ANOTHER case of ICE not giving due process

[SaintsInDome2006 881]

10 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I’ll say it again, they are bringing babies to protests. 

I get it, I probably even agree they’re doing that -at protests This involved moving cars. People milling around on the street aren’t in a protest.

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 I got my 30 Case Natural Ice 5.9s

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1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I’ll take that as a no. So dangerous. People shouldn’t be “living their life” and bringing babies out into such an environment 

People in Minneapolis are supposed to shelter in place while the Gestapo goes door to door?

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7 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

People in Minneapolis are supposed to shelter in place while the Gestapo goes door to door?

Schools open? 

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1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Schools open? 

Yes they are.  Do you have a point?

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2 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Yes they are.  Do you have a point?

I thought they were closing them?

[SaintsInDome2006 881]

16 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I’ll take that as a no. So dangerous. People shouldn’t be “living their life” and bringing babies out into such an environment 

While shopping. Yes, that’s the point.

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8 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I thought they were closing them?

You have a lot of dumb thoughts.

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Just now, Ron_Artest said:

You have a lot of dumb thoughts.

They did close them. You didn’t know? 

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7 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

They did close them. You didn’t know? 

Not permanently you numb skull.  Jesus dude.

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This administration wanted to prosecute the widow of the woman their agents just killed and called a “f-ing b-tch.”

Multiple federal prosecutors quit their jobs rather than do such a reprehensible thing.

There are some people of conscience, and more are stepping up. This regime is getting more cruel and oppressive by the day.

[SaintsInDome2006 881]

Pepper spray & tear gas.

[SaintsInDome2006 881]

 

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22 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

 

Did you want them to leave him "freezing"?

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Turdcore voted for this 

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1 hour ago, Ron_Artest said:

Not permanently you numb skull.  Jesus dude.

Oh. So they did close them. That’s when I saw the baby at the protest. 

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52 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

 

Probably a rapist. 

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5 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Probably a rapist. 

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5 hours ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Hm, good movie. IRL men with war weapons are walking through Targets.

This has to be something you could see on any given day in inner city Nawlins.  Or do you avoid those areas?

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20 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

 

 

Fraudster 

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19 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

 

 

I don’t believe him. Drunk

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Yikes.

 

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You lost Rogan, fock wads

 

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F every single person who voted for this.

And a triple FU to those still supporting it.

These thugs are tearing this country apart.

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6 hours ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

This is the video of the original incident, posted wuth commentary by US Rep. Crenshaw, which when I look at it really makes me think of the issue of perspective that keeps coming up. Maga folks look at these incidents and think they’re inculpatory.

Wait, people are actually trying to claim this is the Target employee “taking a swing” at the officer?  HFS.  I bet @Reality is one of those idiots 

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Some Democrats are talking about sharply cutting ICE funding from the upcoming government funding bill.

I say they should make it a red line. If Republicans want the government to stay open, ICE funding has got to be cut to the bone. Make ICE small enough to melt in a bathtub.

Sadly, I expect folks like Fetterman to give the GOP the votes they need to keep ICE gleefully detaining and killing innocent Americans.

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The attempted gaslighting of Americans is NOT working. Sure, there are some low IQ people that actually believe the party line, but the vast majority of Americans trust our own eyes.

 

[SaintsInDome2006 881]

We Found More Than 40 Cases of Immigration Agents Using Banned Chokeholds and Other Moves That Can Cut Off Breathing

 

>>>Tenth grader Arnoldo Bazan and his father were getting McDonald’s before school when their car was pulled over by unmarked vehicles. Masked immigration agents started banging on their windows. As Arnoldo’s undocumented father, Arnulfo Bazan Carrillo, drove off, the terrified teenager began filming on his phone. The video shows the agents repeatedly ramming the Bazans’ car during a slow chase through the city.

Bazan Carrillo eventually parked and ran into a restaurant supply store. When Arnoldo saw agents taking his father violently to the ground, Arnoldo went inside too, yelling at the agents to stop.

One agent put Arnoldo in a chokehold while another pressed a knee into his father’s neck. “I was going to school!” the boy pleaded. He said later that when he told the agent he was a citizen and a minor, the agent didn’t stop.

“I started screaming with everything I had, because I couldn’t even breathe,” Arnoldo told ProPublica, showing where the agent’s hands had closed around his throat. “I felt like I was going to pass out and die.”

DHS’ McLaughlin accused Arnoldo’s dad of ramming his car “into a federal law enforcement vehicle,” but he was never charged for that, and the videos we reviewed do not support this claim. Our examination of his criminal history — separate from any immigration violations — found only that Bazan Carrillo pleaded guilty a decade ago to misdemeanor driving while intoxicated.

McLaughlin also said the younger Bazan elbowed an officer in the face as he was detained, which the teen denies. She said that Arnoldo was taken into custody to confirm his identity and make sure he didn’t have any weapons. McLaughlin did not answer whether the agent’s conduct was justified.

Experts who reviewed video of the Bazans’ arrests could make no sense of the agents’ actions.

“Why are you in the middle of a store trying to grab somebody?” said Marc Brown, a former police officer turned instructor who taught ICE and Border Patrol officers at the Federal Law Enforcement Training Centers. “Your arm underneath the neck, like a choking motion? No! The knee on the neck? Absolutely not.” 

 

…Back in Houston, immigration officers dropped 16-year-old Arnoldo off at the doorstep of his family home a few hours after the arrest. His neck was bruised, and his new shirt was shredded. Videos taken by his older sisters show the soccer star struggling to speak through sobs.

Uncertain what exactly had happened to him, his sister Maria Bazan took him to Texas Children’s Hospital, where staff identified signs of the chokehold and moved him to the trauma unit. Hospital records show he was given morphine for pain and that doctors ordered a dozen CT scans and X-rays, including of his neck, spine and head.

From the hospital, Maria called the Houston Police Department and tried to file a report, the family said. After several unsuccessful attempts, she took Arnoldo to the department in person, where she says officers were skeptical of the account and their own ability to investigate federal agents.

Arnoldo had filmed much of the incident, but agents had taken his phone. He used Find My to locate the phone — at a vending machine for used electronics miles away, close to an ICE detention center. The footage, which ProPublica has reviewed, backed the family’s account of the chase.

 

The family says Houston police still haven’t interviewed them. A department spokesperson told ProPublica it was not investigating the case, referring questions to DHS. But the police have also not released bodycam footage and case files aside from a top sheet, citing an open investigation.

“We can’t do anything,” Maria said one officer told her. “What can HPD do to federal agents?” … <<<

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2 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

We Found More Than 40 Cases of Immigration Agents Using Banned Chokeholds and Other Moves That Can Cut Off Breathing

 

>>>Tenth grader Arnoldo Bazan and his father were getting McDonald’s before school when their car was pulled over by unmarked vehicles. Masked immigration agents started banging on their windows. As Arnoldo’s undocumented father, Arnulfo Bazan Carrillo, drove off, the terrified teenager began filming on his phone. The video shows the agents repeatedly ramming the Bazans’ car during a slow chase through the city.

Bazan Carrillo eventually parked and ran into a restaurant supply store. When Arnoldo saw agents taking his father violently to the ground, Arnoldo went inside too, yelling at the agents to stop.

One agent put Arnoldo in a chokehold while another pressed a knee into his father’s neck. “I was going to school!” the boy pleaded. He said later that when he told the agent he was a citizen and a minor, the agent didn’t stop.

“I started screaming with everything I had, because I couldn’t even breathe,” Arnoldo told ProPublica, showing where the agent’s hands had closed around his throat. “I felt like I was going to pass out and die.”

DHS’ McLaughlin accused Arnoldo’s dad of ramming his car “into a federal law enforcement vehicle,” but he was never charged for that, and the videos we reviewed do not support this claim. Our examination of his criminal history — separate from any immigration violations — found only that Bazan Carrillo pleaded guilty a decade ago to misdemeanor driving while intoxicated.

McLaughlin also said the younger Bazan elbowed an officer in the face as he was detained, which the teen denies. She said that Arnoldo was taken into custody to confirm his identity and make sure he didn’t have any weapons. McLaughlin did not answer whether the agent’s conduct was justified.

Experts who reviewed video of the Bazans’ arrests could make no sense of the agents’ actions.

“Why are you in the middle of a store trying to grab somebody?” said Marc Brown, a former police officer turned instructor who taught ICE and Border Patrol officers at the Federal Law Enforcement Training Centers. “Your arm underneath the neck, like a choking motion? No! The knee on the neck? Absolutely not.” 

 

…Back in Houston, immigration officers dropped 16-year-old Arnoldo off at the doorstep of his family home a few hours after the arrest. His neck was bruised, and his new shirt was shredded. Videos taken by his older sisters show the soccer star struggling to speak through sobs.

Uncertain what exactly had happened to him, his sister Maria Bazan took him to Texas Children’s Hospital, where staff identified signs of the chokehold and moved him to the trauma unit. Hospital records show he was given morphine for pain and that doctors ordered a dozen CT scans and X-rays, including of his neck, spine and head.

From the hospital, Maria called the Houston Police Department and tried to file a report, the family said. After several unsuccessful attempts, she took Arnoldo to the department in person, where she says officers were skeptical of the account and their own ability to investigate federal agents.

Arnoldo had filmed much of the incident, but agents had taken his phone. He used Find My to locate the phone — at a vending machine for used electronics miles away, close to an ICE detention center. The footage, which ProPublica has reviewed, backed the family’s account of the chase.

 

The family says Houston police still haven’t interviewed them. A department spokesperson told ProPublica it was not investigating the case, referring questions to DHS. But the police have also not released bodycam footage and case files aside from a top sheet, citing an open investigation.

“We can’t do anything,” Maria said one officer told her. “What can HPD do to federal agents?” … <<<

Evil f-ers, defund ICE immediately. Put them all in the unemployment line.

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3 hours ago, listen2me 23 said:

This has to be something you could see on any given day in inner city Nawlins.  Or do you avoid those areas?

“Has to be”, like you don’t know yourself? “Inner city”, that’s funny. We don’t have any Bed Stuys here. This is a town of shortcuts, I grew up on them. But no federal agents don’t waltz through our stores carrying armor & big weapons.

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3 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Probably a rapist. 

That’s amusing. I saw this very clip on Fox tonight, they blurred out the kid’s image, couldn’t even tell it was a minor. But of course they must have some policy to not show minors’ images. Ridiculous.

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2 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Fraudster 

Yeah, he just conned 5 CBP guys with guns, I’m sure. Him telling the one guy he’s Border Patrol & he’s outside his jurisdiction (which is true) & outside the Constitution, & they backed down. This whole thing is like fever dreams from 2001 about DHS, the Patriot Act & 2009 about Jade Helm. It’s crazy. 

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3 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I don’t believe him. Drunk

Another veteran, Jesse Ventura, shows up for duty.

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The illegals should do their part and leave.