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#41 tanatastic

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Posted 28 August 2018 - 04:15 PM

250 carries seem avg in a norv turner offense.


Yes if we talking a bellcow who isnt splitting with a newly aquired early down rb. I shouldnt need to say this. Its getting out of control now, like Ebola or something.

#42 Skinny_Bastard

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Posted 28 August 2018 - 04:33 PM

Rivera said he'll get 25-30 touches a game.

Norv confirmed it.

 

Just relaying the message.


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Posted 28 August 2018 - 04:35 PM

Rivera said he'll get 25-30 touches a game.
Norv confirmed it.
 
Just relaying the message.

Guess case closed then, coach said it, that’s a wrap. I guess we will find out.

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Posted 29 August 2018 - 08:14 AM

Yes if we talking a bellcow who isnt splitting with a newly aquired early down rb. I shouldnt need to say this. Its getting out of control now, like Ebola or something.

CMC isn't splitting 


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QB (1) Cousins, J Winston

RB (2) M Gordon, McCaffery, A Collins, C Carson

WR (2) Fitz, D Baldwin, E Sanders, J Brown

TE (1) J Reed, Kittle

FLEX(1)

DST (1) MIN

K (1) Bryant


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Posted 29 August 2018 - 08:20 AM

Rivera said he'll get 25-30 touches a game.

Norv confirmed it.

 

Just relaying the message.

I would find it hard to think he gets 30, but 7-8 catches and 15 or so rushes, I could see that for sure. 



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Posted 29 August 2018 - 10:41 AM

Guess case closed then, coach said it, that’s a wrap. I guess we will find out.

They've backed it up in pre-season.  I think out of the gate, that will be the plan for McCaffery to get 25 touches per game.  I think it's a bad plan as the o-line is suspect and its going to kill a lot of drives if they insist on using him in that manner because he doesn't move the pile.  I'm curious how it all shakes out as I'm dubious myself about how efficient he'll be with that workload, but it does appear that's the path they are starting down.



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Posted 29 August 2018 - 11:30 AM

CMC isn't splitting 

We will see. Man, this preseason really got in your guys heads.

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Posted 29 August 2018 - 11:32 AM

They've backed it up in pre-season.


Guess case closed then, happened in preseason thats a wrap. I guess we will find out.

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Posted 29 August 2018 - 11:53 AM

I'm buying CMC and i think he's going to have a fantastic year and crack into the top 10 this season.

If preseason is any indication, prepare for the CMC show.


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Posted 29 August 2018 - 06:24 PM

Keep an eye on the off line early on... Lotta hurt and recovering players in that group
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Posted 29 August 2018 - 08:44 PM

Keep an eye on the off line early on... Lotta hurt and recovering players in that group


I'm trying to figure if that's good or bad for CMC. They know their line isnt up to par, so do they run a lot of screens, quick passes, sweeps and options?

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Posted 29 August 2018 - 09:20 PM

I will say this.  I just completed 12 team ppr league draft a bit ago.  Drafting out of the 7 spot and went Gordon in the 1st.  McCaffrey went one freakin spot before me in the 2nd and I wanted to jump out of the window.  I had McCaffrey queued up immediately after I picked Gordon.  Had I started with those two I would have been COMPLETELY satisfied.  Not gonna lie, that one hurt.  Same fvcker sniped Zach Ertz from me in the 5th.  



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Posted 29 August 2018 - 10:04 PM

I will say this.  I just completed 12 team ppr league draft a bit ago.  Drafting out of the 7 spot and went Gordon in the 1st.  McCaffrey went one freakin spot before me in the 2nd and I wanted to jump out of the window.  I had McCaffrey queued up immediately after I picked Gordon.  Had I started with those two I would have been COMPLETELY satisfied.  Not gonna lie, that one hurt.  Same fvcker sniped Zach Ertz from me in the 5th.  

 

 

Well who did you end up with then?



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Posted 29 August 2018 - 10:07 PM

 

 

Well who did you end up with then?

Since this is a McCaffery thread, my guess is, not McCaffery.



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Posted 30 August 2018 - 02:01 AM

I’m confused, Stephen Davis is now RB3 in Carolina?
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Posted 30 August 2018 - 09:01 AM

I’m confused, Stephen Davis is now RB3 in Carolina?

Even so, you have to put him in your line-up every week...NEVAH BENCH STEPHEN DAVIS!!!  :mad: 



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Posted 10 October 2018 - 09:12 AM

We will see. Man, this preseason really got in your guys heads.

preseason is useful. CMC


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QB (1) Cousins, J Winston

RB (2) M Gordon, McCaffery, A Collins, C Carson

WR (2) Fitz, D Baldwin, E Sanders, J Brown

TE (1) J Reed, Kittle

FLEX(1)

DST (1) MIN

K (1) Bryant


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Posted 10 October 2018 - 10:27 AM

preseason is useful. CMC

 

Indeed.   :pointstosky:



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Posted 10 October 2018 - 12:24 PM

He's outproduced...

 

Dalvin Cooks

Jordan Howard

Joe Mixon

Devonte Freeman

L. Fournette

L. Bell

David Johnson

 

 

I'll say anyone that drafted him dodged a bullet for now.  


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Posted 10 October 2018 - 01:57 PM

I started this thread as at time was debating if I wanted to go after Mcaff in my auction draft.
 
Even considering my takes here, my own reseaarch and the various comments from others I did draft him as my RB2 as felt that he would indeed be a high end #2 (as I drafted him behind Zeke), with upside for #1, though by draft I had tempered expectations , which was fine.
 
Have to say pleased, well except for him losing GL carries to Panthers GL RB Cam Newton, but I digress...
 
Amongst RBs in my league he is #16, with him already had his bye, while those ahead of him have not. So if you go avg pts per game he is actually #9. 
Discussion in this thread was if he could get to 250-275, possibly low end #1, 275-300, possibly mid level #1.
Well through 4 games he has 90 touches, or 22.5 per game x 16 game season = would be 360 touches
 
Broken down further…
Avg’ing 15.75 carries per game at current 5.2ypc x 16 games = 1310 rush yds
Avg’ing 6.75 recs per game at current 7.1 ypcs x 16 games = 767 rec yds
 
That’s almost 2100 total yds, honestly doubt he gets that, but let’s say thru less touches, lower ypc, etc. he even gets 75% of that by year’s end: that’s 1558 total yds from scrimmage
So say 1500-2100 yds and even with low TD production b/c of Cam, even if he gets 6-8 more, still would be a  good-very good/RB1 type of season.



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Posted 10 October 2018 - 03:03 PM

Drafted him in the second round and got laughed at. Who's laughing now?

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Posted 10 October 2018 - 03:11 PM

Drafted him in the second round and got laughed at. Who's laughing now?


He was a first round pick, early 2nd at most, why would people laugh at you? This post doesnt work. It only works if you took a 3rd rounder or above in the 2nd.

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Posted 10 October 2018 - 03:20 PM

Don't know what to tell you, it happened and I was equally clueless as to why.

#64 tanatastic

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Posted 10 October 2018 - 03:24 PM

Don't know what to tell you, it happened and I was equally clueless as to why.


Ok well, just sayin, The Whos laughing now thing doesnt work here, thats all. It works if you said for example that you took him 7th overall or something like that. Even then, he was getting taken back half of rnd 1 by most peoples drafts.

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Posted 10 October 2018 - 03:52 PM

I was doubtful of the comments that Rivera made in the pre-season regarding CMC's usage, but I targeted him anyway believing in the talent, particularly in PPR.  But lets bear in mind...it's a long season and he's not a "big" back.  I still contend he can't withstand the pounding that this usage will subject him to.  



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Posted 10 October 2018 - 09:25 PM

Big backs also get hurt.

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Posted 11 October 2018 - 09:08 AM

He was a first round pick, early 2nd at most, why would people laugh at you? This post doesnt work. It only works if you took a 3rd rounder or above in the 2nd.

He wasn't a first round pick by most people, especially those who don't believe pre-season matters


12 team, non-ppr, redraft, $ league

QB (1) Cousins, J Winston

RB (2) M Gordon, McCaffery, A Collins, C Carson

WR (2) Fitz, D Baldwin, E Sanders, J Brown

TE (1) J Reed, Kittle

FLEX(1)

DST (1) MIN

K (1) Bryant


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Posted 11 October 2018 - 10:07 AM

He wasn't a first round pick by most people, especially those who don't believe pre-season matters


Yes he was. His adp was rnd 1, early rnd 2. This is not a debate or opinion, its just fact. I know you are trying to do a little GOTCHA thing here with 4 games played, and thats cute, but no one was arguing he wasnt worth a late 1st early 2nd. Didnt need preseason for that and for every 1 call that pans out I can show you 10 that dont because preseason useage is irrelevant. Pick a dif battle.

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Posted 11 October 2018 - 10:40 AM

Yes he was. His adp was rnd 1, early rnd 2. This is not a debate or opinion, its just fact. I know you are trying to do a little GOTCHA thing here with 4 games played, and thats cute, but no one was arguing he wasnt worth a late 1st early 2nd. Didnt need preseason for that and for every 1 call that pans out I can show you 10 that dont because preseason useage is irrelevant. Pick a dif battle.

you were saying CMC would split carries. Pre-season showed us that wasn't happening. Preseason matters.


12 team, non-ppr, redraft, $ league

QB (1) Cousins, J Winston

RB (2) M Gordon, McCaffery, A Collins, C Carson

WR (2) Fitz, D Baldwin, E Sanders, J Brown

TE (1) J Reed, Kittle

FLEX(1)

DST (1) MIN

K (1) Bryant


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Posted 11 October 2018 - 10:45 AM

you were saying CMC would split carries. Pre-season showed us that wasn't happening. Preseason matters.


Yes, so far he has been great, kudos to coach for tipping his hand and letting defenses know their gameplan. Again, not the norm, it’s the exception.

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Posted 11 October 2018 - 10:47 AM

Yes, so far he has been great, kudos to coach for tipping his hand and letting defenses know their gameplan. Again, not the norm, it’s the exception.

just saying preseason can be helpful in a lot of cases


12 team, non-ppr, redraft, $ league

QB (1) Cousins, J Winston

RB (2) M Gordon, McCaffery, A Collins, C Carson

WR (2) Fitz, D Baldwin, E Sanders, J Brown

TE (1) J Reed, Kittle

FLEX(1)

DST (1) MIN

K (1) Bryant