Minnesota

[Engorgeous George 2,339]

12 minutes ago, Fnord said:

I suspect you've been around long enough to know why I called him that, even if you yourself are too gentlemanly to agree with my assessment.

I am no gentleman.

[Hardcore troubadour 16,163]

lol. Liberals didn’t call Bush and Cheney racist now.

[dogcows 1,390]

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The city’s Mayor Jacob Frey swiftly pushed back on McLaughlin’s characterisation, saying the ICE agent “recklessly” shot the woman. He added that immigration agents are “causing chaos in our city”.

“They’re ripping families apart. They’re sowing chaos on our streets and in this case, quite literally killing people,” Frey said at a news conference.

“They are already trying to spin this as an action of self-defence. Having seen the video myself, I wanna tell everybody directly, that is bulls**t,” the mayor said.

He’s absolutely right, and sadly this thread is overflowing with bulls**t too.

[nobody 2,966]

2 hours ago, Fnord said:

Frey acting like a LEADER.

Take notes, MAGA, assuming you know how to read/write.

He's overseeing massive fraud?  I heard that's what good leaders do.

[Drizzay 766]

Frey is a typical East Coast Elitist.

[nobody 2,966]

Here's what I see from the two videos.

Truck pulls up.  Passenger officer who seems to have some chill gets out and says move the car.  

The driver gets out clearly pissed and makes a beeline to the wokie saying, "get out of the car.  Get out of the focking care now," at which time he tries to open the door.  

When he tries to open the door, driver decides to take off.  She backs up first and then turns toward the third officer  Third officer who I can't tell where he came is in front of the car.  Draws his gun the second the car shidts into drive from reverse.  Car pushes him as he gets off his feet and slides off hood while shooting.  First shot is through windshield.  Second and third are clearly through driver side window.

Justified shoot.  She steered into the officer while trying to evade arrest.

Agents could spend some of the flood of funding they're getting to get some de-escalation training.

Prior context would've been helpful.  Multiple people whipping out phones to video and gawk and yell like neanderthals implies the situation had relevant pretext.

[dogcows 1,390]

13 minutes ago, nobody said:

Here's what I see from the two videos.

Truck pulls up.  Passenger officer who seems to have some chill gets out and says move the car.  

The driver gets out clearly pissed and makes a beeline to the wokie saying, "get out of the car.  Get out of the focking care now," at which time he tries to open the door.  

When he tries to open the door, driver decides to take off.  She backs up first and then turns toward the third officer  Third officer who I can't tell where he came is in front of the car.  Draws his gun the second the car shidts into drive from reverse.  Car pushes him as he gets off his feet and slides off hood while shooting.  First shot is through windshield.  Second and third are clearly through driver side window.

Justified shoot.  She steered into the officer while trying to evade arrest.

Agents could spend some of the flood of funding they're getting to get some de-escalation training.

Prior context would've been helpful.  Multiple people whipping out phones to video and gawk and yell like neanderthals implies the situation had relevant pretext.

This wasn’t justified in any way whatsoever. In fact, as George also pointed out, the car sped up after he shot. If his life was ACTUALLY in danger then that would have killed him. Proof positive that he’s trigger happy and should not be allowed to serve as an armed agent of the government.

[nobody 2,966]

3 minutes ago, dogcows said:

This wasn’t justified in any way whatsoever. In fact, as George also pointed out, the car sped up after he shot. If his life was ACTUALLY in danger then that would have killed him. Proof positive that he’s trigger happy and should not be allowed to serve as an armed agent of the government.

Wrong as usual. 

She steered the car at the officer.  That by law is enough of a justification for deadly force.

[nobody 2,966]

I will say, though, it was clear that she wasn't trying to hit the officer. She was clearly trying to escape and between her panic and her car's crappy turn radius couldn't get around the officer.  But she should've stopped.  Instead she didn't care that the officer was there and kept going.  And how is he supposed to know she isn't trying to run him over?

She did actually touch the officer with her car demonstrating he was in danger.   In fact, it looks like she kind of hit his leg out from under him and he was athletic enough to just slide off the car.

Even the fact that he was close enough to basically stick his gun on the window means he was close enough to be in danger.  

Clean shoot.

 

[dogcows 1,390]

Just now, nobody said:

I will say, though, it was clear that she wasn't trying to hit the officer. She was clearly trying to escape and between her panic and her car's crappy turn radius couldn't get around the officer.  But she should've stopped.  Instead she didn't care that the officer was there and kept going.  And how is he supposed to know she isn't trying to run him over?

She did actually touch the officer with her car demonstrating he was in danger.   In fact, it looks like she kind of hit his leg out from under him and he was athletic enough to just slide off the car.

Even the fact that he was close enough to basically stick his gun on the window means he was close enough to be in danger.  

Clean shoot.

Shameful to admit he wasn’t actually in danger, and that the woman meant him no harm. But then call it a “clean shoot.”

She was literally being told to move her car; she was following instructions.

Truly appalling for you to excuse the agents. Also, why the F was he standing in front of a car that another agent was telling to move??? 

At the VERY least, this is gross incompetence. All of these agents should be out of the field pending a full investigation.

[Hardcore troubadour 16,163]

4 minutes ago, dogcows said:

Shameful to admit he wasn’t actually in danger, and that the woman meant him no harm. But then call it a “clean shoot.”

She was literally being told to move her car; she was following instructions.

Truly appalling for you to excuse the agents. Also, why the F was he standing in front of a car that another agent was telling to move??? 

At the VERY least, this is gross incompetence. All of these agents should be out of the field pending a full investigation.

Justine Damond

[Reality 3,158]

9 minutes ago, dogcows said:

Shameful to admit he wasn’t actually in danger, and that the woman meant him no harm. But then call it a “clean shoot.”

She was literally being told to move her car; she was following instructions.

Truly appalling for you to excuse the agents. Also, why the F was he standing in front of a car that another agent was telling to move??? 

At the VERY least, this is gross incompetence. All of these agents should be out of the field pending a full investigation.

You live in fantasy land.

[Hardcore troubadour 16,163]

An AG like Ellison will look to prosecute. So charge the agent now, with everything under the sun including civil rights violation, then pardon him. Same jury pool that convicted Chauvin  because Floyd overdosed. 

[dogcows 1,390]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

An AG like Ellison will look to prosecute. So charge the agent now, with everything under the sun including civil rights violation, then pardon him. Same jury pool that convicted Chauvin  because Floyd overdosed. 

Here we have more proof that MAGA causes brain damage. People with this brain damage can watch video of something happening and then believe it didn’t happen, or that something different happened.

Not surprising that the clowns who watched the Floyd murder and didn’t believe it could watch this killing and not believe it.

This world is seriously messed up when people can’t even acknowledge reality.

[Maximum Overkill 2,703]

40 minutes ago, dogcows said:

MAGA causes brain damage

Liberals are rioting as we speak. Such a violent species you are. 

[Hardcore troubadour 16,163]

53 minutes ago, dogcows said:

Here we have more proof that MAGA causes brain damage. People with this brain damage can watch video of something happening and then believe it didn’t happen, or that something different happened.

Not surprising that the clowns who watched the Floyd murder and didn’t believe it could watch this killing and not believe it.

This world is seriously messed up when people can’t even acknowledge reality.

I thought Chauvin  caused Floyd’s death after watching the video too. Then I found out he overdosed. 

[dogcows 1,390]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

I thought Chauvin  caused Floyd’s death after watching the video too. Then I found out he overdosed. 

You believed what you saw until you read a right-wing lie online. Then decided not to believe your own eyes.

Do you understand how brainwashed you are?

[Reality 3,158]

2 minutes ago, dogcows said:

You believed what you saw until you read a right-wing lie online. Then decided not to believe your own eyes.

Do you understand how brainwashed you are?

Incredible, you have absolutely zero self awareness.

[HellToupee 2,355]

4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I thought Chauvin  caused Floyd’s death after watching the video too. Then I found out he overdosed. 

We were all hoodwinked at the time

[Hardcore troubadour 16,163]

Just now, HellToupee said:

We were all hoodwinked at the time

I’m going with the autopsy. You know, science. 

[dogcows 1,390]

3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I’m going with the autopsy. You know, science. 

The autopsy that led to the murder conviction….

You didn’t actually believe the autopsy; you just believe in white supremacy over reality. It’s ok. Someday maybe medical science will be advanced enough to treat your condition.

[Reality 3,158]

Dude getting absolutely obliterated in the comments, rightfully so.

[Maximum Overkill 2,703]

Just now, Reality said:

Dude getting absolutely obliterated in the comments, rightfully so.

He's going to get arrested for inciting these riots 

[Maximum Overkill 2,703]

14 minutes ago, dogcows said:

white supremacy 

There it is. 

Liberal Bingo! What's next, Nazi, racist, white privilege? 

[Hardcore troubadour 16,163]

If the illegals that are in Minneapolis had turned themselves in like had been requested for the last year then none of this would have happened.  

[Maximum Overkill 2,703]

 

[nobody 2,966]

2 hours ago, dogcows said:

Shameful to admit he wasn’t actually in danger, and that the woman meant him no harm. But then call it a “clean shoot.”

She was literally being told to move her car; she was following instructions.

Truly appalling for you to excuse the agents. Also, why the F was he standing in front of a car that another agent was telling to move??? 

At the VERY least, this is gross incompetence. All of these agents should be out of the field pending a full investigation.

The one guy said move.  The second and most recent order was to get out of the car.  She didn't act until the superseding order came and she perceived herself to be in danger of facing some sort of consequence for her action.

Clean shoot. 

[nobody 2,966]

1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I thought Chauvin  caused Floyd’s death after watching the video too. Then I found out he overdosed. 

He wouldn't have been dead if Chauvin didn't kneel on his neck.  Therefore, Chauvin is guilty.

[dogcows 1,390]

4 minutes ago, nobody said:

The one guy said move.  The second and most recent order was to get out of the car.  She didn't act until the superseding order came and she perceived herself to be in danger of facing some sort of consequence for her action.

Clean shoot. 

So you admit she got conflicting orders of what to do, but somehow it’s her fault.

Do you even read your own posts?

ICE pointing a gun at a woman, giving her conflicting orders, then shooting her when she picked one of the orders to follow. AND the officer who fired was NOT following guidelines on where to stand OR on use of force.

Fock ALL the way off. An innocent woman is dead and you’re defending the indefensible. 

[nobody 2,966]

10 minutes ago, dogcows said:

So you admit she got conflicting orders of what to do, but somehow it’s her fault.

Do you even read your own posts?

ICE pointing a gun at a woman, giving her conflicting orders, then shooting her when she picked one of the orders to follow. AND the officer who fired was NOT following guidelines on where to stand OR on use of force.

Fock ALL the way off. An innocent woman is dead and you’re defending the indefensible. 

1. She didn't act on the order to move.
2. She didn't comply with the superseding order to get out of the car.  In fact, she was clearly trying to flee
3. No one was pointing a gun at her until she started veering the car toward an officer
4. The officer being in the wrong place doesn't give her the right to hit him with her car as she flees

Clean shoot

[nobody 2,966]

At least she proved how racist she wasn't by getting herself killed hitting a law enforcement officer with her car trying to flee.  Super not racist.

[nobody 2,966]

I guess in dogcows world, if a cop says move your car, you can run people over. (not that she almost ran the dude over because she was trying to obey that order)

This is getting seafoam level stupid.

[dogcows 1,390]

6 minutes ago, nobody said:

I guess in dogcows world, if a cop says move your car, you can run people over. (not that she almost ran the dude over because she was trying to obey that order)

This is getting seafoam level stupid.

The agent literally took one step and avoided the car completely. It was turning farther to the right to avoid him. Very easy to see all of that UNLESS you think ICE are the “good guys” in some kind of movie and can do no wrong.

Not gonna be gaslit by you. I know what I saw. All of America knows it. You are only lying to yourself. I wish I could say I’m confident this killer will face justice, but this administration has proven how corrupt they are. They’ll probably put him back out there to kill more AMERICAN CITIZENS.

 

[Sean Mooney 2,079]

5 hours ago, cyclone24 said:

So true. She could’ve obeyed orders, not blocked traffic, not trying to hit an officer, liberal policies, would’ve arrested, illegals or criminals and they could’ve just picked them up at the jail.
I don’t feel one bit sorry for her.

and of course, a bunch of dopey messageboard liberals think he should just moonwalk out of the way.

A stupid thought from you..I'm shocked

[seafoam1 3,567]

3 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

A stupid thought from you..I'm shocked

Libtards are on full spasm mode. Even this babysitter. 

[Sean Mooney 2,079]

4 hours ago, nobody said:

Here's what I see from the two videos.

Truck pulls up.  Passenger officer who seems to have some chill gets out and says move the car.  

The driver gets out clearly pissed and makes a beeline to the wokie saying, "get out of the car.  Get out of the focking care now," at which time he tries to open the door.  

When he tries to open the door, driver decides to take off.  She backs up first and then turns toward the third officer  Third officer who I can't tell where he came is in front of the car.  Draws his gun the second the car shidts into drive from reverse.  Car pushes him as he gets off his feet and slides off hood while shooting.  First shot is through windshield.  Second and third are clearly through driver side window.

Justified shoot.  She steered into the officer while trying to evade arrest.

Agents could spend some of the flood of funding they're getting to get some de-escalation training.

Prior context would've been helpful.  Multiple people whipping out phones to video and gawk and yell like neanderthals implies the situation had relevant pretext.

From a different camera angle, you can see the officer who fired comes from behind the vehicle- walks along the passenger side and then crosses in front of the car. At that point I'm relatively certain he isn't saying anything to her and she didn't see him because she was engaged with the other two officers who were giving her conflicting instructions.

From the first angle you can see he isn't hit and her wheels are turned past him. Like if she saw him initially and wanted to hit him she had the 2-3 seconds it took him to walk the front of the car. 

I think it's clear the first two officers were not really helping the situation but at least had some semblance of control. The third guy overreacted and then made her car more of a danger to everyone else there. You can also see in the foreground that an officer sort of jumps at teh gunshots as he was not expecting them. 

 

Furthermore you acknowledge she was being told to move her car. When she went to move it- she was shot at point blank range 3 times

[Hardcore troubadour 16,163]

1 hour ago, nobody said:

He wouldn't have been dead if Chauvin didn't kneel on his neck.  Therefore, Chauvin is guilty.

You saw him kneel on his neck?

[Maximum Overkill 2,703]

7 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Furthermore you acknowledge she was being told to move her car. When she went to move it- she was shot at point blank range 3 times

Dumbasss, she was told to stop and get out of her car, not drive away! 

[seafoam1 3,567]

1 minute ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Dumbasss, she was told to stop and get out of her car, not drive away! 

The babysitter can't keep up. Poor mooney..

[Maximum Overkill 2,703]

Just now, seafoam1 said:

The babysitter can't keep up. Poor mooney..

@Sean Mooney Is dumb as shitt. Don't these Pedocrats think before they post?