Interference with or Obstructing Law Enforcement

[Fireballer 2,721]

12 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

 I don't want to see them deported.  

This is really the crux of most p!ssing matches in the GC.  Idiots like you have veered so far off the reservation that your real issue is that ICE is enforcing immigration law at all.  It’s just more proof that most rational people really haven’t moved towards the right on the political spectrum.  Leftists are racing left with no signs of slowing down.  Moderates are now MAGA.  

[cyclone24 2,011]

1 minute ago, Ron_Artest said:

Their target was our congress and that dumb b1tch ashley madison or whatever almost made it there until thankfully a cop stopped her and put her down. I'm sure you support her death, FAFO right?

Hah ashley madison is a nice pull.

I person really didn’t. Like with all this in Minneapolis if you put yourself in a dumb situation, you can leave it up to other people to make a dumb decision that affects you. 
 

Now I get it. You want a lump us all together and that’s fine. Just don’t complain when we lump you guys all together. 

[Strike 6,200]

1 minute ago, Ron_Artest said:

Never said illegal

If law enforcement wants to detain you, or someone else around you, you let them.   Just like a traffic stop.  That's not the time to contest it.  You contest it legally and, if it's unjust, you sue or do whatever you want to do in the appropriate, legal manner.  That's how you live in a civilized society.  Resisting law enforcement never ends well for you.  EVER.

[Ron_Artest 2,897]

3 minutes ago, cyclone24 said:

Just purely made up gibberish

Yeah I was wrong, it's 95%

5% of People Detained By ICE Have Violent Convictions

Of people booked into ICE custody this fiscal year (since October 1, 2025):

Nearly three in four (73 percent) had no criminal conviction.

https://www.cato.org/blog/5-ice-detainees-have-violent-convictions-73-no-convictions

[MDC 8,344]

If masked agents demand your papers or try to detain you without cause, you should lay down and lick their boots like a good cuck.  

[Ron_Artest 2,897]

Just now, Strike said:

If law enforcement wants to detain you, or someone else around you, you let them.   Just like a traffic stop.  That's not the time to contest it.  You contest it legally and, if it's unjust, you sue or do whatever you want to do in the appropriate, legal manner.  That's how you live in a civilized society.  Resisting law enforcement never ends well for you.  EVER.

We're not talking about law enforcement or a traffic stop.  I'm talking about a masked man approaches you and your wife, and grabs your wife.  No ID, no warrant, no explanation. You're not gonna fight back?

[Ron_Artest 2,897]

Just now, MDC said:

If masked agents demand your papers or try to detain you without cause, you should lay down and lick their boots like a good cuck.  

Seriously what the fock happened to these people?

[Ron_Artest 2,897]

3 minutes ago, cyclone24 said:

Hah ashley madison is a nice pull.

I person really didn’t. Like with all this in Minneapolis if you put yourself in a dumb situation, you can leave it up to other people to make a dumb decision that affects you. 
 

Now I get it. You want a lump us all together and that’s fine. Just don’t complain when we lump you guys all together. 

Well clarify, did you support the J6 Patriots and their pardon?

[Strike 6,200]

1 minute ago, Ron_Artest said:

We're not talking about law enforcement or a traffic stop.  I'm talking about a masked man approaches you and your wife, and grabs your wife.  No ID, no warrant, no explanation. You're not gonna fight back?

Just stop.  Masked men aren't kidnapping Americans.   GTFOH.  You sound like the AZ Governor.

[Grace Under Pressure 274]

“Otherwise they deserve to get murdered!!”

MAGA is a dangerous and violent cult. Dumb and gullible as well.

[cyclone24 2,011]

3 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Well clarify, did you support the J6 Patriots and their pardon?

No, I don’t think they should’ve been there doing that. Have I looked through every single pardon to see if it was justified or not? No. 
Pardon stuff for either side I try not to get riled up about too much because they both do it and they usually never make any sense. (This doesn’t apply to proactive pardons though.)

[cyclone24 2,011]

Just now, Grace Under Pressure said:

“Otherwise they deserve to get murdered!!”

MAGA is a dangerous and violent cult. Dumb and gullible as well.

Must be difficult to switch accounts all the time. You don’t really come off any smarter on this one.

[Hawkeye21 2,484]

5 minutes ago, MDC said:

If masked agents demand your papers or try to detain you without cause, you should lay down and lick their boots like a good cuck.  

 

4 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Seriously what the fock happened to these people?

Why would you break more laws and make things worse for you?  I think you're mistaking us with the very far right.  Those are the ones who say they are going to shoot anyone that enters their home.  They're the, don't tread on me people.  I am the type that tries to keep things calm and don't want to give anyone a reason to do anything dumb.

[Fireballer 2,721]

11 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

I know it's easier said than done, but, when you know you've done nothing wrong you need to just follow orders and go through the process.  When they are able to determine that they were in the wrong you get let go safely.  At that point, you can sue them if you want.

It’s literally unlawful to resist an unlawful detention in most, if not all states. 

[Ron_Artest 2,897]

6 minutes ago, Strike said:

Just stop.  Masked men aren't kidnapping Americans.   GTFOH.  You sound like the AZ Governor.

 

It's not happening <--- You are here

It's not widespread <--- Your next reply

[Fireballer 2,721]

9 minutes ago, MDC said:

If masked agents demand your papers or try to detain you without cause, you should lay down and lick their boots like a good cuck.  

Talk to your lawmakers. They’re the ones that made it illegal resisting an unlawful detention.  Don’t fight the cops on the street.

[Ron_Artest 2,897]

3 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

 

Why would you break more laws and make things worse for you?  I think you're mistaking us with the very far right.  Those are the ones who say they are going to shoot anyone that enters their home.  They're the, don't tread on me people.  I am the type that tries to keep things calm and don't want to give anyone a reason to do anything dumb.

I'm with you, I'm the same type.  I got pulled over recently, kept my hands on the steering wheel, Hello Officer, yes sir, etc.

But if there are gangs of masked men kidnapping people with no warrants, I'm defending myself.

[Strike 6,200]

2 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

 

It's not happening <--- You are here

It's not widespread <--- Your next reply

No, my reply is I have no focking idea who Ed Krassenstein is and I do very little Twitter.  I have no desire to use it as a source, especially from the feed of some dude I've never heard of.  And assuming it's legit I bet they told him who they are and why they're detaining him.

[Hawkeye21 2,484]

1 minute ago, Ron_Artest said:

 

It's not happening <--- You are here

It's not widespread <--- Your next reply

Look how calm the man is and how he's not being hurt.  That allows him to prove his innocence and if he was wrongfully detained, he can sue them.  Does it suck for him? Yes.  Could it be worse? Absolutely.

[Ron_Artest 2,897]

3 minutes ago, Strike said:

No, my reply is I have no focking idea who Ed Krassenstein is and I do very little Twitter.  I have no desire to use it as a source, especially from the feed of some dude I've never heard of.

https://www.startribune.com/st-paul-mayor-livid-after-ice-wrongly-targets-family-friend-escorts-him-undressed-into-cold/601566974

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/ice-broke-into-minnesota-home-dragged-barely-clothed-man-into-snow-2026-01-20/

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/us-citizen-shares-fear-felt-ice-took-minnesota-home-nearly-naked-rcna254890

https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/ice-elderly-hmong-american-citizen-arrested-st-paul/

How about now?  Still say it's fake?

[FrancieFootball 436]

39 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Seriously what kind of an idiot thinks that protesters are trying to protect violent criminals?  Who wants a violent criminal living in their neighborhood?

Use common sense for once.

Just more stupidity from the MAGA spin machine.

A terrified woman behind the wheel suddenly becomes a terrorist weaponizing a vehicle to run down an agent.

A man standing on the sidewalk and holding a cell phone suddenly becomes a terrorist bent on shooting agents.

MAGAs are the only ones buying this nonsense and trying to pound square pegs into round holes.

America has had enough!

[Hawkeye21 2,484]

1 minute ago, Ron_Artest said:

I'm with you, I'm the same type.  I got pulled over recently, kept my hands on the steering wheel, Hello Officer, yes sir, etc.

But if there are gangs of masked men kidnapping people with no warrants, I'm defending myself.

I don't think I've seen video of gangs of masked men that haven't had some form of identifying features on them yet.  They all have some sort of department name on their vest or coat.  I don't know if they identify themselves when they enter but I know that's usually normal procedure with police.

[Fireballer 2,721]

7 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

 

It's not happening <--- You are here

It's not widespread <--- Your next reply

So that’s it?  That’s the whole story??? No other details surrounding them entering the house?

[Strike 6,200]

I looked up the incident you posted @Ron_Artest.  Sounds a bit more legit when you hear both sides.  And the guy knew it was law enforcement detaining him:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/us-citizen-shares-fear-felt-ice-took-minnesota-home-nearly-naked-rcna254890

So quit with your narrative about random people kidnapping Americans.  Why do people on your side always make stuff up?  If you can't make a case with real, factual evidence, maybe you have no case.

[Strike 6,200]

Just now, Fireballer said:

So that’s it?  That’s the whole story??? No other details surrounding them entering the house?

See my post with an actual news story on this case.  As usual Artest is full of sh*t.

[Ron_Artest 2,897]

1 minute ago, Hawkeye21 said:

I don't think I've seen video of gangs of masked men that haven't had some form of identifying features on them yet.  They all have some sort of department name on their vest or coat.  I don't know if they identify themselves when they enter but I know that's usually normal procedure with police.

They don't identify themselves or have warrants.

FBI Warns of Criminals Posing as ICE, Urges Agents to ID Themselves

https://www.wired.com/story/fbi-warns-of-criminals-posing-as-ice-urges-agents-to-id-themselves/

We're going down a rabbit hole now.  My point, was that this is not your typical law enforcement operation.  People have the right to question what is happening.

[Ron_Artest 2,897]

2 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

So that’s it?  That’s the whole story??? No other details surrounding them entering the house?

You can read the 4 articles I posted if you want.

[MDC 8,344]

11 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

 

Why would you break more laws and make things worse for you?  

Break “more” laws? I’ve seen videos of ICE agents demanding people show their immigration status while they’re filling up the car at the pump and assaulting folks for filming them. That Pretti guy took a face full of pepper spray for trying to get in between an ICE agent who’d shoved a woman to the ground.

Should you lay down and lick their boots of people who behave like this?  

[edjr 7,162]

ya but Trump!!!!!!

[Ron_Artest 2,897]

3 minutes ago, Strike said:

I looked up the incident you posted @Ron_Artest.  Sounds a bit more legit when you hear both sides.  And the guy knew it was law enforcement detaining him:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/us-citizen-shares-fear-felt-ice-took-minnesota-home-nearly-naked-rcna254890

So quit with your narrative about random people kidnapping Americans.  Why do people on your side always make stuff up?  If you can't make a case with real, factual evidence, maybe you have no case.

I didn't say anything about "random" people, liar.

[Strike 6,200]

2 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

They don't identify themselves or have warrants.

FBI Warns of Criminals Posing as ICE, Urges Agents to ID Themselves

https://www.wired.com/story/fbi-warns-of-criminals-posing-as-ice-urges-agents-to-id-themselves/

We're going down a rabbit hole now.  My point, was that this is not your typical law enforcement operation.  People have the right to question what is happening.

WTF does people impersonating ICE have to do with ICE supposedly not showing ID?  You're losing it man.  

[Fireballer 2,721]

4 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

You can read the 4 articles I posted if you want.

LMAO…   This is old news. The Twitter outrage was fake. Even one of your links says the guy lived with two wanted sex offenders, met the description, and refused to ID himself.  Keep linking stuff that reveals that youre an idiot.

[cyclone24 2,011]

https://x.com/brick_suit/status/2015809547579912280?s=46
 

This is the type of people leading their side of the Civil War. Yeah we ok. Lol.

[Hawkeye21 2,484]

1 minute ago, MDC said:

Break “more” laws? I’ve seen videos of ICE agents demanding people show their immigration status while they’re filling up the car at the pump and assaulting folks for filming them. That Pretti guy took a face full of pepper spray for trying to get in between an ICE agent who’d shoved a woman to the ground.

Should you lay down and lick their boots of people who behave like this?  

It's a felony to batter law enforcement.  You could possibly get those charges dropped though.  Why fight though?  You aren't going to win against that many people.  All you're going to do is get yourself seriously hurt or killed.

[Fireballer 2,721]

5 minutes ago, Strike said:

See my post with an actual news story on this case.  As usual Artest is full of sh*t.

Dudes links don’t even support his narrative

[Strike 6,200]

4 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

I didn't say anything about "random" people, liar.

You said ICE isn't showing ID and just kidnapping people.  From the perspective of the "kidnapped" and anyone with them that would be random people.  You're losing it man 

[Ron_Artest 2,897]

2 minutes ago, Strike said:

WTF does people impersonating ICE have to do with ICE supposedly not showing ID?  You're losing it man.  

Like I said, we went down a rabbit hole, the original point is there are situations where it's plausible to interfere with a federal officer, like when he is masked, doesn't provide ID and is hostile towards one of your loved ones.  I wouldn't blame anyone for intefering with that.  You of course would lay down and ask if you can open the door.

[Strike 6,200]

1 minute ago, Ron_Artest said:

Like I said, we went down a rabbit hole, the original point is there are situations where it's plausible to interfere with a federal officer, like when he is masked, doesn't provide ID and is hostile towards one of your loved ones.  I wouldn't blame anyone for intefering with that.  You of course would lay down and ask if you can open the door.

No, this is pure deflection.  People impersonating ICE has NOTHING to do with anything being discussed.  

[MDC 8,344]

1 minute ago, Hawkeye21 said:

It's a felony to batter law enforcement.  You could possibly get those charges dropped though.  Why fight though?  You aren't going to win against that many people.  All you're going to do is get yourself seriously hurt or killed.

So a masked LEO demands your papers and detains you without cause if you refuse. If you struggle or otherwise refuse to comply with this illegal and unconstitutional demand, that’s “battering” an officer.

May as well cooperate and enjoy it!  

[Ron_Artest 2,897]

4 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

LMAO…   This is old news. The Twitter outrage was fake. Even one of your links says the guy lived with two wanted sex offenders, met the description, and refused to ID himself.  Keep linking stuff that reveals that youre an idiot.

oh brother.

DHS lied about the "sex offenders" and the ID.  There are no sex offenders registered at that address.  DHS lies about EVERYTHING!  And you fall for it.  Useful Idiot.

Thao, who has been a US citizen for decades, said that as he was being detained he asked his daughter-in-law to find his identification but the agents told him they didn’t want to see it.

Thao told the AP that only he, his son and daughter-in-law and his grandson live at the rental home. Neither they nor the property’s owner are listed in the Minnesota sex offender registry. The nearest sex offender listed as living in the zip code is more than two blocks away.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/20/citizen-ice-minnesota-thao