Seattle in freefall under hyperwoke mayor as new order allows drug users to avoid prosecution ~ Dailymail

[edjr 7,094]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15435467/Katie-Wilson-Seattle-mayor-drug-arrests-homelessness.html

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Seattle has erupted into chaos under its new ultra-woke mayor as a police order allows drug users to avoid prosecution in the city plagued by crime and homelessness. 

Democratic socialist Katie Wilson, 43, was sworn in as the city's 58th mayor on Friday. 

The progressive politician who co-founded the Transit Riders Union has stepped into the role as concerned locals say a demand from the Seattle Police Department (SPD) will destroy Washington's largest city.

According to an internal email from SPD Chief Shon Barnes, most drug cases will now be handled by the Law Enforcement Assisted Diversion (LEAD) program. 

'Effective immediately, all charges related to drug possession and/or drug use will be diverted from prosecution to the LEAD program,' Barnes wrote in the New Year's Day message reviewed by the Daily Mail. 

'All instances of drug use or possession will be referred to Law Enforcement Assisted Diversion (LEAD) - a program designed to redirect low-level offenders in King County from the criminal justice system into supportive social services.'

Barnes wrote that if drug offenders refuse to comply with LEAD, prosecutors can then intervene. 

The program excludes those selling drugs and people with histories of violent felonies and sex offenses, as well as people already being supervised by the Department of Corrections. 

 

 

Embarrassing. Hopefully this happens to NYC too

I didn't see a seattle thread, so I made one. 

[listen2me 23 1,977]

Making drugs illegal or chargeable wont stop people from doing drugs.  But letting junkies have free reign just emboldens them to litter the streets with it.  It scums up communities.   Druggies arent all at home minding their own business doing drugs by themselves.  They are on the streets looking like scumbags and stealing things to support their habit.  

[Ron_Artest 2,681]

Another political thread. Bunch of focking losers. Why do you want to be the final flush to sink this place? Cut the ish

[thegeneral 3,788]

I’ll report from the front lines! 

[edjr 7,094]

 

1 minute ago, thegeneral said:

I’ll report from the front lines! 

I am sure it is all lies. Dailymail is well known to be MAGA

[Tree of Knowledge 2,296]

12 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

Making drugs illegal or chargeable wont stop people from doing drugs.  But letting junkies have free rein just emboldens them to litter the streets with it.  It scums up communities.   Druggies arent all at home minding their own business doing drugs by themselves.  They are on the streets looking like scumbags and stealing things to support their habit.  

Yes.  Bring back opium dens.  

[squistion 2,698]

58 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Another political thread. Bunch of focking losers. Why do you want to be the final flush to sink this place? Cut the ish

Exactly. I was hoping to see another "Guess Dey Color" thread and instead got this adding to the clutter in this forum. 

They just can't stop discussing politics, can they? 

[thegeneral 3,788]

1 minute ago, edjr said:

 

I am sure it is all lies. Dailymail is well known to be MAGA

This broad is very inexperienced and very left leaning, at least that’s how she was painted. The death of local news makes it harder to follow this stuff and what local news there is is pretty bad. 

The mayor here changes every 4 years. The guy this lady beat did a good job I thought so was disappointed to see him lose. Hard to get much extended traction when you are replacing the management so often.

I expect this mayor will be no different. 

 

[Hardcore troubadour 16,175]

I was there about 20 years ago. There were dope fiend zombies all over the place then.  

[Drizzay 766]

I appreciate Ed's topics.  Keep up the good work.

[edjr 7,094]

3 minutes ago, Drizzay said:

I appreciate Ed's topics.  Keep up the good work.

1 Seattle >>>>>>>>>>>> 7 Venezuela

[BrahmaBulls 1,006]

57 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Another political thread. Bunch of focking losers. Why do you want to be the final flush to sink this place? Cut the ish

You are no longer posting about politics?  Did I miss something?

[squistion 2,698]

1 minute ago, edjr said:

1 Seattle >>>>>>>>>>>> 7 Venezuela

1 Seattle + 7 Venezuela = 8 Political  

[thegeneral 3,788]

On its face value treating some drug users instead of jailing them isn’t a terrible idea. Give a shot to rehabilitate. The article says if they refuse they go to jail. Drugs dealers are excluded and go to jail.

 

[edjr 7,094]

5 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

On its face value treating some drug users instead of jailing them isn’t a terrible idea. Give a shot to rehabilitate. The article says if they refuse they go to jail. Drugs dealers are excluded and go to jail.

 

If you've ever know a junkie and I have known quite a few. They will never quit unless they are ready and willing to. "treating" is a waste of time in most cases. 

You want to give each person ONE chance to be treated? That is fine. It won't work. By all means, please try. 2nd time. Jail.

[edjr 7,094]

https://www.recoveryanswers.org/research-post/recovery-attempts-review/

How many tries does it take to resolve a substance use problem? Lessons from a national study of recovering adults in the U.S.

 

WHAT DID THIS STUDY FIND?

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The number of serious recovery attempts ranged from 0-100, with 50% of people (median) needing only 2, and an average of 5.

Approximately 13% of the sample reported not making any “serious” recovery attempts. Importantly, those with 5+ years of recovery reported the same pattern of serious recovery attempts (e.g., average = 5, median = 2) to that of the full sample. Number of recovery attempts did not vary by age, sex, education, or household income. Individuals who were non-Hispanic Black and not married reported a greater number of recovery attempts (Black average = 4.6, median = 3; not married average = 6.1, median = 2). Those with a diagnosis of depression or anxiety or who had received recovery support services (i.e., inpatient, outpatient, mutual–help, or any support service), reported a greater number of recovery attempts (depression disorder average = 5.8, median = 3; anxiety disorder average = 6.1, median = 3; previous recovery support services use average = 6.4, median = 3). Interestingly, age of problem onset and primary substance were not associated with differences in the number of recovery attempts before problem resolution.

Greater number of recovery attempts was related to higher psychological distress.

Greater number of recovery attempts was associated with lower quality of life, happiness, self-esteem, and higher psychological distress after problem resolution. However, when the authors controlled for the number of years since problem resolution, the association between number of recovery attempts and lowered happiness and self-esteem was no longer present. Furthermore, with the addition of key clinical predictors (depression, anxiety, and utilization of any treatment/recovery services), only the relationship between more recovery attempts and higher distress remained. This suggests that a greater number of recovery attempts was still associated with greater current psychological distress regardless of how long one has been in recovery, if they have history of mood and anxiety disorders, and/or if they have utilized treatment services before.

 

 

[thegeneral 3,788]

Just now, edjr said:

If you've ever know a junkie and I have known quite a few. They will never quit unless they are ready and willing to. "treating" is a waste of time in most cases. 

You want to give each person ONE chance to be treated? That is fine. It won't work. By all means, please try. 2nd time. Jail.

And that is ok. Modifying policy is how it should work trying to find the best solution. These are broad issues and you try and get to solutions that cover the biggest swath of people. 

You just keep junkies in jail forever isn’t going to do anything either. They will be replaced on the streets with a new batch. It’s not like we are going to run out of people who are losers who want to get focked up.

[Strike 6,110]

Why did you start this thread, @edjr?  You're just contributing to the problem.

[edjr 7,094]

Just now, Strike said:

Why did you start this thread, @edjr?  You're just contributing to the problem.

This is a serious problem. It is not political (to me)  

[thegeneral 3,788]

Would you people stop being big pussays and whining about topics

Grow up!

 

[edjr 7,094]

1 minute ago, thegeneral said:

And that is ok. Modifying policy is how it should work trying to find the best solution. These are broad issues and you try and get to solutions that cover the biggest swath of people. 

You just keep junkies in jail forever isn’t going to do anything either. They will be replaced on the streets with a new batch. It’s not like we are going to run out of people who are losers who want to get focked up.

No one says Jail forever. It is not easy to go through withdrawal, I have seen it too many times. It takes about 10 days to get over the "feeling sick". A very difficult process. They do offer methadone, but that keeps it in your system and you have to take it a for a very long time. Best bet for a junkie is 30 days in jail. They want to go back to using when they get out? That is on them. What more can we do?

[thegeneral 3,788]

2 minutes ago, edjr said:

No one says Jail forever. It is not easy to go through withdrawal, I have seen it too many times. It takes about 10 days to get over the "feeling sick". A very difficult process. They do offer methadone, but that keeps it in your system and you have to take it a for a very long time. Best bet for a junkie is 30 days in jail. They want to go back to using when they get out? That is on them. What more can we do?

Somewhere in between I would guess.

I don’t know anything about being addicted to drugs, having no education, no options. There are people who do and spend their lives trying to address this. The goal should be to get these losers to not be a complete drain on society. 

I’m guessing this policy has a shitton of layers to it. Tons of bureaucracy. People will take advantage of that and some clickbait articles will get written about that.

 

 

[Strike 6,110]

11 minutes ago, edjr said:

This is a serious problem. It is not political (to me)  

It's absolutely political.  Using your logic everyone will say the political threads they create are serious problems and not political TO THEM.  This is a local issue in Seattle due to them electing Dem woke mayors over and over.   Absolutely political.   You don't even live in Seattle or anywhere near there.

[edjr 7,094]

11 minutes ago, Strike said:

It's absolutely political.  Using your logic everyone will say the political threads they create are serious problems and not political TO THEM.  This is a local issue in Seattle due to them electing Dem woke mayors over and over.   Absolutely political.   You don't even live in Seattle or anywhere near there.

opinions are like azzholes. I'm not a MAGA retard. Sorry. 

I guess commenting on a NFL game or Golf tournament in California is also political. Not near me. 

[Horseman 2,816]

Seattle is a chit hole. Everyone knows it.  

The grift is on with every politician being on the board of Sound Transit soaking tens of millions a year in taxes.  

Homeless, garbage and grafitti everywhere.  Its disgusting.  

[dogcows 1,394]

1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I was there about 20 years ago. There were dope fiend zombies all over the place then.  

And then you left and everything instantly improved.

[thegeneral 3,788]

The clown show has shown up

[thegeneral 3,788]

3 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Seattle is a chit hole. Everyone knows it.  

The grift is on with every politician being on the board of Sound Transit soaking tens of millions a year in taxes.  

Homeless, garbage and grafitti everywhere.  It disgusting.  

Remind us where you lived again in “Seattle”

[Horseman 2,816]

Third world. 

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[supermike80 2,173]

These dipwads only want political threads when they refer to TRUMPPPPPPP

[Strike 6,110]

19 minutes ago, edjr said:

opinions are like azzholes. I'm not a MAGA retard. Sorry. 

I guess commenting on a NFL game or Golf tournament in California is also political. Not near me. 

I don't really care.  Just quit whining about political threads if you're going to contribute to the problem.

[Horseman 2,816]

Gotta go across town? Let's take a trip down I-5:

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[edjr 7,094]

4 minutes ago, Strike said:

I don't really care.  Just quit whining about political threads if you're going to contribute to the problem.

Don't care. Still comments.  I am sorry, I don't think politics 24/7. I don't gve a chit what you think. 

[Horseman 2,816]

Only the best people. 

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[thegeneral 3,788]

23 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

These dipwads only want political threads when they refer to TRUMPPPPPPP

I don’t think this is true at all

[Hardcore troubadour 16,175]

Jimi Hendrix and Kurt Cobain are from there. 

[thegeneral 3,788]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Jimi Hendrix and Kurt Cobain are from there. 

Lol

[squistion 2,698]

To set the record straight:

AI Overview

 

It is not true that drug users are no longer prosecuted in Seattle. Possession and public use of controlled substances remain a gross misdemeanor offense in Washington state and Seattle, with the potential for prosecution. 

 

However, the current policy, reinforced by a new City Attorney's Office directive in January 2026, emphasizes diverting individuals into treatment and services through the Law Enforcement Assisted Diversion (LEAD) program whenever possible, particularly for user-quantity cases. 

[Ron_Artest 2,681]

31 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

These dipwads only want political threads when they refer to TRUMPPPPPPP

These dipwads are only clowning on edjr for creating a political thread because he created another thread crying about the number of political threads, genius.

[thegeneral 3,788]

4 minutes ago, squistion said:

To correct the record:

AI Overview

 

It is not true that drug users are no longer prosecuted in Seattle. Possession and public use of controlled substances remain a gross misdemeanor offense in Washington state and Seattle, with the potential for prosecution. 

 

However, the current policy, reinforced by a new City Attorney's Office directive in January 2026, emphasizes diverting individuals into treatment and services through the Law Enforcement Assisted Diversion (LEAD) program whenever possible, particularly for user-quantity cases. 

The article Ed posted says this for the most part. All the geek experts who live in BFE know immediately it won’t work and know how to fix it. Oh and the liberals.