Why did Atlanta go for 2 last night when it was 20 to 28???

[edjr 7,010]

Was 14 to 28. Falcons score a TD and go for 2????????????

Touchdown 9:42
7-B.Robinson left end for 6 yards TOUCHDOWN.

20
28

Missed Two Point Conversion 9:37
TWO-POINT CONVERSION ATTEMPT. 18-K.Cousins pass to 8-K.Pitts is incomplete. ATTEMPT FAILS.
20
28

 

[jerryskids 7,171]

5 minutes ago, edjr said:

Was 14 to 28. Falcons score a TD and go for 2????????????

Touchdown 9:42
7-B.Robinson left end for 6 yards TOUCHDOWN.

20
28

Missed Two Point Conversion 9:37
TWO-POINT CONVERSION ATTEMPT. 18-K.Cousins pass to 8-K.Pitts is incomplete. ATTEMPT FAILS.
20
28

 

The thinking is that it improves the chance of a win vs. a tie.  If they are successful, a TD and XP gives them the lead.  If they fail (as in this case), they have another shot to go for two if they get another TD - they did get one, and they tried, and they failed again.  So obviously it's not a perfect system. 

It's the kind of thing a team that is out of the playoffs does.  Personally, I don't like it, because IMO it sends the message to your team that you can only win with gimmicks.   

[edjr 7,010]

2 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

The thinking is that it improves the chance of a win vs. a tie.  If they are successful, a TD and XP gives them the lead.  If they fail (as in this case), they have another shot to go for two if they get another TD - they did get one, and they tried, and they failed again.  So obviously it's not a perfect system. 

It's the kind of thing a team that is out of the playoffs does.  Personally, I don't like it, because IMO it sends the message to your team that you can only win with gimmicks.   

I get the thinking, but it is stoopid. Go for 2 when and if you score to make it 27 to 28, if you want to try and win.They still ended up winning which is hilarious. 

[jerryskids 7,171]

2 minutes ago, edjr said:

I get the thinking, but it is stoopid. Go for 2 when and if you score to make it 27 to 28, if you want to try and win.They still ended up winning which is hilarious. 

Yeah, I left the bolded out because it just would add confusion to the reasoning:  "hey, if we try and fail, then try and fail again, we can get a FG and still win!  Yahtzee!!!"   

[Grace Under Pressure 219]

Usually wives list the lower score first. 

“Oh honey it’s 1 to 3 in the Yankees game”. 

What are we doing here. 

[MDC 8,037]

I didn’t watch the game, but my guess is because Raheem Morris is a terrible coach and will be unemployed soon.

[Fnord 2,629]

This is part of the ANALYTICS ABOVE ALL craziness that has taken over the league. Many coaches have prioritized the use of these probabilities in their decision-making. It's foolish, IMO.

I won't compare playing a game of Madden on Playstation with real life NFL football, but a lot of the trends you see today were popularized by gamer kids years ago that are now in the coaching ranks. Deferring until the second half and doubling up the possessions at the end of the first half is an example. Gamers have done that for a couple decades, at least. Game management and understanding the time remaining, game flow, injuries, etc. seems like it's lost on some coaches. Analytics should be used to inform decision making, not dictate it.

[Hardcore troubadour 16,005]

Analytics! The bigger mystery is how did Morris get two HC jobs, in the same division no less. Atlanta didn’t get a good look at him? 

[edjr 7,010]

8 minutes ago, MDC said:

I didn’t watch the game, but my guess is because Raheem Morris is a terrible coach and will be unemployed soon.

100%

[edjr 7,010]

12 minutes ago, Grace Under Pressure said:

Usually wives list the lower score first. 

“Oh honey it’s 1 to 3 in the Yankees game”. 

What are we doing here. 

[The Elevator Killer 724]

Why not? The Bucs couldn't stop them any other time during the game. 

[WhiteWonder 2,981]

5 hours ago, edjr said:

I get the thinking, but it is stoopid. Go for 2 when and if you score to make it 27 to 28, if you want to try and win.They still ended up winning which is hilarious. 

i don't like it but I would prefer they do it the way they did rather than need an XP later on to tie the game and decide they would rather roll the dice with their season already over than play OT. 

At least going for 2 first means that at the end of the game they will either be going for the win or attempting to tie the game again. It feels a little more like they care. 

so many of the changes the NFL has made have had unintended consequences, I think, due to analytics. The extra point being moved back, the kickoff changes, the changes to the rules of overtime which I think make games much more likely to end in a tie, etc.

[WhiteWonder 2,981]

5 hours ago, Fnord said:

This is part of the ANALYTICS ABOVE ALL craziness that has taken over the league. Many coaches have prioritized the use of these probabilities in their decision-making. It's foolish, IMO.

I won't compare playing a game of Madden on Playstation with real life NFL football, but a lot of the trends you see today were popularized by gamer kids years ago that are now in the coaching ranks. Deferring until the second half and doubling up the possessions at the end of the first half is an example. Gamers have done that for a couple decades, at least. Game management and understanding the time remaining, game flow, injuries, etc. seems like it's lost on some coaches. Analytics should be used to inform decision making, not dictate it.

I agree, not dictate it but something like deferring IS game management. There will always be smarter ways to do things. The current OT for example, i'd also always be deferring. Your defense is going to have to stop or hold the other offense to a field goal regardless, i'd rather give them the ball first and know exactly what we have to do on our possession. 

[Drizzay 753]

Nerds always ruin sports.

[Mike Honcho 5,530]

They were playing to win? 

[SaintsInDome2006 745]

The stupid falcs going for broke to make the playoffs might have something to do with it. On the road they’re 6-9 if they get it plus 1 more TD, they win & a game out of first, & they get out of dodge wuth no OT. And it’s Cousins vs Mayfieid & his weapons so OT looked dark. Btw Bowles has a lousy coaching record too, Dennis Allen with a good offense.