Jamaal Williams for Fitzgerald? WRs lacking on 11th pick team..

[wezvidz 2]

Got to keep Jamaal Williams as a late round keeper.

 

Have an owner with no RB2 who will give me Fitzgerald for Williams.

 

I didn't draft as well as I'd have liked, with no real WR1.. went RB RB round 1/2 and at turn 3/4 went D.Thomas and Rodgers (way too early I know for a QB) instead of WR/WR because most of my WR targets were gone.

 

1/2 ppr QB, 2RB, 2WR, WR/TE flex, WR/TE/RB flex

 

I have:

A.Rodgers

 

Melvin Gordon

Kareem Hunt

Jamaal Williams

Tarik Cohen

Matt Breida

Spencer Ware

 

Demaryious Thomas

Jamison Crowder

Keelan Cole

Maquise Goodwin

Jordy Nelson

Randall Cobb

 

After reading lately both Doug's prediction Williams could be top 15 RB on a team that likes a workhorse back, and McCarthy saying it could be a big year for Williams, I hate to lose a solid #3 guy who I could flex and fill byes... but...

 

Is that patchwork group of WRs enough to get by? Need someone like Fitz to have a more stable floor. Trade should be processed tonight but curious what you all think.

[jrokh 569]

I would've done it, Fitz is now your best WR, so good move.

[jimaveli 119]

It is a good move. Larry is good until further notice. Williams might end up as the starter. That is true. Or there could be shenanigans when Jones is available again. And even if not, Ty Montgomery is there to muddy the waters further.

[seafoam1 1,879]

Larry all day.

[weepaws 2,460]

I would do it.

 

Personally think that when A Jones returns j Wiilams will be pushed back to the ppr rb role mostly.

 

I think Jones is the Packers back to own.

 

Yes I would do it for Fitz.

[The Football Guru 212]

Got to keep Jamaal Williams as a late round keeper.

 

Have an owner with no RB2 who will give me Fitzgerald for Williams.

 

I didn't draft as well as I'd have liked, with no real WR1.. went RB RB round 1/2 and at turn 3/4 went D.Thomas and Rodgers (way too early I know for a QB) instead of WR/WR because most of my WR targets were gone.

 

1/2 ppr QB, 2RB, 2WR, WR/TE flex, WR/TE/RB flex

 

I have:

A.Rodgers

 

Melvin Gordon

Kareem Hunt

Jamaal Williams

Tarik Cohen

Matt Breida

Spencer Ware

 

Demaryious Thomas

Jamison Crowder

Keelan Cole

Maquise Goodwin

Jordy Nelson

Randall Cobb

 

After reading lately both Doug's prediction Williams could be top 15 RB on a team that likes a workhorse back, and McCarthy saying it could be a big year for Williams, I hate to lose a solid #3 guy who I could flex and fill byes... but...

 

Is that patchwork group of WRs enough to get by? Need someone like Fitz to have a more stable floor. Trade should be processed tonight but curious what you all think.

 

1) Please, please, please do not use my Bold Predictions piece to make roster decisions.

 

2) Who will you use more often? Fitz or Williams?

 

3) Fitz has about as high of a floor as any player outside the first round has. Put another way: how often do you hear an owner say, "I wish I would have traded Fitz, he sunk my team."

 

4) Starting-caliber (or flex-type, in this case) running backs are much easier to find throughout the course of the season than 90-100 catch receviers.

 

Make the move.

[aggiewildlife 0]

I'd be all over that trade. And I'm a fan of Jamaal Williams as a solid late-round pick, but trading a late round pick for a 3rd round pick is a solid move every day of the week. There's no need to overthink it.

[jgcrawfish 232]

I'm with the masses, I think Larry has the higher floor and ceiling.

[justforbeer 39]

Sorry, but no way I do that trade.

 

You have three good wide receivers currently.

 

Cole, goodwin, DT.

 

If one of your top two running backs gets hurt, youre gonna have a hole in your roster.

 

I am really down on Fitzgerald, I dont think hes going to do That well.....just a hunch. He also just turned 35.

 

Statistically I would see him end up with about 800 yards and four touchdowns.

Last year he had 1100 yards and six touchdowns.

[Canadianfan 76]

Aaron jones is the most talented running back on that team. I watched every Green Bay snap last year. He's a threat to take it to the house any time . He'll be starting in 3-4 weeks.

[The Football Guru 212]

Aaron jones is the most talented running back on that team. I watched every Green Bay snap last year. He's a threat to take it to the house any time . He'll be starting in 3-4 weeks.

 

I agree with the first part. Unfortunately, he has shown little durability, doesn't catch the ball particularly well yet and isn't trusted to do the one thing more important than anything in Green Bay: protect Rodgers.

[tanatastic 2,061]

Why would someone trade their likely 4-5th rounder for a guy going later? Do people not understand the basics of draft value? Like basic level math here. If I wanted Jamaal instead of Fitz in the 4th, Id have drafted Jamaal. Keeper is different I know, but same principles at work.

 

Also Jones will be the starter there by mid season and was clearly the best guy last season.

[The Football Guru 212]

Also Jones will be the starter there by mid season and was clearly the best guy last season.

 

Let's completely disregard the fact McCarthy has thrown his confidence behind Williams for a second.

 

Is Jones a more talented and more gifted runner? Yes. I don't think many people would disagree with that.

 

Clearly the best guy? Let's see:

 

Jones was featured in three games and averaged 16.1 FPPG in those games. Rodgers played in two of the three games.

 

Williams was featured in eight and averaged 15.7 and Rodgers only played in one of those games. Williams actually had the two biggest fantasy games by a GB back last season.

 

Since the end of last season, Jones has gotten in trouble with the law, hurt and suspended. It's also debatable whether or not he is even an average receiver and he's doesn't block well. He's not earning a lot of trust, in other words.

 

Do I acknowledge there is a chance Jones passes Williams on the depth chart at some point this season? Sure I do. He's a gifted and explosive runner. That's why doing the trade for Fitz is smart.

 

My humble opinion: when Jones has proven he is the more complete running back, he'll become the man.

[Canadianfan 76]

Let's completely disregard the fact McCarthy has thrown his confidence behind Williams for a second.

 

Is Jones a more talented and more gifted runner? Yes. I don't think many people would disagree with that.

 

Clearly the best guy? Let's see:

 

Jones was featured in three games and averaged 16.1 FPPG in those games. Rodgers played in two of the three games.

 

Williams was featured in eight and averaged 15.7 and Rodgers only played in one of those games. Williams actually had the two biggest fantasy games by a GB back last season.

 

Since the end of last season, Jones has gotten in trouble with the law, hurt and suspended. It's also debatable whether or not he is even an average receiver and he's doesn't block well. He's not earning a lot of trust, in other words.

 

Do I acknowledge there is a chance Jones passes Williams on the depth chart at some point this season? Sure I do. He's a gifted and explosive runner. That's why doing the trade for Fitz is smart.

 

My humble opinion: when Jones has proven he is the more complete running back, he'll become the man.

 

 

Well written post....however last year was last year, pass blocking has improved already. Jones will start at one point .

[weepaws 2,460]

When Jones returns he will be the rb1.

 

If you own J Williams I’ll be praying for early success, his value would go up and then trade him.

 

Thanks.

[The Football Guru 212]

Well written post....however last year was last year, pass blocking has improved already. Jones will start at one point .

 

Thanks. Where's the proof on the pass-blocking improvement? I don't deny Jones will probably start at one point or another, but I'm getting the sense it will be due to injury.

 

 

When Jones returns he will be the rb1.

 

If you own J Williams I’ll be praying for early success, his value would go up and then trade him.

 

Thanks.

 

Why speak in absolutes? If Jones was such a slam-dunk to start upon his return, wouldn't he be going around the same time Mark Ingram is?

 

Just out of curiosity, what happens if Williams goes for 100 total yards and a touchdown this week in a game GB is favored to win and Chicago has two key defensive guys (Roquan Smith and Mack) still learning the system? Still think the job is just going to get handed over? Jones' truthers better hope JW falls flat on his face in each of the first two games, because if Williams does well in either one, he's probably going to get a heavy workload against WAS-BUF-DET-SF leading up to the bye.

[jrokh 569]

J-Will is listed as a top 15 back this week in some places, gonna roll him over Carlos Hyde in the Flex, hope it pays, thanks for the recommendation guru!

[weepaws 2,460]

I think that A Jones is a better player.

 

I think that will show up once he returns.

 

I think teams like going with the better players, will sometimes. Lol

 

I dont think he steps right in the next game and gets 20 plus toughes.

 

But I think his value to the Packers will show, and he surpass J Willams pretty quickly.

 

And thats what I think will happen, and I expect it to.

 

Williams can diffently earn more playing time once Jones returns, but I see a RBBC if Williams shows that kind of stats.

 

But if he doesnt? Mmmm now what.

 

If Barkley is such a slam dunk to be a stud rb, why isnt he getting draft as high as Gurley.

 

Ingram as a history in the nfl, Jones not so much. Doesnt mean he wont surpass Williams on his return though. Makes him a better value when drafting imo. And whos been saying that Jones will post Ingram type numbers. I dont. Doesnt mean he wont be the Packers rb1.

 

Mmm.

 

Thanks.

[tanatastic 2,061]

Agree with all Weep/Rain Man said. Jones will be the guy by mid season. Hes not getting draft love because small sample size last year, not an Ingram type season and hes not the official guy there yet, its speculative. If Jamaal plays well it will muddy the waters for sure and they will split.

[Maulers1973 117]

I wouldn't. You got pretty good WR's and after Williams you have rubish and can't even cover a buy week. I think J Will nails down the job and remains the feature back. Plus, Jones will get hurt. Yep, we can count on death, taxes and A Jones getting hurt! lol

[Frozenbeernuts 1,652]

Agree with all Wiff/Rain Man said. Jones will be the guy by mid season. Hes not getting draft love because small sample size last year, not an Ingram type season and hes not the official guy there yet, its speculative. If Jamaal plays well it will muddy the waters for sure and they will split.

You think weepaws is Wiff? I think that's giving Wiff too much credit on his football knowledge

[tanatastic 2,061]

You think weepaws is Wiff? I think that's giving Wiff too much credit on his football knowledge

Oh damn, total mistake. Nah they arent the same, I just goofed. Yea thats an insult to weep, my bad.