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Just now, The Real timschochet said:

Another lie. 

YOU said it.  Not me.  All you do is say it's a lie but the words are right there.  You never dispute the words.   You've never even said I post them out of context.  You simply can't justify what you said, which is why not one person defended you back then, and at least 20 condemned you for it.  But you have never understood why anyone takes issue with your defense of a 40 year old man drugging and raping a 13 year old.  

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2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Another lie. 

You DIDN'T call her promiscuous?  I posted the quote.  

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2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Another lie. 

Is that not a quote from you saying she was a promiscuous 13 year old?  If it isn't, you should say it's not a quote.

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The same group of people who think Trump Derangement Syndrome is real and not a "made up fake term" are the ones who deny the validity of the term "food desert," coined 30 years ago and thorougly noted on the website of the USDA, which falls under the umbrella of RFK Jr. and Trump.

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Just now, nobody said:

Is that not a quote from you saying she was a promiscuous 13 year old?  If it isn't, you should say it's not a quote.

The best thing is, when he says something like "that's a lie" to something that is clearly a FACT, he just kills his own credibility.   I mean, how can he dispute that he said the word promiscuous unless his stance is that I made up the quote?   So all he's doing is making himself look like more of a liar than we all already know he is.

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16 minutes ago, Strike said:

Yeah, you seem to be having the same trouble understanding what you wrote as you did then.  Which is why I know your apologies at the time were hollow.  I mean, after you wrote the following:

Someone posted:

Gee I wonder what the word is that the language filter changed to ########.  🤔

And your response to that person was:

You just have ZERO self awareness.  The fact that you don't think the above quotes indicate your acceptance of child rape says a lot about you.  And after all these years you still don't see it.  It's unbelievable that @squistion and @MDC continue to defend you.  Makes me wonder about them too.......

I didn’t defend what Tim said; it’s gross and I 100% disagree with it. I asked you for a link to Tim saying HE is a pedophile, i.e. he has sexual relations with minors. 

Your outrageous lie is a clear violation of Geek Club rules and you should delete yourself immediately, kuntface. :wave: 

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7 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:
8 minutes ago, jonnyutah said:

I forgot he called her promiscuous too.

Oh man.

Another lie. 

"Yes, I wrote that. It was not written well, and I apologized for it several times."

Sorry tim. You may have had the original post nuked, but it is quoted in several places that you couldnt get rid of. 

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In case anybody was still on the fence about tim being a liar. 

Good god. I cant even believe how devastating to this guys reputation this last 20 minutes has been.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, MDC said:

I didn’t defend what Tim said; it’s gross and I 100% disagree with it. I asked you for a link to Tim saying HE is a pedophile, i.e. he has sexual relations with minors. 

Your outrageous lie is a clear violation of Geek Club rules and you should delete yourself immediately, kuntface. :wave: 

Wait, so I have to provide a link to Tim saying he has sex with minors before you'll believe he's a pedo?  The quotes above aren't adequate evidence?  Wow.

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7 minutes ago, FrancieFootball said:

The same group of people who think Trump Derangement Syndrome is real and not a "made up fake term" are the ones who deny the validity of the term "food desert," coined 30 years ago and thorougly noted on the website of the USDA, which falls under the umbrella of RFK Jr. and Trump.

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Why is this lady still trying to convince people being a mile away from a grocery store means you have no access to healthy food?

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4 minutes ago, nobody said:

Is that not a quote from you saying she was a promiscuous 13 year old?  If it isn't, you should say it's not a quote.

No @jonnyutah is lying when he says he “forgot” about it. He’s mentioned it before. 
 

I wrote it at the time. It was an awful, stupid thing to write. I’ve apologized for it. i believe now, and believed then, that it should be a crime for an adult to have sex with a minor. However if the sex is willing then I don’t regard it as necessarily rape, or necessarily pedophilia (though it can be either depending on the age of the minor.) 

I defended Polanski at the time because I believed he had willing sex with a girl whom he believed to be older. I still thought it was an awful act but I didn’t think he deserved to go to prison for it. I’ve since learned that he gave her drugs against her will. That makes it rape. I’ve also since decided that, no matter how old one looks, 13 is still too young and it’s still a serious crime. So I’ve changed my mind on that. And I’ve apologized for what I wrote numerous times. That’s never been enough for @Strike and a few others here: They hound me with it, call me a pedophile, bring it up whenever they are losing a political argument. It gets boring after awhile. 
 

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1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

No @jonnyutah is lying when he says he “forgot” about it. He’s mentioned it before. 
 

I wrote it at the time. It was an awful, stupid thing to write. I’ve apologized for it. i believe now, and believed then, that it should be a crime for an adult to have sex with a minor. However if the sex is willing then I don’t regard it as necessarily rape, or necessarily pedophilia (though it can be either depending on the age of the minor.) 

I defended Polanski at the time because I believed he had willing sex with a girl whom he believed to be older. I still thought it was an awful act but I didn’t think he deserved to go to prison for it. I’ve since learned that he gave her drugs against her will. That makes it rape. I’ve also since decided that, no matter how old one looks, 13 is still too young and it’s still a serious crime. So I’ve changed my mind on that. And I’ve apologized for what I wrote numerous times. That’s never been enough for @Strike and a few others here: They hound me with it, call me a pedophile, bring it up whenever they are losing a political argument. It gets boring after awhile. 
 

You have NEVER said this.  But I want you to be clear - You're admitting that AT THAT TIME you believed it was ok for a man to have sex with a 13 year old if she looked older and/or was promiscuous?  I want you on record admitting that so you can't deny it later.   

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3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

No @jonnyutah is lying when he says he “forgot” about it. He’s mentioned it before. 
 

I wrote it at the time. It was an awful, stupid thing to write. I’ve apologized for it. i believe now, and believed then, that it should be a crime for an adult to have sex with a minor. However if the sex is willing then I don’t regard it as necessarily rape, or necessarily pedophilia (though it can be either depending on the age of the minor.) 

 

Tim, an adult having sex with a minor is by legal definition rape.  So this is just like illegal immigration to you apparently.  It's a law you don't believe in so people should be free to ignore.

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Just now, Strike said:

You have NEVER said this.  But I want you to be clear - You're admitting that AT THAT TIME you believed it was ok for a man to have sex with a 13 year old if she looked older and/or was promiscuous?  I want you on record admitting that so you can't deny it later.   

Not OK. Never OK, and I didn’t think so at the time. However I also didn’t think it was worthy of a prison sentence. Now I do, I’ve changed my mind about that. If you think my earlier position was immoral so be it. 

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Just now, Strike said:

Tim, an adult having sex with a minor is by legal definition rape.  So this is just like illegal immigration to you apparently.  It's a law you don't believe in so people should be free to ignore.

1. A man jumps out of the bushes, attacks an old lady, and rapes her. 
 

2. A 22 year old man has willing sex with his 17 year old girlfriend. 
 

Are these the same crime in your eyes? Should there be no difference in punishment? 

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1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

Not OK. Never OK, and I didn’t think so at the time. However I also didn’t think it was worthy of a prison sentence. Now I do, I’ve changed my mind about that. If you think my earlier position was immoral so be it. 

Full Stop.  Above you said 

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I’ve also since decided that, no matter how old one looks, 13 is still too young and it’s still a serious crime. So I’ve changed my mind on that.

This indicates that at the time of the FBG's thread you thought it was ok for an adult to have sex with a 13 year old.  I want you to admit that is the case.  Otherwise, the post you just posted suggesting your thinking has evolved is just bullsh*t.  If you wonder why something is never good enough for me this is it.  You post platitudes and fake apologies and then go back to your original stances.  

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1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

1. A man jumps out of the bushes, attacks an old lady, and rapes her. 
 

2. A 22 year old man has willing sex with his 17 year old girlfriend. 
 

Are these the same crime in your eyes? Should there be no difference in punishment? 

You MIGHT have had a case if you'd said 18/19 year old.   A 22 year old should not be having sex with a 17 year old.  Regardless, it would still be rape even if I thought it was acceptable as I would with a 19 year old.  Again, you want to be able to define the laws.  People should be allowed to violate any law Tim doesn't think is just.  Sorry, that's not how civilized society works.

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8 minutes ago, Strike said:

Full Stop.  Above you said 

This indicates that at the time of the FBG's thread you thought it was ok for an adult to have sex with a 13 year old.  I want you to admit that is the case.  Otherwise, the post you just posted suggesting your thinking has evolved is just bullsh*t.  If you wonder why something is never good enough for me this is it.  You post platitudes and fake apologies and then go back to your original stances.  

No. At the time I argued that it should not be a serious crime to have sex with a 13 year old, I never wrote that it was OK and I’m not going to admit to that now because I didn’t think so at the time. I didn’t think it was a serious crime worthy of prison. Now I do. I really don’t care if it’s good enough for you or not, I wrote that to explain your actions not mine. 

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4 minutes ago, Strike said:

You MIGHT have had a case if you'd said 18/19 year old.   A 22 year old should not be having sex with a 17 year old.  Regardless, it would still be rape even if I thought it was acceptable as I would with a 19 year old.  Again, you want to be able to define the laws.  People should be allowed to violate any law Tim doesn't think is just.  Sorry, that's not how civilized society works.

I never asked you about law, I asked if it was the same crime IN YOUR EYES and if the punishment should in your opinion be the same? 

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8 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

1. A man jumps out of the bushes, attacks an old lady, and rapes her. 
 

2. A 22 year old man has willing sex with his 17 year old girlfriend. 
 

Are these the same crime in your eyes? Should there be no difference in punishment? 

Strangely you used the bolded above example rather than saying a 43 year old and a 13 year old.

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1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

No. At the time I argued that it should not be a serious crime to have sex with a 14 year old, I never wrote that it was OK and I’m not going to admit to that now because I didn’t think so at the time. I didn’t think it was a serious crime worthy of prison. Now I do. I really don’t care if it’s good enough for you or not, I wrote that to explain your actions not mine. 

And this is why your "apologies" and protests about my bringing this up again and again are never good enough for me.  You STILL don't understand what your posted was wrong, and it's because you STILL believe it.  If you don't understand what the following quote actually means, and I think you do, I'm not going to continue debating it with you.  I will continue my campaign to make sure everyone else understands your pedophilia tendencies though.  Tim's mantra:

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His "crime" was to have sex with a promiscuous 13 year old with the body of a 20 year old

 

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Just now, jonnyutah said:

Strangely you used the bolded above example rather than saying a 43 year old and a 13 year old.

Because I’ve changed my mind about that and because I was responding to @strike’s absolutist argument. 

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2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I never asked you about law, I asked if it was the same crime IN YOUR EYES and if the punishment should in your opinion be the same? 

Law matters Tim.  I'm sorry you think the world revolves around you and you get to decide what laws people should follow or not follow but for those of us who aren't the narcissistic, lying pieces of dung that you are laws actually do matter.

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1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

Because I’ve changed my mind about that and because I was responding to @strike’s absolutist argument. 

If you've changed your mind then you're admitting you thought it was ok for a 43 year old to have sex with a 13 year old at the time.  You can't have it both ways.

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2 minutes ago, Strike said:

If you've changed your mind then you're admitting you thought it was ok for a 43 year old to have sex with a 13 year old at the time.  You can't have it both ways.

He hasnt changed his mind. He was probably like 50 years old when he said that. 

If he thought a 43 year old raping a 13 year old was ok then, he thinks it now. 

 

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Just now, jonnyutah said:

He hasnt changed his mind. He was probably like 50 years old when he said that. 

If he thought a 43 year old raping a 13 year old was ok then, he thinks it now. 

 

Of course he does.  There's a reason we explored castration for pedos at one time, and some states allow pedos to be indefinitely held even after their prison sentences are up.  We've come to understand that in many cases a pedo can't suppress their urges.  Tim may be one of those types.

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No chance of starvation in my area.  Many local restaurants are providing meals as well as a lot of folks prepaying for food,at grocery stores.  Granted, lobster and filet ain’t on the menus but I bet there is plenty to sustain folks.

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40 minutes ago, Strike said:

Wait, so I have to provide a link to Tim saying he has sex with minors before you'll believe he's a pedo?  The quotes above aren't adequate evidence?  Wow.

Yes jackass, when you call someone a pedophile you’re generally expected to back that up.

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2 minutes ago, MDC said:

Yes jackass, when you call someone a pedophile you’re generally expected to back that up.

I did back it up :dunno:

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2 minutes ago, MDC said:

Yes jackass, when you call someone a pedophile you’re generally expected to back that up.

🐷 proven. 

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4 minutes ago, MDC said:

Yes jackass, when you call someone a pedophile you’re generally expected to back that up.

You inappropriately touched me when I was 8 

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1 minute ago, Strike said:

I did back it up :dunno:

A pedophile is someone who sleeps with kids, not someone who has distasteful opinions about a guy who slept with a kid decades ago. 

🤦‍♂️ 

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2 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

You inappropriately touched me when I was 8 

I’m not into black kids. :ninja: 

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For the record I don’t think Tim @The Real timschochet is a pedo or anywhere near that. I know he’s a father of at least 1 girl and somehow, most likely because he’s a blowhard, he backed himself into a corner and stubbornly took too long to correct his comments. He pontificates on anything and everything but at the end of the day I don’t think he’s a bad guy. 

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6 minutes ago, MDC said:

I’m not into black kids. :ninja: 

White ? Asian? Let’s get you on record about what kids you are into 

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1 minute ago, HellToupee said:

White ? Asian? Let’s get you on record about what kids you are into 

No kids. But even if I was, I wouldn’t be into Webster. :ninja: 

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10 minutes ago, MDC said:

A pedophile is someone who sleeps with kids, not someone who has distasteful opinions about a guy who slept with a kid decades ago. 

🤦‍♂️ 

Wrong.  You don't have to action it to be a pedo:

https://www.msdmanuals.com/home/mental-health-disorders/paraphilias-and-paraphilic-disorders/pedophilic-disorder

You're just redefining words to suit you, just like those who say there are 47 million "starving" Americans.

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