born into a Jewish family, what better way to score social points than to support Hamas? Why, vote for a Muslim Socialist mayor! Besides, Hamas was so 2024, immigrants are the new Palestinians anyway! Tim here thinks these Jews are honoring Shabbat, going to temple, eating Kosher, and supporting a Muslim terrorist organization against their family's homeland. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,692 Posted June 25 1 minute ago, jerryskids said: Or, evidence that a lot of Jews aren't very Jewish. My barber is a Jew who emigrated from Soviet Russia to NY before moving here; I assure you he wouldn't have voted for Zohran. If you are a young, upper middle class person in NYC who happened to be born into a Jewish family, what better way to score social points than to support Hamas? Why, vote for a Muslim Socialist mayor! Besides, Hamas was so 2024, immigrants are the new Palestinians anyway! Tim here thinks these Jews are honoring Shabbat, going to temple, eating Kosher, and supporting a Muslim terrorist organization against their family's homeland. Before we have this discussion let’s start with the first point: please provide evidence that Mamdami supports Hamas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,313 Posted June 25 3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Before we have this discussion let’s start with the first point: please provide evidence that Mamdami supports Hamas. Well, he refuses to recognize Israel. So they have that in common. Need we go any further? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,692 Posted June 25 1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Well, he refuses to recognize Israel. So they have that in common. Need we go any further? Thats a lie. Here is an interview with Madami recognizing the State of Israel and its right to exist: https://www.politico.com/newsletters/new-york-playbook-pm/2025/04/17/q-a-zohran-mamdani-on-israel-hamas-palestine-war-bds-00297639 So yes you’re going to have to go further and shoe some actual evidence. Evidence means statements of support for Hamas, violence, terrorism. I’m not seeing it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,782 Posted June 25 10 minutes ago, jerryskids said: Or, evidence that a lot of Jews aren't very Jewish. My barber is a Jew who emigrated from Soviet Russia to NY before moving here; I assure you he wouldn't have voted for Zohran. If you are a young, upper middle class person in NYC who happened to be born into a Jewish family, what better way to score social points than to support Hamas? Why, vote for a Muslim Socialist mayor! Besides, Hamas was so 2024, immigrants are the new Palestinians anyway! Tim here thinks these Jews are honoring Shabbat, going to temple, eating Kosher, and supporting a Muslim terrorist organization against their family's homeland. C’mon Jerry, be serious. 1) He doesn’t support Hamas. 2) I’m gonna go out on a limb and say that NYC residents care more about the policies (of which a lot of his are pretty dumb, IMO) than “scoring social points.” Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,692 Posted June 25 Just now, TimHauck said: 2) I’m gonna go out on a limb and say that NYC residents care more about the policies (of which a lot of his are pretty dumb, IMO) than “scoring social points.” I really don’t think they’re paying too much attention to his policies. My judgment this morning is that people want fighters who will stand up to Donald Trump. Cuomo feels like another Schumer: weak. Voters want tough minded opposition. If that comes from the progressive left so be it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,313 Posted June 25 7 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Thats a lie. Here is an interview with Madami recognizing the State of Israel and its right to exist: https://www.politico.com/newsletters/new-york-playbook-pm/2025/04/17/q-a-zohran-mamdani-on-israel-hamas-palestine-war-bds-00297639 So yes you’re going to have to go further and shoe some actual evidence. Evidence means statements of support for Hamas, violence, terrorism. I’m not seeing it. At the debate he refused to answer if he supported the right of Israel to exist. Hush. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,747 Posted June 25 13 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Before we have this discussion let’s start with the first point: please provide evidence that Mamdami supports Hamas. 4 minutes ago, TimHauck said: C’mon Jerry, be serious. 1) He doesn’t support Hamas. 2) I’m gonna go out on a limb and say that NYC residents care more about the policies (of which a lot of his are pretty dumb, IMO) than “scoring social points.” I didn't say he supported Hamas. I said supporting Zohran is the new way for Woke young Jews to score social justice points, and that Hamas was so 2024. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,313 Posted June 25 Everyone on the right is responsible for far right hate groups. No one on the left is responsible for antifa and Hamas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,692 Posted June 25 1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said: At the debate he refused to answer if he supported the right of Israel to exist. Hush. I don’t know about the debate. But I just posted his exact words on the issue. I would think this would take precedence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,782 Posted June 25 1 minute ago, jerryskids said: I didn't say he supported Hamas. I said supporting Zohran is the new way for Woke young Jews to score social justice points, and that Hamas was so 2024. Didn’t you say voting for Zohran was supporting Hamas? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,747 Posted June 25 Just now, TimHauck said: Didn’t you say voting for Zohran was supporting Hamas? No. Read it again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,747 Posted June 25 Although I'm certain that the Venn Diagram between the two has a lot of overlap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,782 Posted June 25 Just now, jerryskids said: No. Read it again. So voting for Zohran is better than supporting Hamas? OK, still not sure why you even brought Hamas into it, I guess you’re using it as evidence that Jews in NYC “aren’t very Jewish.” That’s certainly a take… Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,692 Posted June 25 3 minutes ago, jerryskids said: I didn't say he supported Hamas. I said supporting Zohran is the new way for Woke young Jews to score social justice points, and that Hamas was so 2024. You wrote: “what better way to score social points that to support Hamas?” That makes no sense but putting that aside, do you mean that young woke Jews support Hamas? Or Mandami supports Hamas? Neither would be true at all but I’m confused by your meaning here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,747 Posted June 25 Just now, TimHauck said: So voting for Zohran is better than supporting Hamas? OK, still not sure why you even brought Hamas into it, I guess you’re using it as evidence that Jews in NYC “aren’t very Jewish.” That’s certainly a take… The Jews who "separate Israel from Jews" are not very Jewish. That was your initial comment. Nor are the ones who voted for a Muslim Socialist. That was my point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,747 Posted June 25 Just now, The Real timschochet said: You wrote: “what better way to score social points that to support Hamas?” That makes no sense but putting that aside, do you mean that young woke Jews support Hamas? Or Mandami supports Hamas? Neither would be true at all but I’m confused by your meaning here. And followed it up with "WHY, vote for the Muslim Socialist!" The "why" was supposed to be a sarcastic "why". Never mind, I'll write it off as a good point I had that was lost on people parsing individual words instead of the message. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,692 Posted June 25 3 hours ago, HellToupee said: Delighted because of his religion ? That’s a very odd statement Not at all. Ignorance, bigotry and intolerance of Islam is still very high in this country (this thread is a good anecdotal example.) A Muslim mayor of our largest city would fight against that. This is why identity politics continues to be important in this country and for the most part a positive good. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,747 Posted June 25 37 minutes ago, jerryskids said: Or, evidence that a lot of Jews aren't very Jewish. My barber is a Jew who emigrated from Soviet Russia to NY before moving here; I assure you he wouldn't have voted for Zohran. If you are a young, upper middle class person in NYC who happened to be born into a Jewish family, what better way to score social points than to support Hamas? Why, vote for a Muslim Socialist mayor! Besides, Hamas was so 2024, immigrants are the new Palestinians anyway! Tim here thinks these Jews are honoring Shabbat, going to temple, eating Kosher, and supporting a Muslim terrorist organization against their family's homeland. voting for a Muslim Socialist who would arrest Netanyahu. I've reread this and agree my last sentence is confusing to the overall message. I've corrected it above. HTH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 1,821 Posted June 25 In 5 years Escape From New York will look like a documentary. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,321 Posted June 25 Why would a rightie who lives nowhere near NY GAF who they vote for? I don’t know or care about the mayor of Topeka or whatever training wheels city the voters let a Repug run. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,747 Posted June 25 5 minutes ago, MDC said: Why would a rightie who lives nowhere near NY GAF who they vote for? I don’t know or care about the mayor of Topeka or whatever training wheels city the voters let a Repug run. My daughter lives there. The UN is there, and Zohran says he'll arrest the PM of Israel if he goes to NY. NYC is integral to the success of a bazillion businesses not the least of which is our entire financial infrastructure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,782 Posted June 25 42 minutes ago, jerryskids said: The Jews who "separate Israel from Jews" are not very Jewish. Can you please expand on why you feel this way? I disagree, as I do believe that someone can be anti-Israel (or at least acknowledge that Israel has committed war crimes) without being anti-Semitic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,747 Posted June 25 2 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Can you please expand on why you feel this way? I disagree, as I do believe that someone can be anti-Israel (or at least acknowledge that Israel has committed war crimes) without being anti-Semitic. Why don't you start with what war crimes they have committed, and more importantly, what they should do or should have done differently to defeat Hamas, the terrorist organization duly elected by the Palestinian people, who build their bases under hospitals and schools, and who steal aid from their own people to create photo ops of starving children for simple-minded Leftists? I still haven't gotten a single answer to this question other than "I dunno, but not that!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,692 Posted June 25 2 minutes ago, jerryskids said: Why don't you start with what war crimes they have committed, and more importantly, what they should do or should have done differently to defeat Hamas, the terrorist organization duly elected by the Palestinian people, who build their bases under hospitals and schools, and who steal aid from their own people to create photo ops of starving children for simple-minded Leftists? I still haven't gotten a single answer to this question other than "I dunno, but not that!" You HAVE gotten answers to these questions because I’ve given you them. I’m out of time this morning so I won’t give them again but I’ve explained to you in the past very specifically what Israel should have done differently and how some of their current actions could very well be considered crimes against humanity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,321 Posted June 25 9 minutes ago, jerryskids said: My daughter lives there. The UN is there, and Zohran says he'll arrest the PM of Israel if he goes to NY. NYC is integral to the success of a bazillion businesses not the least of which is our entire financial infrastructure. Your daughter would have a reason to care if she stayed there after college. If my son went to school in Phoenix I wouldn’t care about the mayoral race there. You voted for a POTUS who calls for the arrest and military tribunals of politicians, prosecutors, judges, etc. for spurious reasons all the time. NYC has been a global financial center despite Geeks describing the city as a dystopian hellhole for as long as this site has existed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,782 Posted June 25 11 minutes ago, jerryskids said: Why don't you start with what war crimes they have committed, and more importantly, what they should do or should have done differently to defeat Hamas, the terrorist organization duly elected by the Palestinian people, who build their bases under hospitals and schools, and who steal aid from their own people to create photo ops of starving children for simple-minded Leftists? I still haven't gotten a single answer to this question other than "I dunno, but not that!" Here’s one example, I’d recommend checking out Ryan Grim and DropSite News for others. https://x.com/DropSiteNews/status/1906174974823461197 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,747 Posted June 25 5 minutes ago, MDC said: Your daughter would have a reason to care if she stayed there after college. If my son went to school in Phoenix I wouldn’t care about the mayoral race there. You voted for a POTUS who calls for the arrest and military tribunals of politicians, prosecutors, judges, etc. for spurious reasons all the time. NYC has been a global financial center despite Geeks describing the city as a dystopian hellhole for as long as this site has existed. My daughter went to school in Phoenix. She lives and works in NYC now. Whatabout what now? Well then nothing bad can ever happen I guess. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,321 Posted June 25 1 minute ago, jerryskids said: My daughter went to school in Phoenix. She lives and works in NYC now. Whatabout what now? Well then nothing bad can ever happen I guess. I didn’t know that. Your adult daughter has a reason to care. Who’d she vote for? You don’t care when Trump threatens military tribunals and jailing Americans for no reason. You do care when the mayor of NY says he’d arrest a foreign leader who’s wanted by the international criminal court for war crimes. Maybe you folks don’t need to worry about New York. It seems to be doing fine despite the hysterics. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,747 Posted June 25 2 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Here’s one example, I’d recommend checking out Ryan Grim and DropSite News for others. https://x.com/DropSiteNews/status/1906174974823461197 That addresses the war crimes, but not what they should be doing in general. And regarding your link, it starts with "Israel admits mistake." You are Mr. X, do you have a link where Hamas admits a mistake? Of course not; the Left has no expectations of Hamas, it's all Israel's fault. Do you know why you can find a link like that? Because it's rare, and when it happens, Israel admits it. It's like "say their name!" -- you can say them because so few unarmed black people are killed by police. War isn't perfect. If what you posted is your model of a war crime, then you are welcome to your Focault-ish faulty moral relativism. "Both sides do bad stuff!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,747 Posted June 25 3 minutes ago, MDC said: I didn’t know that. Your adult daughter has a reason to care. Who’d she vote for? You don’t care when Trump threatens military tribunals and jailing Americans for no reason. You do care when the mayor of NY says he’d arrest a foreign leader who’s wanted by the international criminal court for war crimes. Maybe you folks don’t need to worry about New York. It seems to be doing fine despite the hysterics. Odd, I've mentioned it a jillion times. She lives in Washington Heights aka Little Dominican on the northern end of Manhattan, due west of Yankee Stadium, and works in the fashion district. She's been there almost two years and has observed that things have gotten worse in that time. I spoke to her this week; she and her roommate would like to move to Brooklyn, even though the roommate is going to Columbia med school for physical therapy which is close to their current apartment. I don't know for sure who she voted for. Last week I posted that she is fairly Leftie but she recognizes Zohran as more than a little whackadoodle. But I can't imagine voting for Cuomo would have been popular in her social circle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,782 Posted June 25 8 minutes ago, jerryskids said: That addresses the war crimes, but not what they should be doing in general. And regarding your link, it starts with "Israel admits mistake." You are Mr. X, do you have a link where Hamas admits a mistake? Of course not; the Left has no expectations of Hamas, it's all Israel's fault. Do you know why you can find a link like that? Because it's rare, and when it happens, Israel admits it. It's like "say their name!" -- you can say them because so few unarmed black people are killed by police. War isn't perfect. If what you posted is your model of a war crime, then you are welcome to your Focault-ish faulty moral relativism. "Both sides do bad stuff!" Whatabout what now? No sane person in the US supports Hamas, not sure why you keep bringing them up. We all know Hamas is awful, and because of that Israel is justified in fighting back after 10/7. But there are still a lot of people that seem to think Israel has done no wrong and that’s just not true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,471 Posted June 25 1 minute ago, TimHauck said: Whatabout what now? No sane person in the US supports Hamas, not sure why you keep bringing them up. We all know Hamas is awful, and because of that Israel is justified in fighting back after 10/7. But there are still a lot of people that seem to think Israel has done no wrong and that’s just not true. Do you actually mean that anyone who supports Hamas has a mental health issue? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,782 Posted June 25 Charlie Kirk now says we should end all immigration, legal or illegal. Slippery slopes… https://x.com/charliekirk11/status/1937864307901157675 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites