Woman shot in the face during 'ICE-related shooting' in Minneapolis

[thegeneral 3,794]

2 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Definitely. If he didn't blow her Violent Liberal head off then he'd probably be dead. She was trying to kill him. 

Thank God for his quick trigger hand. He saved many lives from the hands of this violent anti-American Killer. 

lol

[Horseman 2,822]

2 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

I def want to see more footage and how this all came to be. You could see the lady waiving cars through and then multiple cars went through. Then all hell broke loose. From just this video I don’t see how it escalated so quickly.

From what we have IMO Thai cop should not be walking around with a gun with the authority to shoot people. He needs to be a mall cop if he wants to stay in this line of work, maybe carry around a wooden gun a small rubber club. 

Tonedef wants cops to be unarmed when making arrests.   JFC.

[thegeneral 3,794]

Just now, Horseman said:

Tonedef want cops to be unarmed when making arrests.   JFC.

You are dumb, perhaps reread that

Maybe take a break, knee jerk! You are flailing blindly and madly. Maybe go drive the tractor around!

[Horseman 2,822]

1 minute ago, thegeneral said:

You are dumb, perhaps reread that

Maybe take a break, knee jerk! You are flailing blindly and madly. Maybe go drive the tractor around!

You're the idiot that called him a Thai cop.  

[thegeneral 3,794]

1 minute ago, Horseman said:

You're the idiot that called him a Thai cop.  

Autocorrect. I order a lot of Pad Kra Proa, satay, and noodle soup.

If you can’t figure out around a typo let me know and I can help you out.

[Horseman 2,822]

2 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Autocorrect. I order a lot of Pad Kra Proa, satay, and noodle soup.

If you can’t figure out around a typo let me know and I can help you out.

You have to be able to help yourself first.  

[Horseman 2,822]

12 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Definitely. If he didn't blow her Violent Liberal head off then he'd probably be dead. She was trying to kill him. 

Thank God for his quick trigger hand. He saved many lives from the hands of this violent anti-American Killer. 

At the very least error on the side of safety around these lunatics.  

[nobody 2,974]

2 hours ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Why is the Customs and Border Protection agency at a high school in Minneapolis???

Damn.  I heard they released mustard gas on the school.  The organization must be stopped and prosecuted.

[SaintsInDome2006 866]

31 minutes ago, cyclone24 said:

Wooooww. Oh yes, as long as everyone is compliant with liberals then and only then is it comparatively normal and peaceful. You didn’t see this behavior under Joe. 
And this completely ignores how chaotic it was with North Korea, the border, Russia, taking over new land, getting our asses kicked in almost every single metric that we are no longer.

Like I said, you guys have no self-awareness whatsoever. Of course it was peaceful because you guys had one so you guys don’t whine and every day. 
That has a lot more to do with Republicans than it does anything with what Joe was doing

This compliance thing fascinates me. Yes conservatives were compliant. So were liberals. Also compliant: the US government. Because we are - were - a nation of law followers. 

When did it become conservative to believe that the Federal government’s agencies can do whatever it wants, whenever, however to whoever it wants? Don’t bother telling me Obama/Biden, because Maga has exited conservatism, blown past liberalism, waved at socialism & just kept going.

[Fnord 2,699]

14 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Let me guess, you are the guy who thinks the ref sucks because hi-def slo-mo shows that the receiver's cleat grazes a blade of grass.

The only way to accurately assess it is full speed, and preferrable from the angle of the shooter.

For Chauvin, I don't want to re-litigate it.  I'll just say that from the moment they kept the trial in Minneapolis instead of finding a neutral venue, it was on its way to being a clown show.

That's some pretty excellent disingenuousness right there. Insinuating on my behalf that a ref blowing a call in a game equates with a woman getting shot and killed

I'm a helluva lot more willing to give a ref the benefit of the doubt since typically their motivations are pretty obvious. This latest round of ICE recruits have even less training and experience than a typical referee with a much more intense responsibility. Hell, this guy may not even be a noob.

And don't worry about a "tainted" jury in this case. Listening to local radio yesterday they had an ex USA as a guest that said the Feds can legally move the trial out of state court and into federal court, assuming it even advances to that point. My guess is this guy walks away with a short administrative leave, if that. 

[SaintsInDome2006 866]

2 minutes ago, nobody said:

Damn.  I heard they released mustard gas on the school.  The organization must be stopped and prosecuted.

I don’t know, I sincerely hope not.

[SaintsInDome2006 866]

13 minutes ago, Gepetto said:

50 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

According to VP Vance, who has no role in any of this, “We were going door to door to try to find criminal illegal aliens.” 

That's what they are doing? Going door to door to find illegal aliens to deport them? That's what Vance said. And I wonder how do they determine if one is illegal? People don't have citizenship cards. Birth certificates, yes, but not always around and handy. This is ridiculous. Fock JD Vance.

Thank you. Knocking on doors, opening car doors, demanding papers. That’s where we are.

[Maximum Overkill 2,707]

4 minutes ago, Horseman said:

At the very least error on the side of safety around these lunatics.  

Yes, I urge all Patriots to carry. Protect yourself from Violent Liberals, especially in these times. They will try to kill you 

 

[Hardcore troubadour 16,178]

Saints thinks Biden stumbling around and his staff using the auto pen as they saw fit is a good, calm way to go about things.  

[Horseman 2,822]

5 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

This compliance thing fascinates me. Yes conservatives were compliant. So were liberals. Also compliant: the US government. Because we are - were - a nation of law followers. 

When did it become conservative to believe that the Federal government’s agencies can do whatever it wants, whenever, however to whoever it wants? Don’t bother telling me Obama/Biden, because Maga has exited conservatism, blown past liberalism, waved at socialism & just kept going.

Quote

 

Harry S. Truman

 • Korea (1950) – Deployed U.S. forces and authorized airstrikes in Korea without formal Congressional declaration of war.

Dwight D. Eisenhower

 • Lebanon (1958) – Ordered U.S. air and naval forces into Lebanon to stabilize a political crisis.

John F. Kennedy

 • Cuba (1961–1962) – Bay of Pigs (though indirectly supported), and later the Cuban Missile Crisis military posture.

Lyndon B. Johnson

 • Vietnam (1964) – Gulf of Tonkin airstrikes occurred before the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution was passed.

Richard Nixon

 • Cambodia & Laos (1969–1973) – Conducted secret and unauthorized bombing campaigns as part of Vietnam War.

Jimmy Carter

 • Iran (1980) – Operation Eagle Claw failed attempt to free hostages

Ronald Reagan

 • Libya (1986) – Bombed Tripoli and Benghazi in retaliation for the Berlin discotheque bombing.

 • Grenada (1983) – Invasion and airstrikes without prior congressional approval.

George H. W. Bush

 • Panama (1989) – Invasion and airstrikes to oust Manuel Noriega.

 • Iraq (1990–1991) – Airstrikes began before Congress passed a resolution approving Desert Storm.

Bill Clinton

 • Bosnia (1995) – NATO airstrikes in Bosnia without Congressional approval.

 • Iraq (1998) – Operation Desert Fox airstrikes against Saddam Hussein.

 • Kosovo (1999) – 78-day NATO bombing campaign without Congressional approval.

George W. Bush

 • Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia (2001–2009) – Authorized drone strikes relying on the 2001 AUMF but without specific country-by-country authorization.

Barack Obama

 • Libya (2011) – Air campaign as part of NATO action to topple Gaddafi, without Congressional approval.

 • Syria, Iraq, Somalia, Yemen (2014–2016) – Airstrikes against ISIS and other terror groups under 2001 AUMF, no new authorization sought.

Donald Trump

 • Syria (2017, 2018) – Airstrikes against Assad regime over chemical weapons, without Congressional approval.

 • Iraq (2020) – Ordered airstrike that killed Iranian General Qassem Soleimani.

Joe Biden

 • Syria (2021, 2022) – Airstrikes on Iranian-backed militia groups.

 • Somalia & Yemen (ongoing) – Continued air campaigns under prior AUMFs

 

But Truuuuump!.

[SaintsInDome2006 866]

3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Saints thinks Biden stumbling around and his staff using the auto pen as they saw fit is a good, calm way to go about things.  

Eh sans roughly 8 kinetic foreign attacks & threats against allies, abrogating the Constitution scores of ways, cancelling foreign treaties by the bushelful, tariff taxes, National federal police in the streets, threats to GOP & Dem politicians alike…. this thing in MN, etc. Yeah.

[jerryskids 7,248]

15 minutes ago, nobody said:

Damn.  I heard they released mustard gas on the school.  The organization must be stopped and prosecuted.

They had Saddam Hussein's stash all along!!!

12 minutes ago, Fnord said:

That's some pretty excellent disingenuousness right there. Insinuating on my behalf that a ref blowing a call in a game equates with a woman getting shot and killed

I'm a helluva lot more willing to give a ref the benefit of the doubt since typically their motivations are pretty obvious. This latest round of ICE recruits have even less training and experience than a typical referee with a much more intense responsibility. Hell, this guy may not even be a noob.

And don't worry about a "tainted" jury in this case. Listening to local radio yesterday they had an ex USA as a guest that said the Feds can legally move the trial out of state court and into federal court, assuming it even advances to that point. My guess is this guy walks away with a short administrative leave, if that. 

Sorry man, you are all over the place here.  My analogy is bad because ICE isn't trained well.  Or evil.  Or both!  And you don't think a federal trial would be fair because, clearly, you represent an impartial Minneapolis resident.  

But to your point, I also heard that they can move it to a federal case.  I also heard they could do the same with the inevitable civil suit.  The obvious way this will play out is that the officer won't get the electric chair, and you and your fellow sky screamers will scream bias because it is so obvious from a hi-def slo-mo recording that the 5000 lb projectile missed him by 6 inches$#@!

[cyclone24 1,962]

12 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

This compliance thing fascinates me. Yes conservatives were compliant. So were liberals. Also compliant: the US government. Because we are - were - a nation of law followers. 

When did it become conservative to believe that the Federal government’s agencies can do whatever it wants, whenever, however to whoever it wants? Don’t bother telling me Obama/Biden, because Maga has exited conservatism, blown past liberalism, waved at socialism & just kept going.

Did you honestly type that with a straight face? I mean your new liberal hero from yesterday only broke about five different laws. Or how about the guy the day before throwing rocks through Vance‘s window? Or how about literally any day before that where we have a transvestite shooting people, or shooting at political opponents. Don’t even try this follow the law nonsense like Biden with some law order president. Give me a break. We’ve seen how liberals react to law and order. We got it yesterday in Minneapolis.

[SaintsInDome2006 866]

1 minute ago, cyclone24 said:

Did you honestly type that with a straight face? I mean your new liberal hero from yesterday only broke about five different laws. Or how about the guy the day before throwing rocks through Vance‘s window? Or how about literally any day before that where we have a transvestite shooting people, or shooting at political opponents. Don’t even try this follow the law nonsense like Biden with some law order president. Give me a break. We’ve seen how liberals react to law and order. We got it yesterday in Minneapolis.

Before we move on to other things - what laws? I’m aware of obstruction as a claim & I suppose rolling over the federal agent is argued. What else?

[TimHauck 3,516]

1 hour ago, jerryskids said:

I agree that she probably wasn't trying to hit him, but you and a lot of Lefties here seem to have a version of Biden's "shoot 'em in the leg" syndrome; namely, if the car hit him, then his actions were OK, but if not, they weren't.  That's like saying you can only shoot an intruder in your house if they shoot you first.

 

Well yeah personally I don’t think his actions were “OK” either way, I think he should have just gotten completely out of the way and not shot at all.   But you’re right, legally he’s probably justified even if it didn’t hit him as long as he says he feared for his life or whatever.  But let’s be honest, if a car is coming at you and you shoot the driver, how does that make you and others around you safer?  If anything it makes it more dangerous.

[cyclone24 1,962]

4 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Before we move on to other things - what laws? I’m aware of obstruction as a claim & I suppose rolling over the federal agent is argued. What else?

If she allowed herself to be arrested. Yes she would’ve gotten blocking traffic, obstruction of federal agents, noncompliance  stopping for an officer, evading, assault with a deadly weapon. 

This lawful observer nonsense is gibberish. She went there to cause problems. She got problems.
 

 

[Fnord 2,699]

10 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Sorry man, you are all over the place here.  My analogy is bad because ICE isn't trained well.  Or evil.  Or both!  And you don't think a federal trial would be fair because, clearly, you represent an impartial Minneapolis resident.  

But to your point, I also heard that they can move it to a federal case.  I also heard they could do the same with the inevitable civil suit.  The obvious way this will play out is that the officer won't get the electric chair, and you and your fellow sky screamers will scream bias because it is so obvious from a hi-def slo-mo recording that the 5000 lb projectile missed him by 6 inches$#@!

Your analogy is bad because you're making an incorrect assumption about me.

ICE agents are not trained as well as normal LEOs. Many of those signing up are basically street thugs that want to make cash and go aggro on some folks, they don't care who. I suspect your feelings would be vastly different if your political leanings weren't as they are, just as you think the same of me.

If you think that was justified, good for you. I like and respect you so we can agree to disagree. Vehemently.

[TimHauck 3,516]

6 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Before we move on to other things - what laws? I’m aware of obstruction as a claim & I suppose rolling over the federal agent is argued. What else?

 @Strike also chose not to answer what major crime he thinks Ms Good was committing prior to driving away.

[SaintsInDome2006 866]

Just now, cyclone24 said:

If she allowed herself to be arrested. Yes she would’ve gotten blocking traffic, obstruction of federal agents, noncompliance  stopping for an officer, evading, assault with a deadly weapon. 

This lawful observer nonsense is gibberish. She went there to cause problems. She got problems.

Ok thank you. And what does conservatism say about the 1st Amendment & Free Speech. As a conservative what comes first, the individual or the authority of the federal state?

[Horseman 2,822]

The Metal Hemets made it to the corner and successfully tagged in!  

[cyclone24 1,962]

1 minute ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Ok thank you. And what does conservatism say about the 1st Amendment & Free Speech. As a conservative what comes first, the individual or the authority of the federal state?

Are you really trying to make what she was doing a free speech issue Or violation of it by the agent?
 

 

[SaintsInDome2006 866]

Just now, cyclone24 said:

Are you really trying to make what she was doing a free speech issue? 

I just asked you a simple question. Every conservative from Hamilton to Reagan knows this one cold.

[Horseman 2,822]

1 minute ago, cyclone24 said:

Are you really trying to make what she was doing a free speech issue Or violation of it by the agent?
 

 

He's not well.  

[Strike 6,115]

2 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

 @Strike also chose not to answer what major crime he thinks Ms Good was committing prior to driving away.

Because I don't have the federal registry of crimes memorized, nor am I qualified to decide the parameters of the crimes she would have been arrested for committing.  But I know it was more serious than a traffic violation or shoplifting, which you and someone else were comparing her crimes to.

[Fnord 2,699]

1 minute ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

I just asked you a simple question. Every conservative from Hamilton to Reagan knows this one cold.

Yeah but they sure as hell don't wanna talk about it anymore.

[Fnord 2,699]

1 minute ago, Strike said:

Because I don't have the federal registry of crimes memorized, nor am I qualified to decide the parameters of the crimes she would have been arrested for committing.  But I know it was more serious than a traffic violation or shoplifting, which you and someone else were comparing her crimes to.

When has this ever stopped you from offering a biased opinion or admitting you were wrong? Please.

[TimHauck 3,516]

1 minute ago, Strike said:

Because I don't have the federal registry of crimes memorized, nor am I qualified to decide the parameters of the crimes she would have been arrested for committing.  But I know it was more serious than a traffic violation or shoplifting, which you and someone else were comparing her crimes to.

IANAL but looked like a misdemeanor.

Would be nice if there was additional video of what was happening prior though.

[nobody 2,974]

32 minutes ago, Fnord said:

. My guess is this guy walks away with a short administrative leave, if that. 

Don't forget the millions you guys are going to make him by prosecuting him for an obviously clean shoot.  

The millions will be because you guys can't help yourself and some news outfit will escalate the defamation in the race to see who's the most woke.  Rittenhouse all over again.

[jerryskids 7,248]

5 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Well yeah personally I don’t think his actions were “OK” either way, I think he should have just gotten completely out of the way and not shot at all.   But you’re right, legally he’s probably justified even if it didn’t hit him as long as he says he feared for his life or whatever.  But let’s be honest, if a car is coming at you and you shoot the driver, how does that make you and others around you safer?  If anything it makes it more dangerous.

I don't think shooting the person necessarily makes it safer, but I also don't think he was thinking about that.  He had a split second and appeared to start drawing about when the SUV launched forward.  

To me, Occam's Razor says he said "focccckkkk!!!!!!", drew his gun, shot, leapt, hell he would have thrown his shoe if he could have, but it all happened in a fraction of a second.

This would be supported by what I've also heard (but haven't confirmed) that he had had some sort of traumatic experience being dragged behind a car in another situation? If true, maybe he shouldn't have been out there in the first place, but that seems more the responsibility (accountability?) of his management.

The alternative theory which seems to be proposed by the ICE lovers here, is that he saw the SUV lurch forward and said to himself "self, here is my chance to shoot this lady in the face!"  I think that's a little too much evil to assign to a split second decision, but I guess it's a possibility.

[SaintsInDome2006 866]

2 minutes ago, nobody said:

Don't forget the millions you guys are going to make him by prosecuting him for an obviously clean shoot.  

The millions will be because you guys can't help yourself and some news outfit will escalate the defamation in the race to see who's the most woke.  Rittenhouse all over again.

I don’t think Rittenhouse won any civil suit… he didn’t win a malicious prosecution motion or anything like that. He’s been sued though.

[TimHauck 3,516]

1 minute ago, jerryskids said:

I don't think shooting the person necessarily makes it safer, but I also don't think he was thinking about that.  He had a split second and appeared to start drawing about when the SUV launched forward.  

To me, Occam's Razor says he said "focccckkkk!!!!!!", drew his gun, shot, leapt, hell he would have thrown his shoe if he could have, but it all happened in a fraction of a second.

This would be supported by what I've also heard (but haven't confirmed) that he had had some sort of traumatic experience being dragged behind a car in another situation? If true, maybe he shouldn't have been out there in the first place, but that seems more the responsibility (accountability?) of his management.

The alternative theory which seems to be proposed by the ICE lovers here, is that he saw the SUV lurch forward and said to himself "self, here is my chance to shoot this lady in the face!"  I think that's a little too much evil to assign to a split second decision, but I guess it's a possibility.

It was more than a split second IMO.  He could have gotten out of the way when she started reversing.

[SaintsInDome2006 866]

11 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Yeah but they sure as hell don't wanna talk about it anymore.

We appear to have reached the river’s edge.

[Maximum Overkill 2,707]

2 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

He could have gotten out of the way when she started reversing.

She could of followed directions and still be alive. 

[thegeneral 3,794]

1 minute ago, jerryskids said:

I don't think shooting the person necessarily makes it safer, but I also don't think he was thinking about that.  He had a split second and appeared to start drawing about when the SUV launched forward.  

To me, Occam's Razor says he said "focccckkkk!!!!!!", drew his gun, shot, leapt, hell he would have thrown his shoe if he could have, but it all happened in a fraction of a second.

This would be supported by what I've also heard (but haven't confirmed) that he had had some sort of traumatic experience being dragged behind a car in another situation? If true, maybe he shouldn't have been out there in the first place, but that seems more the responsibility (accountability?) of his management.

The alternative theory which seems to be proposed by the ICE lovers here, is that he saw the SUV lurch forward and said to himself "self, here is my chance to shoot this lady in the face!"  I think that's a little too much evil to assign to a split second decision, but I guess it's a possibility.

We have no clue and almost for sure never can know. Cops get the benefit of the doubt.

This is incompetence. Poor policy, thrown together by a bunch of politicians and kiss ass bureaucrats.

[Ron_Artest 2,688]

The Gestapo is going after HS kids now.  Not shocked.