nobody 2,910 Posted 5 hours ago Why is everyone so concerned about this chick? She'll probably get an honorary doctorate out of the whole ordeal. Dr Lucia! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,684 Posted 5 hours ago 17 minutes ago, nobody said: Why is everyone so concerned about this chick? It’s helps to fulfill the daily prescription of necessary TD that board lefties are fueled on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 2,348 Posted 4 hours ago 47 minutes ago, jerryskids said: They also can't fly without risk of being detained and/or deported. But at least you admit that she knew she was an illegal alien. I had heard she was well aware of the deportation order, but can't find the link. All of the MSM links are about the poor 19 year old going to visit her family for Thanksgiving. They don't seem to be reporting on why a 7 year old was given a deportation order by the Biden admin. This is an example of the feminization of our legal system. We are slowly transitioning from the rule of law to whatever touchy/feely decision meets the revolution's cause du jour. But you think a redneck with a fake gallows is a bigger threat to our democracy. Oh come on skids. You read one crackpot article about feminization and start repeating it. First I'm not admitted she knew she was illegal, I'm assuming. The parents claim that they didn't know. I don't know how you don't know. I don't know why she would fly if she knew, but whatever. The point that you miss is that these are not the type of people who should want removed from our country. They are actually the type of people we want in this country. And yes, it is without question that she is less of a threat to our democracy than a Jan 6er. Happy to debate you on this all day. Hilarious that you tried to compare the two. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,350 Posted 4 hours ago 33 minutes ago, jerryskids said: They also can't fly without risk of being detained and/or deported. But at least you admit that she knew she was an illegal alien. I had heard she was well aware of the deportation order, but can't find the link. All of the MSM links are about the poor 19 year old going to visit her family for Thanksgiving. They don't seem to be reporting on why a 7 year old was given a deportation order by the Biden admin. This is an example of the feminization of our legal system. We are slowly transitioning from the rule of law to whatever touchy/feely decision meets the revolution's cause du jour. But you think a redneck with a fake gallows is a bigger threat to our democracy. Obama, not Biden. I think it’s a pretty safe bet the deportation wasn’t because of something a 7 year old did…So at the time a deportation order made sense if they were trying to get the whole family out. But at this point she’s an adult and seems to be likely to be a contributor to society. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 2,107 Posted 4 hours ago 2 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Obama, not Biden. I think it’s a pretty safe bet the deportation wasn’t because of something a 7 year old did…So at the time a deportation order made sense if they were trying to get the whole family out. But at this point she’s an adult and seems to be likely to be a contributor to society. Meh...Don't care. If she's that great, let her contribute to her home country, that appears to need it more. I would rather an American born had her spot. These little one off stories are funny. Are pro removal of illegals supposed to say "Holy cow!!! Stop deporting now!" because of this? Nope. Keep shipping them out. Sometimes dolphins get caught in the tuna nets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,350 Posted 4 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Oh come on skids. You read one crackpot article about feminization and start repeating it. First I'm not admitted she knew she was illegal, I'm assuming. The parents claim that they didn't know. I don't know how you don't know. I don't know why she would fly if she knew, but whatever. The point that you miss is that these are not the type of people who should want removed from our country. They are actually the type of people we want in this country. And yes, it is without question that she is less of a threat to our democracy than a Jan 6er. Happy to debate you on this all day. Hilarious that you tried to compare the two. They know she (and almost guaranteed, the parents as well) is illegal. They’re claiming they didn’t know she had a deportation order. I would assume the family has one as well if she does. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,350 Posted 4 hours ago Just now, supermike80 said: Meh...Don't care. If she's that great, let her contribute to her home country, that appears to need it more. I would rather an American born had her spot. These little one off stories are funny. Are pro removal of illegals supposed to say "Holy cow!!! Stop deporting now!" because of this? Nope. Keep shipping them out. Sometimes dolphins get caught in the tuna nets. And you think privilege doesn’t exist, correct? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 2,107 Posted 4 hours ago Just now, TimHauck said: And you think privilege doesn’t exist, correct? Sorry what? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,609 Posted 4 hours ago This is even worse than I thought. From NYT subscriber content: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/30/us/politics/college-student-deported-thanksgiving-texas.html?campaign_id=60&emc=edit_na_20251201&instance_id=167300&nl=breaking-news&regi_id=125207237&segment_id=211622&user_id=14502a7228c5a9b835a15627514bfe28 College Student Is Deported During Trip Home for Thanksgiving [...] Ms. López’s lawyer, Todd Pomerleau, described an opaque process for obtaining information about her case, including the grounds for her deportation. He said she had been deported in violation of a court order that a federal judge signed on Nov. 21 that said Ms. López could not be removed from the United States while her case was pending. [...] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,350 Posted 4 hours ago 3 minutes ago, supermike80 said: Sorry what? “Rather an American born have her spot” = privilege Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 2,107 Posted 4 hours ago Just now, TimHauck said: “Rather an American born have her spot” = privilege LOL Ok Man. Yeah you go me. I would prefer an American born person get access to American things over foreign born people who aren't here legally. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,944 Posted 4 hours ago There were no Mexicans at the first thanksgiving. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 7,142 Posted 4 hours ago 44 minutes ago, TimHauck said: They know she (and almost guaranteed, the parents as well) is illegal. They’re claiming they didn’t know she had a deportation order. I would assume the family has one as well if she does. Who is "they"? And yes, St. Barack the Omniscient, not Biden, thanks for the correction. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,350 Posted 4 hours ago Just now, jerryskids said: Who is "they"? And yes, St. Barack the Omniscient, not Biden, thanks for the correction. Her parents Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,609 Posted 3 hours ago Quote I would rather an American born had her spot. Any proof that she cost an American born the spot at this college? You don't usually hear that claim about students from foreign countries who are accepted at most major univesities. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,350 Posted 3 hours ago Article in local paper. Detained on a Thursday, was already deported by the time her lawyer could reach her on Monday, the lawyer claims ICE “impeded his attempts to communicate with her” until after she was already deported. https://www.statesman.com/news/local/article/ice-deports-austin-student-honduras-21212682.php 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrancieFootball 232 Posted 3 hours ago Trump deports this instead of deporting the Afghani who goes on to shoot two National Guardsmen. Once again, MAGA doesn't like educated women. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,910 Posted 3 hours ago 1 hour ago, TimHauck said: “Rather an American born have her spot” = privilege Yes. People not here legally shouldn't enjoy the same privileges as people who are here legally. Not sure why you keep posting this like it matters. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 2,197 Posted 2 hours ago 58 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Article in local paper. Detained on a Thursday, was already deported by the time her lawyer could reach her on Monday, the lawyer claims ICE “impeded his attempts to communicate with her” until after she was already deported. https://www.statesman.com/news/local/article/ice-deports-austin-student-honduras-21212682.php She hired a crappy attorney. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Fantasy 86 Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, TimHauck said: “Rather an American born have her spot” = privilege Yes , the privilege of being a LEGAL citizen 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 2,348 Posted 2 hours ago It's important point. We should all be grateful that we're born in the US as it comes with much privilege. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,949 Posted 2 hours ago 5 hours ago, Ron_Artest said: Illegals can't get Pell grants. Try again dummy. il·le·gal /i(l)ˈlēɡ(ə)l,əˈlēɡ(ə)l/ adjective contrary to or forbidden by law, especially criminal law. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,609 Posted 2 hours ago 17 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: It's important point. We should all be grateful that we're born in the US as it comes with much privilege. It does, although Trump wants to end birthright citizenship and some folks in this forum agree with that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,910 Posted 2 hours ago The wokies want everyone to stop and reflect on how good we have it being born in the US. I have that right? And, further, is it the wokie perspective that HauckTuah's continued assertion that being a US citizen = privilege was to remind everyone to pause and reflect on how great being a US citizen is? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,350 Posted 1 hour ago 44 minutes ago, nobody said: The wokies want everyone to stop and reflect on how good we have it being born in the US. I have that right? And, further, is it the wokie perspective that HauckTuah's continued assertion that being a US citizen = privilege was to remind everyone to pause and reflect on how great being a US citizen is? I’m saying the common refrain when discussing privilege in other threads is something to the effect of that people need to “pull themselves up by their bootstraps” or whatever. But in cases like this, they have no opportunity to do that, the privilege is based solely on where they happened to be born. And again, I get deporting people that intentionally entered illegally. And I get deporting minor children if their parents are also illegal. But deporting an adult who’s been here for over a decade and was brought here by her parents at 7 years old seems a bit much. Assuming she has no criminal record of course, I know that is not confirmed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 2,348 Posted 1 hour ago 7 minutes ago, TimHauck said: I’m saying the common refrain when discussing privilege in other threads is something to the effect of that people need to “pull themselves up by their bootstraps” or whatever. But in cases like this, they have no opportunity to do that, the privilege is based solely on where they happened to be born. And again, I get deporting people that intentionally entered illegally. And I get deporting minor children if their parents are also illegal. But deporting an adult who’s been here for over a decade and was brought here by her parents at 7 years old seems a bit much. Assuming she has no criminal record of course, I know that is not confirmed. It's not gonna work. There is no empathy from the Maga crowd. They are truly a bunch of miserable ass holes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,960 Posted 1 hour ago 6 hours ago, TimHauck said: It’s ironic that the “deport all illegals” crowd also thinks privilege doesn’t exist. Doesn’t get much more privileged than having more rights simply based on where you were born. A kid that was brought here by someone else when she was 7 years old didn’t do anything wrong in coming here. nope. she didn't. unfortunately her parents did. it's a shame but it doesn't make it any less true Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,960 Posted 1 hour ago 11 minutes ago, TimHauck said: I’m saying the common refrain when discussing privilege in other threads is something to the effect of that people need to “pull themselves up by their bootstraps” or whatever. But in cases like this, they have no opportunity to do that, the privilege is based solely on where they happened to be born. And again, I get deporting people that intentionally entered illegally. And I get deporting minor children if their parents are also illegal. But deporting an adult who’s been here for over a decade and was brought here by her parents at 7 years old seems a bit much. Assuming she has no criminal record of course, I know that is not confirmed. one doesn't really have anything to do with the other. it's entirely possible to feel that people should take accountability and "pull themselves up by their bootstraps", as it pertains to our own citizens, and also feel that people should follow the legal processes. Im not necessarily going to advocate for specifically deporting people like the one in this story, but the notion that she CANT be deported because she was 7 and not responsible for what her parents did in bringing her here is silly. Blame the parents. And yes, there is obviously some privilege for where people are born. Welcome to the world. Everyone, in every country can "pull themselves up by their bootstraps" as you say. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,960 Posted 1 hour ago 2 hours ago, squistion said: Any proof that she cost an American born the spot at this college? You don't usually hear that claim about students from foreign countries who are accepted at most major univesities. any proof that she didn't? logic would say she did, as most universities accept a certain number of students each year, not everyone who applies. It's almost like saying a trans wouldn't be taking a roster spot on the girls basketball team from a cisgender female Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,350 Posted 55 minutes ago 7 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said: one doesn't really have anything to do with the other. it's entirely possible to feel that people should take accountability and "pull themselves up by their bootstraps", as it pertains to our own citizens, and also feel that people should follow the legal processes. Im not necessarily going to advocate for specifically deporting people like the one in this story, but the notion that she CANT be deported because she was 7 and not responsible for what her parents did in bringing her here is silly. Blame the parents. And yes, there is obviously some privilege for where people are born. Welcome to the world. Everyone, in every country can "pull themselves up by their bootstraps" as you say. And I didn’t say she “can’t” be deported. The government may not have done anything wrong if she had a valid order of removal. Although the lawyer does claim they did other things wrong like “impeding” him from speaking with her or allegedly not showing her the deportation order when she was detained. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,910 Posted 55 minutes ago 27 minutes ago, TimHauck said: I’m saying the common refrain when discussing privilege in other threads is something to the effect of that people need to “pull themselves up by their bootstraps” or whatever. But in cases like this, they have no opportunity to do that, the privilege is based solely on where they happened to be born. And again, I get deporting people that intentionally entered illegally. And I get deporting minor children if their parents are also illegal. But deporting an adult who’s been here for over a decade and was brought here by her parents at 7 years old seems a bit much. Assuming she has no criminal record of course, I know that is not confirmed. 19 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: It's not gonna work. There is no empathy from the Maga crowd. They are truly a bunch of miserable ass holes. Want the country run based on being nice. Why wokies always gotta have opinions? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,960 Posted 53 minutes ago 1 minute ago, TimHauck said: And I didn’t say she “can’t” be deported. The government may not have done anything wrong if she had a valid order of removal. Although the lawyer does claim they did other things wrong like “impeding” him from speaking with her or allegedly not showing her the deportation order when she was detained. sorry, I should have said SHOULDNT, as it sounds like you are insinuating that she shouldn't be deported because she was brought here at the age of 7 and had no control over that. Hence why I said blame the parents. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,910 Posted 51 minutes ago I'd have to personally interview her to know if she should stay. But I bet she's like all the rest and still reps for the country they don't want to live in. And she's doing the US more good by getting deported. We need all those that would enter illegally to know ICE will pull you right off out of class and send you back so best not even cross over unless you're willing to follow the law. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,350 Posted 18 minutes ago 32 minutes ago, nobody said: I'd have to personally interview her to know if she should stay. But I bet she's like all the rest and still reps for the country they don't want to live in. And she's doing the US more good by getting deported. We need all those that would enter illegally to know ICE will pull you right off out of class and send you back so best not even cross over unless you're willing to follow the law. True, better deport all those filthy third generation Italians still repping their country as well 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites