SNAP

[squistion 2,538]

Per the NYT, The Trump administration told states to undo any steps to provide full food stamp benefits to low-income families, threatening financial penalties if the states do not comply. It was unclear how that would affect the program. 

Note: link is to subcriber content:

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/11/09/us/trump-news?smtyp=cur&smid=tw-nytimes

[Ron_Artest 2,225]

Trump threatening states trying to feed people.

Unbelievable this focking guy.

[squistion 2,538]

Just now, Ron_Artest said:

Trump threatening states trying to feed people.

Unbelievable this focking guy.

As The Real Tim asked in the Shutdown thread: How can anyone defend this? 

[weepaws 3,350]

Day nine America held captive by dictator trump.   Now threats, he’s the reason why we need the first and second amendment. 

[nobody 2,887]

Hopefully weepaws is denied his SNAP at least one more day.  I want to see if he knows what number comes after 9.

[weepaws 3,350]

1 hour ago, nobody said:

Hopefully weepaws is denied his SNAP at least one more day.  I want to see if he knows what number comes after 9.

 Nobody’s wife removes her teeth for the Plummer.  

[weepaws 3,350]

The end of day nine, Americans held captive by dictator trump 

[HellToupee 2,229]

Why does Keith Olbermann want to starve kids?

 

“8 DEMOCRATIC QUISLINGS CAVE. EXPEL THEM - AND SCHUMER. You whored yourself to Trump. Durbin, King, Cortez-Masto, Kaine, Shaheen, Rosen, Hassan, Fetterman. Get out”

 

[HellToupee 2,229]

5 hours ago, weepaws said:

The end of day nine, Americans held captive by dictator trump 

Right church wrong pee weepy. For cripes sakes get your mind right 

[Alias Detective 1,459]

No steak or lobster at the grocery this morning.  SNAP musta hit the pocketbook.

[Fnord 2,523]

2 hours ago, HellToupee said:

Why does Keith Olbermann want to starve kids?

 

“8 DEMOCRATIC QUISLINGS CAVE. EXPEL THEM - AND SCHUMER. You whored yourself to Trump. Durbin, King, Cortez-Masto, Kaine, Shaheen, Rosen, Hassan, Fetterman. Get out”

 

Can we stop pretending anyone cares what Keith Olbermann says? The only reason I know he's still alive is because of righties regurgitating his stupidity as a gotcha. He's a hack.

[supermike80 2,082]

40 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Can we stop pretending anyone cares what Keith Olbermann says? The only reason I know he's still alive is because of righties regurgitating his stupidity as a gotcha. He's a hack.

Add Stephen A Smith to that list.  Why I continue to see videos or clips of him talking about politics baffles me.  Shutup and do sports man 

[Fnord 2,523]

4 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

Add Stephen A Smith to that list.  Why I continue to see videos or clips of him talking about politics baffles me.  Shutup and do sports man 

I'd be fine if SAS fell into a bottomless chasm today. I don't GAF what he thinks about anything. He's just a shrill talking head to me. I don't think he believes half of what he says. He's built a lucrative career out of being a blowhard. So in that sense, I guess a move toward politics is understandable...

[The Real timschochet 7,461]

Even with the shutdown soon to be over (should be Wednesday officially) Trump is comtinuing to resist paying out SNAP. He now is asking the Supreme Court to overturn the appeals court decision from this morning. 

[squistion 2,538]

8 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Even with the shutdown soon to be over (should be Wednesday officially) Trump is comtinuing to resist paying out SNAP. He now is asking the Supreme Court to overturn the appeals court decision from this morning. 

What is wrong with this man? What is his motivation to do this? 

[supermike80 2,082]

28 minutes ago, squistion said:

What is wrong with this man? What is his motivation to do this? 

Its a legal battle.  And it makes sense.   The republican party has been focused on stopping these judges from places like Rhode Island overstepping their authority.  It's beyond SNAP.  It's about procedure and who can dictate what.

That's why

[The Real timschochet 7,461]

7 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

Its a legal battle.  And it makes sense.   The republican party has been focused on stopping these judges from places like Rhode Island overstepping their authority.  It's beyond SNAP.  It's about procedure and who can dictate what.

That's why

If this were actually the case Trump would announce that he is going to fight the decision in court for the purpose you stated, but that in the meantime he’s going to pay the SNAP benefits in full because he expects the shutdown to end later this week so it’s all a moot point anyhow. 
 
But he’s not doing that.,He’s not paying and over the weekend he threatened states that paid out any monies already with punishment if they continued to do so. That has nothing to do with the legal battle. Which is why you’re wrong. Trump is withholding these funds because he (a) mistakenly believes they mostly go to Democrats (he said this just the other day) and (b) he wants to punish Democrats and cause them pain. 

A big part of the reason that Trump continues to get away with this kind of crap is that people like you constantly attempt to offer rational excuses after the fact. 
 

 

[weepaws 3,350]

Day ten, Americans held hostage by dictator trump.  

[jonnyutah 544]

14 hours ago, weepaws said:

The end of day nine, Americans held captive by dictator trump 

The only surprising thing about these posts is that you dont sign them. 

[weepaws 3,350]

49 minutes ago, jonnyutah said:

The only surprising thing about these posts is that you dont sign them. 

Only surprising  thing about your post, is they keep getting stupider.  Indeed 

[weepaws 3,350]

Day ten is coming to a close, dictator trump holding Americans hostage.  

[Frozenbeernuts 2,332]

The only solution I see from liberals is to give more money to the government. Brainless.

Of course many of the same people blaming Trump for the shut down are also pissed that there was a compromise. Color me shocked at the hypocrisy from the left.

[jonnyutah 544]

2 hours ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

The only solution I see from liberals is to give more money to the government. Brainless.

Of course many of the same people blaming Trump for the shut down are also pissed that there was a compromise. Color me shocked at the hypocrisy from the left.

Subsidies toward the retail price are so stupid. If the government is paying 75% people dont care if the price goes up 30%. 

[weepaws 3,350]

Day eleven Americans being held captive by dictator trump 

[WhiteWonder 2,928]

On 11/9/2025 at 12:47 PM, squistion said:

As The Real Tim asked in the Shutdown thread: How can anyone defend this? 

so of course if you just look at the simple concept of hungry people needing food... for example if there was no government shutdown and Trump! just decided to end snap and threaten states who were trying to feed people, cant defend that. 

but it is not that cut and dry. When both sides cant work together to prevent a government shutdown, and part of the consequences of that shutdown include snap benefits, why would you want to allow states to still distribute those benefits?  It makes no sense to allow the other side to continue prolonging the shut down AND reduce the repercussions of it. Without debating which side was more at fault for the shutdown, obviously each side felt the other was more at fault. So logically you would want voters to feel the impact of it to some degree. 

politics is a game. most of them do not actually care about the people. you're a big time political hack so you believe your side does

[squistion 2,538]

1 minute ago, WhiteWonder said:

so of course if you just look at the simple concept of hungry people needing food... for example if there was no government shutdown and Trump! just decided to end snap and threaten states who were trying to feed people, cant defend that. 

but it is not that cut and dry. When both sides cant work together to prevent a government shutdown, and part of the consequences of that shutdown include snap benefits, why would you want to allow states to still distribute those benefits?  It makes no sense to allow the other side to continue prolonging the shut down AND reduce the repercussions of it. Without debating which side was more at fault for the shutdown, obviously each side felt the other was more at fault. So logically you would want voters to feel the impact of it to some degree. 

politics is a game. most of them do not actually care about the people. you're a big time political hack so you believe your side does

[The Real timschochet 7,461]

2 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said:

so of course if you just look at the simple concept of hungry people needing food... for example if there was no government shutdown and Trump! just decided to end snap and threaten states who were trying to feed people, cant defend that. 

but it is not that cut and dry. When both sides cant work together to prevent a government shutdown, and part of the consequences of that shutdown include snap benefits, why would you allow states to continue distributing benefits?  It makes no sense to allow the other side to continue prolonging the shut down AND reduce the repercussions of it. Without debating which side was more at fault for the shutdown, obviously each side felt the other was more at fault. So logically you would want voters to feel the impact of it to some degree. 

politics is a game. most of them do not actually care about the people  you're a big time political hack so you believe your side does

So much wrong with this. But I’ll limit my response to the two bolded areas: 

1. Because those “benefits” are necessary to feed people so it’s a moral question. 

2. Wrong. Most politicians, Republican and Democrat alike, do care. Donald Trump does not. 

[nobody 2,887]

What's weird to me is that the stimulus package from the great recession put 20 million additional people on SNAP.  And they've just been there ever since.

https://share.google/images/q11vLBZuiHx246vXV

Was the expectation that these people would be on government assistance for the rest of their lives?  We created a whole new generation of welfare recipients that were fine before the housing crisis, but now apparently are going to forever be poverty stricken and starve without food stamps?  

If you don't force these people off the program, they'll never get off the program.

[Fnord 2,523]

10 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said:

so of course if you just look at the simple concept of hungry people needing food... for example if there was no government shutdown and Trump! just decided to end snap and threaten states who were trying to feed people, cant defend that. 

but it is not that cut and dry. When both sides cant work together to prevent a government shutdown, and part of the consequences of that shutdown include snap benefits, why would you want to allow states to still distribute those benefits?  It makes no sense to allow the other side to continue prolonging the shut down AND reduce the repercussions of it. Without debating which side was more at fault for the shutdown, obviously each side felt the other was more at fault. So logically you would want voters to feel the impact of it to some degree. 

politics is a game. most of them do not actually care about the people. you're a big time political hack so you believe your side does

IIRC in prior shut downs, SNAP and EBT was not disrupted. Too busy to verify ATM.

[WhiteWonder 2,928]

10 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

So much wrong with this. But I’ll limit my response to the two bolded areas: 

1. Because those “benefits” are necessary to feed people so it’s a moral question. 

2. Wrong. Most politicians, Republican and Democrat alike, do care. Donald Trump does not. 

1. SNAP requires federal funding. That funding lapses during a government shutdown. If it's only the moral issue you care about, then SNAP needs to be reshaped a bit? State funding?   Saying "so much is wrong with this" is wrong. I already addressed the basic moral issue. The rest of my comment was in regards to the government shutdown game being played by both sides. 

 

2. Continue to live in la la land if you wish. We already know you believe what your media tells you, hook line and sinker. You are not much of a free thinker (rhyme not intended). At the end of the day, politicians care more about their own pockets, their potential re election if applicable, their donors, their party...  way more than they actually care about the people. 

[WhiteWonder 2,928]

3 minutes ago, Fnord said:

IIRC in prior shut downs, SNAP and EBT was not disrupted. Too busy to verify ATM.

I'm not sure. SNAP is set up so that a short government shutdown should not impact benefits... i believe because the usda accounts for the funding a month prior. That is a total guess on my part. However a longer shutdown should have the same result as those benefits are still federally funded. Perhaps it's because prior shutdowns were not as long?  There was a lengthy shutdown in the mid 90's. I do not know how food stamp programs worked back then. 

[The Real timschochet 7,461]

5 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said:

1. SNAP requires federal funding. That funding lapses during a government shutdown. If it's only the moral issue you care about, then SNAP needs to be reshaped a bit? State funding?   Saying "so much is wrong with this" is wrong. I already addressed the basic moral issue. The rest of my comment was in regards to the government shutdown game being played by both sides. 

 

 

The shock and disgust that @squistion and I and many other people have expressed is over how Trump has gone out of his way to fight against the SNAP payments being released. If he had just gone along with the court decision then would have been released long since, despite the shutdown. But he has fought this every step of the way, even now, appealed every decision, even threatened states that paid out the funds, and publicly stated he is doing this to punish Democrats. 
 

In other words you’re wrong that “SNAP funding lapses during a shutdown.” It never has. There are emergency funds to prevent it from doing so. Trump has deliberately made the decision not to use those funds. The courts so far have unanimously ruled that he has to. He’s still fighting it. This is on Donald Trump. 

[supermike80 2,082]

25 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said:

1. SNAP requires federal funding. That funding lapses during a government shutdown. If it's only the moral issue you care about, then SNAP needs to be reshaped a bit? State funding?   Saying "so much is wrong with this" is wrong. I already addressed the basic moral issue. The rest of my comment was in regards to the government shutdown game being played by both sides. 

 

2. Continue to live in la la land if you wish. We already know you believe what your media tells you, hook line and sinker. You are not much of a free thinker (rhyme not intended). At the end of the day, politicians care more about their own pockets, their potential re election if applicable, their donors, their party...  way more than they actually care about the people. 

There's a fallacy that the left operates under.  That of...Democrats care about people, republicans don't.   That's false and has always been false.  both parties care about 2 things...Votes and power.  That's it.

[The Real timschochet 7,461]

Just now, supermike80 said:

There's a fallacy that the left operates under.  That of...Democrats care about people, republicans don't.   That's false and has always been false.  both parties care about 2 things...Votes and power.  That's it.

My argument is that politicians from both parties for the most part care about people. I don’t believe that Democrats care more than Republicans. 

[supermike80 2,082]

Funny thing is..If the democrats had just voted for the CR< the same CR they voted for in the past.  None of this would have had to happen.   So this is entirely on the democrats for causing this stress on the american people.   I enjoy the left trying so hard to blame Trump, when in fact, they could have stopped this before it ever got started.