WhiteWonder

although bitcoin and crypto was touted for being decentralized and for its inevitable takeover of fiat currency. Yet governments, fed, wallstreet can manipulate it. It's almost as if bitcoin will ultimately be exactly what they want it to be, and fairly regulated.

I feel like you kind of did though especially based on this last response. Just because I'm not into boxing anymore doesn't mean I don't know what boxers look like. I'm sorry but at least half the opponents in the video Ed told me to reference look like guys you'd see in a tune up fight. Then you explain that many of those are probably his super early fights, which kind of ads legitimacy to my question, at the time, not knowing much about him. So you've educated me that he is a top tier boxer, top 10 HW even currently and I don't believe that I've tried to dispute that. If it seemed like I was, that was not my intention. So I guess Paul has entered the realm of legit boxing. Good for him. Maybe I will start to care now. You are one of maybe a dozen guys who post here who I enjoy talking sports with but sometimes it seems like you get easily irked or like you "have a dog in the fight" so to speak. "google is your friend" is a typical telling response in those situations.

I think you need to, it's not a personal insult for me to not have known who Anthony Joshua is

Did I? I believe I said that I saw publications hinting that Tyson held back or was told to hold back and said I have no idea if that's remotely true... and I then went on to say that even an older fighter, maybe not in Tysons case, could potentially school Jake Paul. I can't name anyone off the top of my head but someone who stays in shape and trains and can fall back on their technical expertise that Paul doesn't really have.

i mean, i literally said not in Tysons case perhaps.

I'm not trashing his opponents... just because I didn't know Anthony Joshua, even though I generally have known the names of top boxers even after I stopped caring, doesn't mean i'm trashing the guy. If my comments = trashing then you must be the president of his fan club or something I get that most of Jake Pauls opponents are doing it for a payday, just as he is. I relate Jake Paul to youtube golfers because that's basically what it is. Good golfers entertaining when in their element but wouldn't actually make it doing the real thing. Not that they need to. My initial reaction of "is he fighting a real fighter" is because if that was the case, I might actually be interested. The same way I would be interested if Grant Horvat was attempting to earn his tour card.

exactly why (not in Tysons case perhaps) I would expect an older real boxer to school someone like Paul in a real fight.

I don't need to be impressed but I guess the point is, I'm only going to care if he's fighting real fighters. As some others who I think follow boxing and MMA have said in here, it's dumb and gimmicky. Again, trying to stress that i would have had no idea Joshua is a current top 10 HW boxer. You've clarified that for me so I guess it gives some merit to this fight.

I mean exactly what I said. They almost all look like jobbers. How am I to know it's all early in his career if that is what is being presented to me by the OP? I was even being a little bit sarcastic (as a general sports fan, when I saw those other boxes in the vid, I assumed it was very early in this guys career if he was a real fighter)

i've always just attributed it to the athleticism these guys use to dominate HS and college and it just usually doesn't translate to the NFL. In HS, they were the best QB, RB, WR, DB on the entire team. In college they could have likely succeeded at another position as well but their dual threat ability made them most valuable as a QB. A few go on to be Lamar Jackson (overrated but very talented), but most don't because the talent/athleticism gap decreases so much at the pro level. Inaccuracy, inability to read defenses, etc really shows.

i just remember a lot of analysis after the fight showing points where it seemed Tyson was holding back and possibly even a point where it looked like Paul was verbally reminding him to chill. Could all be BS and I can understand your take on Paul but there are certain instances where i'd think an actual, polished fighter who is older could take him to school. With that said, and this Joshua guy being 20+ years younger than Tyson, and a top HW of his era, i'd expect him to destroy Paul pretty easily if the fight is not fixed.

relax, You guys have established that Joshua is a legit fighter and not some other celeb fighter or senior citizen as Paul has fought in the past. Even reading Wiki i just don't understand what I am supposed to be impressed by, given the context that he is a real fighter.

wasnt the tyson fight pretty obviously fixed though?

well i mean, it is actually correct because... as you said... jake paul is a youtuber turned boxer who hasn't fought anyone. So if I don't know who Joshua is, then you have to excuse me as its not far fetched for someone not into boxing to think Paul still isn't fighting anyone. also, even though i'm not into boxing (anymore), your prior comment that this dude is perhaps a top 3-4 HW boxer of his era seems nuts to me given what I (admittedly quickly) read and that supposed highlight tape edjr linked. I know boxing fell off, but it fell off that bad? that would be my personal takeaway.

i'm more saying Paul still isn't fighting anyone