jonnyutah 354 Posted Wednesday at 05:17 PM 11 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: And she was appointed after. And he at least was charged and found guilty. She had never been charged with anything and denies any wrongdoing. Shouldn’t she have to at least be charged and found guilty of a crime before being removed for cause? Does Rashee Rice have more rights than Lisa Cook? Different rules for elected vs non elected. Surprised you didnt know that She has not denied it, btw. The most pesky detail of this whole thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,026 Posted Wednesday at 05:29 PM 11 minutes ago, jonnyutah said: Different rules for elected vs non elected. Surprised you didnt know that She has not denied it, btw. The most pesky detail of this whole thing. She said there is not cause to fire her. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonnyutah 354 Posted Wednesday at 05:41 PM 3 minutes ago, TimHauck said: She said there is not cause to fire her. Thank you for confirming that she hasnt denied the allegations yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonnyutah 354 Posted Wednesday at 05:49 PM Cook's team is likely going to present an argument that the understanding of "for cause" is wrongdoing while serving. Trumps team will likely argue that since she is a fed governor, discovery of any mortgage malfeasance is cause. Once the filings come out we will see, but IMO if she was going to deny it, she would have already done so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meglamaniac 637 Posted yesterday at 06:07 PM Todays Tim hero https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=697759146650911 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,581 Posted yesterday at 06:19 PM 11 minutes ago, Meglamaniac said: Todays Tim hero https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=697759146650911 Intimidating. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonnyutah 354 Posted 23 hours ago Lisa cook filed her lawsuit. Be shocked, it does not deny the allegations. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 1,957 Posted 23 hours ago 1 hour ago, Meglamaniac said: Todays Tim hero https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=697759146650911 Lock him up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,203 Posted 19 hours ago On 8/21/2025 at 2:35 PM, The Real timschochet said: Ok new thread idea. Each day I will highlight a patriot standing up for American values in the face of the growing autocracy. Today’s hero: Michelle Wu, mayor of Boston: https://www.boston.com/news/local-news/2025/08/19/stop-attacking-our-cities-wu-says-to-bondi-threatening-legal-action/?amp=1 “Stop attacking our cities. Silence in the face of oppression is not an option.” What? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MLCKAA 585 Posted 19 hours ago On 8/26/2025 at 11:00 AM, The Real timschochet said: Today’s hero: Lisa Cook, Federal Reserve: https://www.axios.com/2025/08/26/trump-fires-federal-reserve-lisa-cook Easy choice this morning. She responds to Trump’s illegal firing by refusing to leave. She is helping to protect the integrity of our federal reserve, so vital to us as a nation. Three cheers. I am surprised people fall for your trolling. But, they do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,026 Posted 18 hours ago 5 hours ago, jonnyutah said: Lisa cook filed her lawsuit. Be shocked, it does not deny the allegations. They should charge her then. She doesn’t need to deny the allegations to file the lawsuit, the question is can she be fired simply for an allegation made on social media. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 7,032 Posted 17 hours ago 2 hours ago, MLCKAA said: I am surprised people fall for your trolling. But, they do. Why do you believe that my thoughts on this matter are not genuine? They absolutely are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 7,032 Posted 17 hours ago Though I’m no lawyer common sense tells me Cook should absolutely win this lawsuit. “Cause” HAS to mean something more than Trump’s suspicion of wrongdoing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,581 Posted 16 hours ago These women going at it with Trump are all so ugly. Especially Latisha. Fanny has a big old gunt and it looks like someone beat this Cook sheister with a bat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,742 Posted 16 hours ago 8 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Though I’m no lawyer common sense tells me Cook should absolutely win this lawsuit. “Cause” HAS to mean something more than Trump’s suspicion of wrongdoing. Not sure what you mean. People get fired for cause all the time without being criminally prosecuted. When she sues and Trump goes in to court with her mortgage documents which clearly indicate her claiming principal residence on two different mortgage applications within a very short period of time, which is obviously not possible, that's cause. it's especially cause considering her position. She can't claim ignorance or some such thing or that alone would be considered cause, due to incompetence in her field. Either way cause will be easy to prove for this administration. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,026 Posted 16 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Strike said: claiming principal residence on two different mortgage applications within a very short period of time, which is obviously not possible, Yes it is. I’m skeptical she actually satisfied the definition, but it is possible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonnyutah 354 Posted 14 hours ago 1 hour ago, TimHauck said: Yes it is. I’m skeptical she actually satisfied the definition, but it is possible. "Well akshually" 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,203 Posted 14 hours ago 2 hours ago, TimHauck said: Yes it is. I’m skeptical she actually satisfied the definition, but it is possible. No it isn't. But then again, you think illegals are legal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,906 Posted 14 hours ago 3 mortgages now after the one in Massachusetts . Incredible people are defending her Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 7,032 Posted 13 hours ago 2 hours ago, Strike said: Not sure what you mean. People get fired for cause all the time without being criminally prosecuted. When she sues and Trump goes in to court with her mortgage documents which clearly indicate her claiming principal residence on two different mortgage applications within a very short period of time, which is obviously not possible, that's cause. it's especially cause considering her position. She can't claim ignorance or some such thing or that alone would be considered cause, due to incompetence in her field. Either way cause will be easy to prove for this administration. Let’s find out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,026 Posted 8 hours ago 6 hours ago, jonnyutah said: "Well akshually" Yup just pointing out Strike lying once again Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,724 Posted 8 hours ago 8 hours ago, Strike said: Not sure what you mean. People get fired for cause all the time without being criminally prosecuted. When she sues and Trump goes in to court with her mortgage documents which clearly indicate her claiming principal residence on two different mortgage applications within a very short period of time, which is obviously not possible, that's cause. it's especially cause considering her position. She can't claim ignorance or some such thing or that alone would be considered cause, due to incompetence in her field. Either way cause will be easy to prove for this administration. Usually being fired for cause is due to a dereliction of duty during the course of employment. These mortgages were acquired prior to her employment. Trump needs to prove that these mortgage applications prior to her position now cause her to be derelict in her duty as governor. Will not be easy like you say. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,724 Posted 8 hours ago The other angle here is that she was targeted. It isn't like the govt did an audit of mortgage applications and found this. They targeted governors that they want to remove so they could have political influence over the fed, and they dove into her records to find something to fire her. There could be laws against this as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,026 Posted 8 hours ago 6 hours ago, HellToupee said: 3 mortgages now after the one in Massachusetts . Incredible people are defending her This one seems like even more of a stretch. “Second homes” can legally be rented out. They keep referring to random forms she filled out for the government during the course of her work but we don’t know if those forms have different options than the mortgage forms. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meglamaniac 637 Posted 6 hours ago 10 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: Though I’m no lawyer common sense tells me Cook should absolutely win this lawsuit. “Cause” HAS to mean something more than Trump’s suspicion of wrongdoing. Wrong as usual 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,026 Posted 5 hours ago 9 minutes ago, Meglamaniac said: Wrong as usual What makes you so sure? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meglamaniac 637 Posted 5 hours ago 9 minutes ago, TimHauck said: What makes you so sure? It's Tim 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,742 Posted 5 hours ago 2 hours ago, Ron_Artest said: Usually being fired for cause is due to a dereliction of duty during the course of employment. These mortgages were acquired prior to her employment. Trump needs to prove that these mortgage applications prior to her position now cause her to be derelict in her duty as governor. Will not be easy like you say. If you think employers don't fire for cause when they find out someone did something unethical prior to being hired, especially when it's in the same field, I don't know what to tell you other than yes they do, but don't let that fact get in the way of your TDS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,026 Posted 5 hours ago Just now, Strike said: If you think employers don't fire for cause when they find out someone did something unethical prior to being hired, especially when it's in the same field, I don't know what to tell you other than yes they do, but don't let that fact get in the way of your TDS. They don’t know she did something unethical though, they just suspect it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meglamaniac 637 Posted 5 hours ago 2 minutes ago, TimHauck said: They don’t know she did something unethical though, they just suspect it LOL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,026 Posted 5 hours ago 1 minute ago, Meglamaniac said: LOL That’s pretty much the crux of her argument. I agree that if she’s guilty she should be fired, but they need to prove she actually did it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonnyutah 354 Posted 4 hours ago 51 minutes ago, TimHauck said: That’s pretty much the crux of her argument. I agree that if she’s guilty she should be fired, but they need to prove she actually did it They already proved it. It happened. She is a fed governor. She is toast. She cant claim ignorance, because she is a fed governor. And houses arent like a gallon of milk. You dont just go pick one up at the store. So the two week time frame makes any legit scenario pretty much impossible since second property would have been in process when documents were signed in the first. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,742 Posted 4 hours ago 1 hour ago, TimHauck said: They don’t know she did something unethical though, they just suspect it No, they know it. Quit moving the goalposts. Yesterday it was that she hadn't been charged/convicted. Now it's that they don't KNOW. As I stated above if it wasnt an intentional unethical act then she's not competent for the position and should be let go anyways. Her excuse is it was a clerical error. What clerical error has a person signing a document making a false representation? Dude it's ok to admit Trump is right once in a while. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonnyutah 354 Posted 3 hours ago Guys she could have bought a house. Moved all her stuff in. Drove down the street to another state found a different one she was absolutely in love with and then decided. "Wait! I want to live here now! Lets buy it and speed up the closing. Omg this new place is so amazing, i love it. I need to tell the bank though that this will be my new primary since it is within 60 days of buying the other place. Oh noes, i am having chest pain. Oh no, i think i am having a stroke. Take me to the hospital." Then she forgets everything. The new realtor reminds her of the closing and she goes and signs the mortgage. And forgets all about all of it. Now just leave her alone! She is the first disabled black woman(i mean after the stroke of course) on the board. Really just a medical miracle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,026 Posted 3 hours ago 46 minutes ago, jonnyutah said: They already proved it. It happened. She is a fed governor. She is toast. She cant claim ignorance, because she is a fed governor. And houses arent like a gallon of milk. You dont just go pick one up at the store. So the two week time frame makes any legit scenario pretty much impossible since second property would have been in process when documents were signed in the first. Pretty sure the legal definition of primary residence generally means 183 days a year. Both residences could have technically been her primary residence for the first year of owning them, which is generally the only relevant timeframe. Even the Zillow listing that Pulte used as his “evidence” was from more than a year after it was purchased. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,026 Posted 3 hours ago 43 minutes ago, Strike said: No, they know it. Quit moving the goalposts. Yesterday it was that she hadn't been charged/convicted. Now it's that they don't KNOW. As I stated above if it wasnt an intentional unethical act then she's not competent for the position and should be let go anyways. Her excuse is it was a clerical error. What clerical error has a person signing a document making a false representation? Dude it's ok to admit Trump is right once in a while. She didn’t say it was a clerical error. I see articles running with that, but that’s not what she said. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 1,977 Posted 2 hours ago 36 minutes ago, TimHauck said: She didn’t say it was a clerical error. I see articles running with that, but that’s not what she said. So Bloomberg is lying? I swear. Between you and ron, I cant figure out who has the worst TDS Cook, though, is seeking to block the move, filing a lawsuit in federal court on Thursday that labeled the president’s bid to oust her as “illegal” and casting it as a bid to seize control of the Fed. Her lawyers have also suggested that an unintentional “clerical error” may be behind the mortgage disputes in Pulte’s first criminal referral. The Department of Justice has already signaled plans to investigate Cook over the earlier referral. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,581 Posted 2 hours ago So she didn’t notice the lower interest rate? Good thing she is one of the people voting on the interest rate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,742 Posted 2 hours ago 42 minutes ago, TimHauck said: She didn’t say it was a clerical error. I see articles running with that, but that’s not what she said. You understand that when her lawyers put something in a court pleasing that they are speaking for their client, don't you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonnyutah 354 Posted 2 hours ago 45 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Pretty sure the legal definition of primary residence generally means 183 days a year. Both residences could have technically been her primary residence for the first year of owning them, which is generally the only relevant timeframe. Even the Zillow listing that Pulte used as his “evidence” was from more than a year after it was purchased. Nope. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites