US Federal Government Shutdown Thread

[Meglamaniac 784]

Just now, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Ha right, what I just said notwithstanding. The sky actually did fall.

OK

[Strike 5,997]

1 hour ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

All kidding aside if we get out of this thing the precedents being set are potentially quite dangerous.

What precedents?   Not passing a clean CR?  

[SaintsInDome2006 624]

22 minutes ago, Strike said:

What precedents?   Not passing a clean CR?  

Troops deployed into the states. Obliteration of independent appointees. Destruction of firewalls between President & DOJ & other federal law enforcement. Enabling of executive branch on appropriations. Closing of Congress. Ending of the Confirmation process for political appointees. It’s a long list.

[Voltaire 5,470]

The GOP had the votes to lockthe Democrats completely out out of the budget process, but to do so, they had negotiate closely to get nearly everyone on board and it took a massive amount of arm twisting to get those votes for the Big Beautiful Bill across the finish line. The Dems couldn't stop them then, but they can here since they will need Dem votes to fund the government. Previously, this funding the government maneuver has always been used by budget hawks to wrest a concession or two out of the bloated budget, before getting beaten to a pulp by the overwhelming and bipartisan "I don't give a fock" contingent. In this instance, the Dems, generally the party of big government, are using it to try to blow up the deficit instead.

I don't much care if illegal immigrants or work-averse societal freeloading leeches like GFIAFP are stripped of their taxpayer subsidized health care, but I would like to see SNAP funded, government offices opened, and the people who work there to get paid. These are fair and traditional debates from back in the day, when both/either party was worth voting for when the other one in charge went off the deep end and we'd need the other to rein it in.

I despise the Democratic Party and recognize then as vile, evil human scum turds that have been spawned directly from Satan's colon for other reasons.

[thegeneral 3,569]

 

[The Real timschochet 7,395]

14 hours ago, Voltaire said:

 

I despise the Democratic Party and recognize then as vile, evil human scum turds that have been spawned directly from Satan's colon

I enjoy this imagery. Never thought of myself this way but hey, why not? 

[dogcows 1,055]

16 hours ago, Voltaire said:

The GOP had the votes to lockthe Democrats completely out out of the budget process, but to do so, they had negotiate closely to get nearly everyone on board and it took a massive amount of arm twisting to get those votes for the Big Beautiful Bill across the finish line. The Dems couldn't stop them then, but they can here since they will need Dem votes to fund the government. Previously, this funding the government maneuver has always been used by budget hawks to wrest a concession or two out of the bloated budget, before getting beaten to a pulp by the overwhelming and bipartisan "I don't give a fock" contingent. In this instance, the Dems, generally the party of big government, are using it to try to blow up the deficit instead.

I don't much care if illegal immigrants or work-averse societal freeloading leeches like GFIAFP are stripped of their taxpayer subsidized health care, but I would like to see SNAP funded, government offices opened, and the people who work there to get paid. These are fair and traditional debates from back in the day, when both/either party was worth voting for when the other one in charge went off the deep end and we'd need the other to rein it in.

I despise the Democratic Party and recognize then as vile, evil human scum turds that have been spawned directly from Satan's colon for other reasons.

The Big Pitiful Bill did way more to blow up the deficit than any legislation since Trump’s first term tax cuts.

Billionaires keep getting richer, the rest of us get poorer, and the GOP are accelerating the process.

GOP is pinching pennies with working class benefits while handing out trillions to the richest people. This is class warfare, and 77 million in the losing class voted for their wealthy conquerors. Truly an idiotic bunch of people.

[squistion 2,496]

 

[thegeneral 3,569]

Maybe people will be heartened to know Donald is building a big ghey ballroom to host foreign leaders in! 

He also sent 40 Bil to Argentina because he likes their weirdo Prez

[MDC 7,853]

 

[jerryskids 7,064]

3 hours ago, thegeneral said:

 

This idiot voted against the CR.  Luckily it still passed the House.  But he has the gall to post this, like it's the R's fault.

Lots of low intelligence people out there.  We see it here every day.

 

[The Real timschochet 7,395]

Normally this is the time (it’s way past time actually) that a normal President calls a meeting with the leaders on both sides in the Oval, and a deal is quickly hammered out. This is the way every past shutdown has ended. 

[Ron_Artest 2,171]

11 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

This idiot voted against the CR.  Luckily it still passed the House.  But he has the gall to post this, like it's the R's fault.

Lots of low intelligence people out there.  We see it here every day.

 

You seriously don't understand how politics works?  And you call other people low IQ?

[thegeneral 3,569]

19 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

This idiot voted against the CR.  Luckily it still passed the House.  But he has the gall to post this, like it's the R's fault.

Lots of low intelligence people out there.  We see it here every day.

 

Maybe Don should post more about his 60 million in golf trips this year and his Halloween Great Gatsby party!

[thegeneral 3,569]

Unfortunately at this point it is about winning public opinion. Both sides have their issue they are dug in on and will tell you with absolute conviction they are right, why they let this happen, etc.

When people with nothing are about to lose their 150 a month for food or whatever it’s in poor taste for the Prez, the one who this all is on paraphrasing his own words, to post about his new bathroom tile like he’s a home improvement game show. 

[jerryskids 7,064]

1 hour ago, Ron_Artest said:

You seriously don't understand how politics works?  And you call other people low IQ?

I think I've got it.

1. Dems try to use the CR to not continue things but rather to undo stuff they don't like in the BBB and help keep Schumer from getting primaried by a far left candidate.

2. MSM tells simple people it's the R's fault.

3. Gutter posts.

How'd I do?

[Ron_Artest 2,171]

 

[Ron_Artest 2,171]

5 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I think I've got it.

1. Dems try to use the CR to not continue things but rather to undo stuff they don't like in the BBB and help keep Schumer from getting primaried by a far left candidate.

2. MSM tells simple people it's the R's fault.

3. Gutter posts.

How'd I do?

I already explained why this is Trump's fault.  He's the president.  It's his job to resolve this but he's at a Halloween party.

[Ron_Artest 2,171]

 

 

[Ron_Artest 2,171]

Millions are hungry, their healthcare is doubled.  Trump's America.

[Strike 5,997]

34 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

I already explained why this is Trump's fault.  He's the president.  It's his job to resolve this but he's at a Halloween party.

It's actually not his job.  You might think so because congress has ceded so much power to the Executive branch over the last 40 years.  I've been harping on that for literally decades.  But you might not be aware but budgeting and appropriations are the job of congress, not the President.  There's a reason our forefathers created a system of government that has 3 distinct branches.  HTH.

[The Real timschochet 7,395]

2 minutes ago, Strike said:

It's actually not his job.  You might think so because congress has ceded so much power to the Executive branch over the last 40 years.  I've been harping on that for literally decades.  But you might not be aware but budgeting and appropriations are the job of congress, not the President.  There's a reason our forefathers created a system of government that has 3 distinct branches.  HTH.

Your argument might have some validity in theory but in practice it’s his job. It’s been the President’s job pretty much since FDR. 
I would also add that every modern President when they run for office, including this one, makes all kinds of campaign promises based on the implication that they are in fact responsible for the actions of Congress and all of federal government. 

[The Real timschochet 7,395]

49 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

 

2. MSM tells simple people it's the R's fault.

 

Please provide a specific example of the MSM falsely reporting on the shutdown. 

[Ron_Artest 2,171]

11 minutes ago, Strike said:

It's actually not his job.  You might think so because congress has ceded so much power to the Executive branch over the last 40 years.  I've been harping on that for literally decades.  But you might not be aware but budgeting and appropriations are the job of congress, not the President.  There's a reason our forefathers created a system of government that has 3 distinct branches.  HTH.

So then you would agree with me that the president cannot cancel congressional appropriated funding like he has, correct?

You walked right into that one, dummy.

So of course it's not the presidents job to pass a budget, but whose job is it to ensure the govt stays open, to bring both sides together to forge a compromise?

You might not believe this but most people agree it starts and ends at the top.

[SaintsInDome2006 624]

>>He's living his best life while millions of Americans face hunger.

Although they voted for him, not one raggedy-toothed MAGA was invited.<<
 

They know, maga revels in it. The whole idea is communists & trans-wokists will destroy the country if they’re allowed to take power, so 1. Everything is permissible, & 2. If it upsets the libs it’s good.

[Ron_Artest 2,171]

8 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Please provide a specific example of the MSM falsely reporting on the shutdown. 

This is how dumb skids is. There is another thread of the MSM blaming Democrats, and the idiot @jerryskids actually said that even the MSM knows it's the Democrats fault 

But now he says they blame Trump.

 

[dogcows 1,055]

The GOP overrode the filibuster this year for: 

1. Killing EV mandate in California
2. Passing $3.8 trillion in tax cuts for the top 1%
3. Confirming presidential cabinet positions en masse

But they won’t do it to keep the government open. GOP priorities laid bare.

[SaintsInDome2006 624]

 I must say there is some 1st class prime hookerage at the Maralago Bachanalis. My word, deep bench behind Erika, Melania, Lara, Lindsey, Kristi, Nancy… I can see how Epstein gravitated there.

[Meglamaniac 784]

6 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

 I must say there is some 1st class prime hookerage at the Maralago Bachanalis. My word, deep bench behind Erika, Melania, Lara, Lindsey, Kristi, Nancy… I can see how Epstein gravitated there.

3 more years

you gonna make it

[nobody 2,876]

2 hours ago, Strike said:

It's actually not his job.  You might think so because congress has ceded so much power to the Executive branch over the last 40 years.  I've been harping on that for literally decades.  But you might not be aware but budgeting and appropriations are the job of congress, not the President.  There's a reason our forefathers created a system of government that has 3 distinct branches.  HTH.

Dude really said he explained it by saying "he's the president and it's his fault."