Magic the Gathering

[SUXBNME 1,335]

Do any of you tards that played have any of your old cards still?

 

I'm going through my "good ones" that I didn't sell 7 years ago and finding two things...

 

1: I'm stupid for selling 7 years ago

2: Some of the damn cards I still have are worth some decent scratch

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MTG-MAGICTHE-GATHERING-BETA-BLACK-LOTUS-BGS-10-THE-HIGHEST-GRADED-/310327005845?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4840ee5295&_uhb=1

 

[frank 2,145]

I played casually for a few years around 20 years ago. Only ever played against my gf and one friend I got into it. Still have ever card I ever bought. Doubt any are worth more than a few dollars. I have a few hundred cards maybe. I haven't looked at them in years. I played several of the computer games.

[tanatastic 2,061]

This subject comes up every so often. Then we have to hear the same story from WhiteWonder how 20 years ago he sold a revised edition Shivan Dragon for $100 to some nerd who ran a card club at the ymca. Thing is, I'm an expert on MtG economics from that time and it was never worth more than 5-10 bucks, I had plenty of them, yes, that edition.

 

It isn't even a competetive card in pro decks, hence not in demand, hence little value. I can buy them right now, that version, this many years later for about a buck online. No neckbeard would have paid 100 for it, zero chance, especially if he was a nerd, knowledgeable about the cards. If he was not knowledgeable there's even less than zero chance cuz he wouldn't part with that much money for something he wasnt sure about. That's like you selling your Ford Escort for 70k to someone because "they weren't that knowledgeable about car prices.". Nah. Then he will say "say what you want but it happened, I don't care if you don't believe me."

 

So hopefully I just saved us some time.

 

Anyway, anyone with old cards. The value ones from the heavily circulated "Revised" set are the dual lands.

[MDC 5,891]

I worked at a comics and collectables store in the Garden State Plaza one summer when Magic just hit. These dorks who worked at Macys would come in and seriously drop what must have been everything they earned on cards once per week. And they were like 30 at the time.

[fandandy 3,311]

More like Dork the Gathering.

[SUXBNME 1,335]

I played casually for a few years around 20 years ago. Only ever played against my gf and one friend I got into it. Still have ever card I ever bought. Doubt any are worth more than a few dollars. I have a few hundred cards maybe. I haven't looked at them in years. I played several of the computer games.

Uhh...You might want to take a look at some of your cards. Unless you got into it during Fallen Empires or later.

[SUXBNME 1,335]

More like Dork the Gathering.

It was fun

[tanatastic 2,061]

Also that lotus in sux pic is from the beta set, which was short supply and hence rare. Revised, the widely circulated set most people played, was the major release a bit later and didn't have that card. But by the time revised hit shelves, the alpha and beta packs were already super rare and valuable, selling for super high prices even then at card shops. Lotus then was worth hundreds, and now thousands.

[fandandy 3,311]

It was fun

I'm just teasing. I prolly would of liked it too.

[tanatastic 2,061]

It was fun

It's still a thriving game, complete with a pro tour across many different cities. Also online games similar to it are some of the most popular games, like Hearthstone which is a money printing machine for Blizzard.

[frank 2,145]

Uhh...You might want to take a look at some of your cards. Unless you got into it during Fallen Empires or later.

I don't remember when I started, probably 4th edition, but I don't know one set from another anymore. It was before ice age. I remember back then it seemed the early days of valuable cards were over.

[Hardcore troubadour 12,646]

I worked at a comics and collectables store in the Garden State Plaza one summer when Magic just hit. These dorks who worked at Macys would come in and seriously drop what must have been everything they earned on cards once per week. And they were like 30 at the time.

Did you work at The Androids comic and baseball card shop? In Springfield?

[WhiteWonder 2,172]

This subject comes up every so often. Then we have to hear the same story from WhiteWonder how 20 years ago he sold a revised edition Shivan Dragon for $100 to some nerd who ran a card club at the ymca. Thing is, I'm an expert on MtG economics from that time and it was never worth more than 5-10 bucks, I had plenty of them, yes, that edition.

It isn't even a competetive card in pro decks, hence not in demand, hence little value. I can buy them right now, that version, this many years later for about a buck online. No neckbeard would have paid 100 for it, zero chance, especially if he was a nerd, knowledgeable about the cards. If he was not knowledgeable there's even less than zero chance cuz he wouldn't part with that much money for something he wasnt sure about. That's like you selling your Ford Escort for 70k to someone because "they weren't that knowledgeable about car prices.". Nah. Then he will say "say what you want but it happened, I don't care if you don't believe me."

So hopefully I just saved us some time.

Anyway, anyone with old cards. The value ones from the heavily circulated "Revised" set are the dual lands.

Yet you couldn't spare us your insufferable droning

 

Why are you so upset about a simple story I have relating to the topic? Not really my fault if you don't like what someone else paid for it. If I was RP I'd say I was taking up some rent free space in your noggin based on that rant

 

Also, for an expert in any kind of economics you're forgetting that not everything appreciates over time and some things are worth more then than they are now. I'm sure it's worthless now as it's not a rare alpha or beta or whatever and not played as you said. Also forgetting that an item is worth whatever someone pays for it

[MTSkiBum 1,594]

Yet you couldn't spare us your insufferable droning

 

Why are you so upset about a simple story I have relating to the topic? Not really my fault if you don't like what someone else paid for it. If I was RP I'd say I was taking up some rent free space in your noggin based on that rant

 

Also, for an expert in any kind of economics you're forgetting that not everything appreciates over time and some things are worth more then than they are now. I'm sure it's worthless now as it's not a rare alpha or beta or whatever and not played as you said. Also forgetting that an item is worth whatever someone pays for it

 

 

When I played Morphling was the best creature available, and sold between 15-20 bucks, now they are 3-5 dollars.

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Morphling-NM-MTG-Urzas-Saga-Magic-/331886036807

[tanatastic 2,061]

Yet you couldn't spare us your insufferable droning

Why are you so upset about a simple story I have relating to the topic? Not really my fault if you don't like what someone else paid for it. If I was RP I'd say I was taking up some rent free space in your noggin based on that rant

Also, for an expert in any kind of economics you're forgetting that not everything appreciates over time and some things are worth more then than they are now. I'm sure it's worthless now as it's not a rare alpha or beta or whatever and not played as you said. Also forgetting that an item is worth whatever someone pays for it

I clearly said in my post that I was talking about the value of the card at the time of the sale and am well aware of what it was worth at the time. I only added its current value as an addendum, it's not relevant to my case. I traded, bought and had many revised shivan Dragons at that time. It simply didn't happen, I'm sorry. It's like selling a snickers bar to someone for 50 bucks when they could just get it for 1 at any store. Sure it could happen, but it wouldn't.

 

Shivan dragon was simply never worth anything remotely close to 100, not in demand, not sought after and no nerd would ever fork over even 50 for it, let alone 100. You are simply wrong or lying. You thought you could tell a cool story that no one could fact check but were wrong, and I owned you.

[MDC 5,891]

Did you work at The Androids comic and baseball card shop? In Springfield?

Nope. Did Lieutenant Harris send you and Blankes down to the Blue Oyster to crack down on Mahoney and those darn cadets?

[Hardcore troubadour 12,646]

Nope. Did Lieutenant Harris send you and Blankes down to the Blue Oyster to crack down on Mahoney and those darn cadets?

Mine was better. Yours is old and tired.

[SUXBNME 1,335]

Also that lotus in sux pic is from the beta set, which was short supply and hence rare. Revised, the widely circulated set most people played, was the major release a bit later and didn't have that card. But by the time revised hit shelves, the alpha and beta packs were already super rare and valuable, selling for super high prices even then at card shops. Lotus then was worth hundreds, and now thousands.

I started playing when Revised came out. No Black Lotus in Revised, but I could have bought then for $60.00-125.00 back then.

$60 being a played Unlimited Black Lotus and $125.00 being a decent quality Beta.

 

One thing I did do smart was buy the full set of dual lands from a playing buddy at the time. 4X of each for $75.00

 

I sold most of the duals for an average of $50.00 per 7 years ago or so.

[SUXBNME 1,335]

I don't remember when I started, probably 4th edition, but I don't know one set from another anymore. It was before ice age. I remember back then it seemed the early days of valuable cards were over.

Yea, not too much collectabitity in 4th edition.

[MDC 5,891]

Mine was better. Yours is old and tired.

Since I was like 20 at the time your comic book guy reference was pretty weak, just like your NYPD / Marine story and your alias, Columbo.

 

Also, RMFF!

[tanatastic 2,061]

I started playing when Revised came out. No Black Lotus in Revised, but I could have bought then for $60.00-125.00 back then.

$60 being a played Unlimited Black Lotus and $125.00 being a decent quality Beta.

 

One thing I did do smart was buy the full set of dual lands from a playing buddy at the time. 4X of each for $75.00

 

I sold most of the duals for an average of $50.00 per 7 years ago or so.

 

Nice haul. I remember thinking it was outrageous to buy a lotus for 100 at the card shop, not knowing it would be worth thousands years later. My dumb ass would have prob played with it anyway thinking a sleeve would preserve the value.

[Hardcore troubadour 12,646]

Since I was like 20 at the time your comic book guy reference was pretty weak, just like your NYPD / Marine story and your alias, Columbo.

 

Also, RMFF!

Nerve struck. Nice.

[Hardcore troubadour 12,646]

I worked at a comics and collectables store in the Garden State Plaza one summer when Magic just hit. These dorks who worked at Macys would come in and seriously drop what must have been everything they earned on cards once per week. And they were like 30 at the time.

So, the guy who worked at the comic book store was calling the customers dorks? Sounds about right.

[MDC 5,891]

Nerve struck. Nice.

The nerve was struck when I exposed you as RP, Columbo.

 

Go argue with "Slo Nuff."

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

I clearly said in my post that I was talking about the value of the card at the time of the sale and am well aware of what it was worth at the time. I only added its current value as an addendum, it's not relevant to my case. I traded, bought and had many revised shivan Dragons at that time. It simply didn't happen, I'm sorry. It's like selling a snickers bar to someone for 50 bucks when they could just get it for 1 at any store. Sure it could happen, but it wouldn't.

 

Shivan dragon was simply never worth anything remotely close to 100, not in demand, not sought after and no nerd would ever fork over even 50 for it, let alone 100. You are simply wrong or lying. You thought you could tell a cool story that no one could fact check but were wrong, and I owned you.

My buddy bought several shivan Dragons at like $50 apiece from the local c&c shop.

 

Now this was twenty years ago, and pre Internet, for us anyway, so you had to find one before you could worry about what it was worth.

[vuduchile 1,941]

So this is why it's called the geek club.

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

So this is why it's called the geek club.

I'm about the biggest geek there is.

 

Used to play MTG in the high school cafeteria.

 

Was in marching band and chess club.

 

Played D&D. Collected fantasy pewter figurines.

 

Took Latin and was in Latin club.

 

No wonder my parents never bothered to have "the talk" with me. They knew I had birth control handled.

[tanatastic 2,061]

My buddy bought several shivan Dragons at like $50 apiece from the local c&c shop.

Now this was twenty years ago, and pre Internet, for us anyway, so you had to find one before you could worry about what it was worth.

Yea it was tough but there was a well established market and resources for card values. Scrye magazine was the publication that usually set the tone and the market obviously did the rest. Local hobby stores sold and bought card singles as soon as the hobby took off. That's why it was jarring to see that as soon as revised dropped, the alpha, beta and unlimited sets were grossly expensive despite being largely the same cards besides the power 9 (set of cards that got discontinued for being too strong.).

[MTSkiBum 1,594]

Mine was better. Yours is old and tired.

 

Someone has some "illusions of grandeur".

[MTSkiBum 1,594]

Nice haul. I remember thinking it was outrageous to buy a lotus for 100 at the card shop, not knowing it would be worth thousands years later. My dumb ass would have prob played with it anyway thinking a sleeve would preserve the value.

 

While others just have "Delusions of Mediocrity".

[Hardcore troubadour 12,646]

 

Someone has some "illusions of grandeur".

Got any predictions on the price of oil? And it's delusions, not illusions, smart guy. Lol.

[MTSkiBum 1,594]

Got any predictions on the price of oil?

 

No, but I can tell when someone didnt use google to get a joke

 

 

You just cannot let that die, good for you.

[MTSkiBum 1,594]

Also, I was that ###### that played Illusions/Donate in extended tournaments..

 

Play Illusions of grandeur to gain 20 life.

http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=illusions+of+grandeur

 

Then, donate the enchantment to your opponent.

http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=DONATE

 

So, then when they cant pay the upkeep they lose the 20 life and lose the game. Back this up with force of wills, counterspells, misdirections, and if you want to speed it up play with some high tide's and some search.

[tanatastic 2,061]

Also, I was that ###### that played Illusions/Donate in extended tournaments..

 

Play Illusions of grandeur to gain 20 life.

http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=illusions+of+grandeur

 

Then, donate the enchantment to your opponent.

http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=DONATE

 

So, then when they cant pay the upkeep they lose the 20 life and lose the game. Back this up with force of wills, counterspells, misdirections, and if you want to speed it up play with some high tide's and some search.

Color me impressed. I remember you said you played a ton some time ago. Bravo.

Illusions-donate, you dirty POS.

[WhiteWonder 2,172]

I clearly said in my post that I was talking about the value of the card at the time of the sale and am well aware of what it was worth at the time. I only added its current value as an addendum, it's not relevant to my case. I traded, bought and had many revised shivan Dragons at that time. It simply didn't happen, I'm sorry. It's like selling a snickers bar to someone for 50 bucks when they could just get it for 1 at any store. Sure it could happen, but it wouldn't.

Shivan dragon was simply never worth anything remotely close to 100, not in demand, not sought after and no nerd would ever fork over even 50 for it, let alone 100. You are simply wrong or lying. You thought you could tell a cool story that no one could fact check but were wrong, and I owned you.

Anything involving Magic the gathering is not something I need to or would want to make up a story about

 

Whatever you need to tell yourself though.

 

 

Btw, there is no possible way to fact check what a random guy in New Jersey offered to pay for a magic the gathering card 20 years ago. You can't call your supposed knowledge of nerdy card game prices factual evidence that the same items never sold for more or less. Would be like me saying no one ever paid 1000 dollars for a limited edition Scotty Cameron club Cameron head cover. Hth

[MTSkiBum 1,594]

Color me impressed. I remember you said you played a ton some time ago. Bravo.

Illusions-donate, you dirty POS.

 

I played alot of mtg for a decade, and I was not a casual player.

 

I traveled to MTG tournaments in salt lake 2-3 times a year for PTQ's and regionals because the entire group of people that would travel from Montana to these tournaments were all big skiers/snowboarders. We would also ski when going to salt lake.

 

I also traveled to Sacramento, Portland, and Seattle for Grand Prix's.

 

 

I am the king of the nerds

[tanatastic 2,061]

Anything involving Magic the gathering is not something I need to or would want to make up a story about

Whatever you need to tell yourself though.

Btw, there is no possible way to fact check what a random guy in New Jersey offered to pay for a magic the gathering card 20 years ago. You can't call your supposed knowledge of nerdy card game prices factual evidence that the same items never sold for more or less. Would be like me saying no one ever paid 1000 dollars for a limited edition Scotty Cameron club Cameron head cover. Hth

Thats fine. I know you didn't get 100 for a revised Shivan and MtSkibum knows you didn't get 100 for it either. But I can't say what some dude did or didn't do so you are right. That's not sarcastic, I am really admitting that I have no right to say what happened or didn't happen.

 

Similar story, I sold my 1989 Toyota Corolla with 180k miles on it for $80k to a car dealer one time. Don't believe me? Who are you to tell me what a guy paid? Just because everyone in the car business knows it's not worth that much or even close, you can't prove he didn't pay me that much. A guy who professionally buys and sells cars, paid me far more than it was worth, go figure. Must have just been my lucky day.

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

Thats fine. I know you didn't get 100 for a revised Shivan and MtSkibum knows you didn't get 100 for it either. But I can't say what some dude did or didn't do so you are right. That's not sarcastic, I am really admitting that I have no right to say what happened or didn't happen.

 

Similar story, I sold my 1989 Toyota Corolla with 180k miles on it for $80k to a car dealer one time. Don't believe me? Who are you to tell me what a guy paid? Just because everyone in the car business knows it's not worth that much or even close, you can't prove he didn't pay me that much. A guy who professionally buys and sells cars, paid me far more than it was worth, go figure. Must have just been my lucky day.

 

 

Hey, you never know man. You catch that one dumbass at the right place and right time. Maybe he had money, and didn't give a fock. Or didn't want to wait in the mail. I've seen bigger fleecings.

 

Hell, I once sold a several sticks of Old Spice deodorant for $33 apiece. Just because they were to lazy to order it from America themselves.

[Cloaca du jour 2,064]

You can find the original micro prose game updated for modern pcs and play all your revised stuff . It's freeware . I quit playing when ice age came out

[SUXBNME 1,335]

Nice haul. I remember thinking it was outrageous to buy a lotus for 100 at the card shop, not knowing it would be worth thousands years later. My dumb ass would have prob played with it anyway thinking a sleeve would preserve the value.

Yea...had to make ends meet back then. (unemployed and stuff)

As far as the Lotus was concerned, a girl from our regular Saturday night group bought it and was smart enough to use a proxy card in place of it, but we all laughed at her all the same for spending $125.00 on a single card back then.

 

Little did we know