US Federal Government Shutdown Thread

[squistion 2,527]

37 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

No I don’t remember it and I’m pretty sure you’re lying about it. 

Of course Brahma is lying about it. Their playbook is to lie about something that they claim you said and when you ask for a link they say the thread was deleted but everyone remembers that you said it.  

[The Real timschochet 7,440]

So the original demand from the Democrats was to make the ACA subsidies permanent. Now they are compromising, asking for a 1 year extension only. Thune says it’s a non-starter.

Why? Why keep the government shut down over 1 year of spending? 

[jonnyutah 541]

10 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

Then he came back and said he was wrong.  Stop acting like a doosh.

He lied con artest.

[The Real timschochet 7,440]

Here is Townhall.Com, reacting to the Supreme Court stay on SNAP payments: 

“Good! SNAP is RIFE with fraud! Time for MASSIVE CHANGES to the program, and no more dessert cakes, sugary junk, luxury coffee, etc.” 

“Please sir,” said Oliver Twist, “May I have some more?” 
“MORE!” Mr. Bumble roared. “More, you ungrateful wretch!” 

[squistion 2,527]

5 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

So the original demand from the Democrats was to make the ACA subsidies permanent. Now they are compromising, asking for a 1 year extension only. Thune says it’s a non-starter.

Why? Why keep the government shut down over 1 year of spending? 

Why would a 1 year extension be a non-starter? This would end the shutdown and kick the can down the road for another year.

What am I missing here in Thune's thinking, outside of that the don't want to negotiate at all?

[The Real timschochet 7,440]

8 minutes ago, jonnyutah said:

He lied con artest.

 

[The Real timschochet 7,440]

1 minute ago, squistion said:

Why would a 1 year extension be a non-starter? This would end the shutdown and kick the can down the road for another year.

What am I missing here in Thune's thinking, outside of that they don’t want to negotiate at all? 

Nothing. You’re missing nothing. 

[BrahmaBulls 930]

1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

No I don’t remember it and I’m pretty sure you’re lying about it. 

Good since you're wrong about 95% of the time.

[BrahmaBulls 930]

48 minutes ago, squistion said:

Of course Brahma is lying about it. Their playbook is to lie about something that they claim you said and when you ask for a link they say the thread was deleted but everyone remembers that you said it.  

F off, troll.  You were the main one that got that thread deleted trolling the sh!t out of it.

[jerryskids 7,080]

3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Nothing. You’re missing nothing. 

You responded to me as if you understood, then went back to this idiotic idea of giving an extension for a year, beyond the upcoming full budget. 

That's not a negotiation.  That's a gift with money we don't have.

If I were the Reps, I'd agree to extend the Covid ACA subsidies to the date they target for the full budget.  And I would require the Dems to decide what of their boondoggle things they are willing to drop to pay to keep them going.

[Strike 6,015]

12 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

Bullsh!t. They were ordered not to work. This is on Trump. 

ROFLMAO.  You're just making stuff up again.  I know some air traffic controllers and I can tell you with 100% certainty that they were not told not to work.  What a dumbass.

[Strike 6,015]

Why should we extend subsidies that were put in to effect due to COVID?

[FrancieFootball 162]

8 minutes ago, Strike said:

Why should we extend subsidies that were put in to effect due to COVID?

To end the government shutdown and then create a bipartisan committee to study the issue and come up with ideas.

Sounds good to me.

[Strike 6,015]

4 minutes ago, FrancieFootball said:

To end the government shutdown and then create a bipartisan committee to study the issue and come up with ideas.

Sounds good to me.

COVID is over.  And what did you get banned for this time Rusty?

[FrancieFootball 162]

19 minutes ago, Strike said:

COVID is over.  And what did you get banned for this time Rusty?

It's temporary, and Democrats want to create a bipartisan committee to discuss the issue. 

MAGAs need to learn to compromise. 

[The Real timschochet 7,440]

39 minutes ago, Strike said:

ROFLMAO.  You're just making stuff up again.  I know some air traffic controllers and I can tell you with 100% certainty that they were not told not to work.  What a dumbass.

I was wrong about that and acknowledged it. 

[The Real timschochet 7,440]

50 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

You responded to me as if you understood, then went back to this idiotic idea of giving an extension for a year, beyond the upcoming full budget. 

That's not a negotiation.  That's a gift with money we don't have.

If I were the Reps, I'd agree to extend the Covid ACA subsidies to the date they target for the full budget.  And I would require the Dems to decide what of their boondoggle things they are willing to drop to pay to keep them going.

Again if they offer that I’m betting the Dems will accept it. But they won’t offer it. 

[The Real timschochet 7,440]

39 minutes ago, Strike said:

Why should we extend subsidies that were put in to effect due to COVID?

Because people still need the money; they won’t be able to afford ACA otherwise. 

[Strike 6,015]

3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Because people still need the money; they won’t be able to afford ACA otherwise. 

We should repeal the ACA anyways.  It's garbage legislation.  

[Strike 6,015]

7 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I was wrong about that and acknowledged it. 

Right.  You made it up.

[SaintsInDome2006 650]

3 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

Supreme Court grants Trump’s emergency stay request to halt SNAP payments: 

https://apnews.com/article/snap-food-government-shutdown-trump-a807e9f0c0a7213e203c074553dc1f9b

Winning? 

Good lord, these people actually act like they’re on the take. There’s no constitutionality at issue here. Funds are appropriated. This will take forever.

[Ron_Artest 2,213]

6 hours ago, Strike said:

We should repeal the ACA anyways.  It's garbage legislation.  

You're suggesting taking away health insurance from 44M people?

[Maximum Overkill 2,437]

1 hour ago, Ron_Artest said:

You're suggesting taking away health insurance from 44M people?

Yes. Get your own 

[Ron_Artest 2,213]

Democrats really extend the Olive Branch One-year extension at a cost of 30 million. That's less money than we just gave to Argentina. Republicans would rather shut the government down than give healthcare to people for one year.

Your moved Donald

[Maximum Overkill 2,437]

Just now, Ron_Artest said:

One-year extension at a cost of 30 million

For ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS, NOT AMERICANS. 

YOU CARE MORE ABOUT ILLEGAL ALIENS THAN AMERICAN CITIZENS 

[Ron_Artest 2,213]

7 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

For ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS, NOT AMERICANS. 

YOU CARE MORE ABOUT ILLEGAL ALIENS THAN AMERICAN CITIZENS 

Lies.  Illegals can't enroll in Obamacare 

[BrahmaBulls 930]

8 hours ago, FrancieFootball said:

It's temporary, and Democrats want to create a bipartisan committee to discuss the issue. 

MAGAs need to learn to compromise. 

Like Obama did?

[Maximum Overkill 2,437]

11 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Lies.  Illegals can't enroll in Obamacare 

SNAP you dumb asss.

They get free healthcare regardless. Hospitals cannot turn anyone away, especially when they have fake names 

[Ron_Artest 2,213]

34 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

SNAP you dumb asss.

They get free healthcare regardless. Hospitals cannot turn anyone away, especially when they have fake names 

We're talking about ACA subsidies, dumb ass.

When the govt opens people will get snap regardless.  They're supposed to get it now but your boy is blocking it.

[jerryskids 7,080]

9 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

Again if they offer that I’m betting the Dems will accept it. But they won’t offer it. 

Why don't the Dems offer it?  Since, you know, the Dems are keeping the government closed?  And this is NOT supposed to be a negotiation, which all of you Lefties ignore whenever I say it.  The negotiation is supposed to be for the actual budget.

1 hour ago, Ron_Artest said:

Democrats really extend the Olive Branch One-year extension at a cost of 30 million. That's less money than we just gave to Argentina. Republicans would rather shut the government down than give healthcare to people for one year.

Your moved Donald

This proposal is idiotic, see my comments up thread.  It would take these payments off the table for the actual budget discussion.  I would be in favor of extending them for the period of the CR, not to exceed a certain date so that the Dems don't avoid approving the budget.

[thegeneral 3,594]

Is the cost of the plan to cover these subsidies about 40 billion for the next year? That will allow these dipshits to reopen the government?

[Ron_Artest 2,213]

14 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Why don't the Dems offer it?  Since, you know, the Dems are keeping the government closed?  And this is NOT supposed to be a negotiation, which all of you Lefties ignore whenever I say it.  The negotiation is supposed to be for the actual budget.

This proposal is idiotic, see my comments up thread.  It would take these payments off the table for the actual budget discussion.  I would be in favor of extending them for the period of the CR, not to exceed a certain date so that the Dems don't avoid approving the budget.

It's not idiotic.  It's a year so that people who sign up for the ACA know what their payments will be for one year.

I'm sure that if by miracle a budget was passed, which hasn't happened since 1997, that the budget would override anything in the cr.  In fact as a matter of negotiation if reps wanted to to do that, ok fine.  But they don't want to negotiate.  That's why we're shutdown.

[Ron_Artest 2,213]

3 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Is the cost of the plan to cover these subsidies about 40 billion for the next year? That will allow these dipshits to reopen the government?

Less, about 30 billion.  Instead of giving money to Argentina, we could give people a year of health insurance and still have 10B leftover.

[thegeneral 3,594]

8 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Less, about 30 billion.  Instead of giving money to Argentina, we could give people a year of health insurance and still have 10B leftover.

Ok. So my question to anyone who thinks this is a bad idea is is this number accurate? If it is accurate why would you oppose this?

[thegeneral 3,594]

How the America First cheerleaders are letting this slide - giving Argentina 40 billion to set on fire while the government is suing itself to not give out food stamps and canceling flights all over the place among all the other shet - is wild to me.

Where are you people at?

[Maximum Overkill 2,437]

2 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

How the America First cheerleaders are letting this slide - giving Argentina 40 billion to set on fire while the government is suing itself to not give out food stamps and canceling flights all over the place among all the other shet - is wild to me.

Where are you people at?

"If Zohran Mamdani is truly serious about helping working families, he wouldn’t be jetting off to a luxury resort the moment he wins an election," Rep. Mike Lawler, R-N.Y.,

AMERICANS ARE STARVING!!!!! 

[thegeneral 3,594]

1 minute ago, Maximum Overkill said:

"If Zohran Mamdani is truly serious about helping working families, he wouldn’t be jetting off to a luxury resort the moment he wins an election," Rep. Mike Lawler, R-N.Y.,

AMERICANS ARE STARVING!!!!! 

You can give him all kinds of shet about this. 

Why would you want to keep the government shutdown over 40 billion (or less)?

[Maximum Overkill 2,437]

2 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

You can give him all kinds of shet about this. 

Why would you want to keep the government shutdown over 40 billion (or less)?

Ask Schumer 

[thegeneral 3,594]

2 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Ask Schumer 

Schumer has offered up this deal, right?

If he did why isn’t it being taken up.

Aren’t we taking in “trillions” in tariffs that we are all paying tor ultimately? Where the Fock is the money going?

[The Real timschochet 7,440]

53 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Why don't the Dems offer it?  Since, you know, the Dems are keeping the government closed?  And this is NOT supposed to be a negotiation, which all of you Lefties ignore whenever I say it.  The negotiation is supposed to be for the actual budget.

This proposal is idiotic, see my comments up thread.  It would take these payments off the table for the actual budget discussion.  I would be in favor of extending them for the period of the CR, not to exceed a certain date so that the Dems don't avoid approving the budget.

Again it’s not idiotic. A year, rather than permanent, is a major concession, an attempt at real compromise. Now you’re demanding that the Democrats compromise further while the Republicans do nothing. That’s not the way negotiations work. 

And that’s the whole point. From the start the Republicans have refused to negotiate about any of this.