Spielberg on UFOs

[Frozenbeernuts 2,427]

2 minutes ago, Nomad99 said:

I don't think evolution from single cell organism to advanced technology civilization is going to make a difference......you are still talking millions of years. The chances a highly advance civilization venturing into interstellar space and encountering another intelligent civilization that exists in the same time line....not even space-faring, are remote. I think there have been, are & will be, many intelligent civilizations out there....I just don't think we will ever cross paths before our time line ends.

You are making a lot of assumptions here. Like I said we have a very limited perspective.

[Mr Fantasy 157]

My own personal belief is I don’t think we are dealing with interstellar travel. But that’s just the theory I think is going on

[Nomad99 842]

42 minutes ago, Mr Fantasy said:

My own personal belief is I don’t think we are dealing with interstellar travel. But that’s just the theory I think is going on

Like you believe they are much closer?

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On 12/16/2025 at 1:21 PM, cmh6476 said:

why would an alien come to KC?

Arthur Bryant's, Jack Stacks, Strouds. 

[The Real timschochet 7,558]

The aliens are out there but won’t make themselves known to us until we conquer the technology of light speed. Thats part of the Prime Directive. 

[Nomad99 842]

50 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

You are making a lot of assumptions here. Like I said we have a very limited perspective.

Well then, let's go on chance alone. I think we can agree that intelligent life developing, not just life....is not "common". Life surviving for 10's of millions of years & becoming intelligent enough for advanced space travel even less "common". I would consider life on this earth as "lucky" to have survived all of the catastrophic events that have befallen it up to this point. Barring all that....you still have to have 2 grains of sand from 2 different beaches on different sides of the solar system, wash up next to each other......I'm betting the under. The universe, given it's size, would need to be pretty well populated with civilizations existing at the same time as us for that to happen. Possible? Yes......nothing in the existence of anything could be more epic than 2 alien civilizations meeting......I just think the deck is stacked against it.

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7 hours ago, Nomad99 said:

Well then, let's go on chance alone. I think we can agree that intelligent life developing, not just life....is not "common". Life surviving for 10's of millions of years & becoming intelligent enough for advanced space travel even less "common". I would consider life on this earth as "lucky" to have survived all of the catastrophic events that have befallen it up to this point. Barring all that....you still have to have 2 grains of sand from 2 different beaches on different sides of the solar system, wash up next to each other......I'm betting the under. The universe, given it's size, would need to be pretty well populated with civilizations existing at the same time as us for that to happen. Possible? Yes......nothing in the existence of anything could be more epic than 2 alien civilizations meeting......I just think the deck is stacked against it.

Still too many assumptions here. We don't know how or why life grows and becomes sentient on a planet. We don't even know where consciousness comes from. It's hard to make many accurate assumptions about how the universe really works when we are still using hydrocarbons as the majority of our fuel source.

We are not that advanced technologically. It only seems like we are because of how much more advanced than other species on this planet we are.

Maybe a super advanced civilization could find us by using methods other than just happenstance.

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9 hours ago, Mr Fantasy said:

My own personal belief is I don’t think we are dealing with interstellar travel. But that’s just the theory I think is going on

No doubt that aliens desire to land on Uranus.

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What does the crew of the Starship Enterprise have in common with toilet paper?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

They both scour Uranus for Klingons.

 

Please tip your bartender while I show myself out.

[GobbleDog 1,018]

I'm with Nomad in thinking it's statistically improbable and borderline impossible for reasons stated. 

Regardless, it's interesting to hear scientists say if they ever did find an alien, they wouldn't care much about its eyes, skin, or physical features. What they really want is take a piece, put it under a microscope and see is it's cells - the only known way for life to exist... nucleus, mitochondria, etc.  Is that the only universal model for life or is there something different out there? 

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5 hours ago, GobbleDog said:

I'm with Nomad in thinking it's statistically improbable and borderline impossible for reasons stated. 

Regardless, it's interesting to hear scientists say if they ever did find an alien, they wouldn't care much about its eyes, skin, or physical features. What they really want is take a piece, put it under a microscope and see is it's cells - the only known way for life to exist... nucleus, mitochondria, etc.  Is that the only universal model for life or is there something different out there? 

I think it's interesting that you are so sure the only way for a super advanced civilization to find us is through a random encounter.

Do you not see how incredibly limited that perspective is? You are narrowing the ways one civ can find another to one single way, and that's final.

We breath through perceived impossibilities constantly. Which should tell us we should always keep a very open mind as to what is possible.

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3 hours ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

I think it's interesting that you are so sure the only way for a super advanced civilization to find us is through a random encounter.

Do you not see how incredibly limited that perspective is? You are narrowing the ways one civ can find another to one single way, and that's final.

We breath through perceived impossibilities constantly. Which should tell us we should always keep a very open mind as to what is possible.

And you are painting a rosey picture of a super advanced civilization that has the ability to bend time & space, exist in the same time line and isn't constrained by the fact that there are 100's of millions of galaxies....maybe trillions. Again, I don't think we are alone in this universe....I just think we will always BE alone. 

[Frozenbeernuts 2,427]

31 minutes ago, Nomad99 said:

And you are painting a rosey picture of a super advanced civilization that has the ability to bend time & space, exist in the same time line and isn't constrained by the fact that there are 100's of millions of galaxies....maybe trillions. Again, I don't think we are alone in this universe....I just think we will always BE alone. 

All I am saying is that I am not going to proclaim what is impossible. If we have had contact with aliens, then it destroys whatever limits you think exist.

[Nomad99 842]

1 hour ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

All I am saying is that I am not going to proclaim what is impossible. If we have had contact with aliens, then it destroys whatever limits you think exist.

I'm hoping for it.....nothing would be more amazing....and i do think they are out there....unfortunately those of use alive today will most likely never see it.

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On 12/16/2025 at 12:21 PM, cmh6476 said:

why would an alien come to KC?

 Same reason I would. Fat chicks.

[GobbleDog 1,018]

34 minutes ago, Nomad99 said:

I'm hoping for it.....nothing would be more amazing....and i do think they are out there....unfortunately those of use alive today will most likely never see it.

A civilization billions of years ahead of us would consider humans no more valuable or interesting than bacteria. - Stephen Hawking.  He also likened aliens visiting to Columbus arriving in America - didn't go well for natives. 

Imagine you were a space traveler and landed on a planet with intelligent life and said "take me to your leader."  You wouldn't expect to get taken to a different leader depending on where you landed because they're fighting over invisible lines. Then they want to convert you to the ET religion.... creator of everything.  Probably think "intelligent, but primitive." 

[The Elevator Killer 725]

This smells like a false flag operation. After decades of denial someone leaks a video and the Pentagon says "Oh you got us. It's real. No charges against the leaker." The leaker that came from counter intelligence. Like all the other leakers. They all have counter intelligence in their back ground. Hmmmmm. I really hope this is not the case. 

So if they are not ours and from somewhere else, my bet would be on them being interdimensional. I would think breaking into another dimensional would be easier than creating a worm hole or whatever you would need to cross space. 

Just my thoughts. 

[Mr Fantasy 157]

2 minutes ago, The Elevator Killer said:

So if they are not ours and from somewhere else, my bet would be on them being interdimensional. I would think breaking into another dimensional 

Future humans or NHI?  This movie looks like it focuses on hybrids. They mention 7 billion have a right to know but the population is 8ish billion. Are they saying there are a billion hybrids?

[The Elevator Killer 725]

1 minute ago, Mr Fantasy said:

Future humans or NHI?  This movie looks like it focuses on hybrids. They mention 7 billion have a right to know but the population is 8ish billion. Are they saying there are a billion hybrids?

From the abduction stories they seem very interested in getting into our pants. For an advanced race you would think they would know they are looking at the wrong hole. 

[Mr Fantasy 157]

2 minutes ago, The Elevator Killer said:

From the abduction stories they seem very interested in getting into our pants. For an advanced race you would think they would know they are looking at the wrong hole. 

There always seems to be arse play involved. NTTAWWT 

[The Elevator Killer 725]

2 minutes ago, Mr Fantasy said:

There always seems to be arse play involved. NTTAWWT 

My arse disagrees with the end of your statement. It never occurred to me that they may be from a gay culture. 

[Mr Fantasy 157]

Hmmm there is a character in the movie listed on IMDb as 1947 excavating soldier

[Fnord 2,639]

2 hours ago, The Elevator Killer said:

My arse disagrees with the end of your statement. It never occurred to me that they may be from a gay culture. 

I've heard Windex will take care of this.

[Mr Fantasy 157]

41 minutes ago, Fnord said:

I've heard Windex will take care of this.

You would think lube would work better 

[Frozenbeernuts 2,427]

19 hours ago, GobbleDog said:

A civilization billions of years ahead of us would consider humans no more valuable or interesting than bacteria. - Stephen Hawking.  He also likened aliens visiting to Columbus arriving in America - didn't go well for natives. 

Imagine you were a space traveler and landed on a planet with intelligent life and said "take me to your leader."  You wouldn't expect to get taken to a different leader depending on where you landed because they're fighting over invisible lines. Then they want to convert you to the ET religion.... creator of everything.  Probably think "intelligent, but primitive." 

This is another assumption based on a very limited perspective. We find the lower intelligence species of our planet fascinating. If life is as scarce as you believe, and it is as hard to find as you believe, I would think and alien species would be thrilled to find us.

[Frozenbeernuts 2,427]

15 hours ago, The Elevator Killer said:

This smells like a false flag operation. After decades of denial someone leaks a video and the Pentagon says "Oh you got us. It's real. No charges against the leaker." The leaker that came from counter intelligence. Like all the other leakers. They all have counter intelligence in their back ground. Hmmmmm. I really hope this is not the case. 

So if they are not ours and from somewhere else, my bet would be on them being interdimensional. I would think breaking into another dimensional would be easier than creating a worm hole or whatever you would need to cross space. 

Just my thoughts. 

The movie itself? It may be. I am seeing so many theories thrown around.

For me personally, all I want to see is a bad ass alien movie, which is what I expect. I don't care about how they are trying to shape any narrative. They may be trying to introduce more fear into the equation.

I believe aliens exist, they have had contact with this earth for a very long time, possibly hundreds of thousands of years, and that there is nothing to fear as of now for the most part.

Before people get all high and mighty on their "I know exactly what is possible from my limited human mind" horse, I am always open to being wrong. I try not to be so definitive as to what is exactly going on or what is possible, because we just don't know. Paradigms are being shifted and broken all the time.

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15 hours ago, Mr Fantasy said:

Future humans or NHI?  This movie looks like it focuses on hybrids. They mention 7 billion have a right to know but the population is 8ish billion. Are they saying there are a billion hybrids?

It could be a mix of many. Hybrids, future humans, interdimensional, NHI from the 3rd dimension.

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Just saw the trailer.  Pissed I have to wait 6 months.